Abortion moves to the next sickening phase

[PsyOps]

You're a monster that approves of flushing tampons.

Chew on this for a minute. Let's take all the aborted "parts" and bury them. Next, we can build a large sandbox on top of the gravesite. Start saving up all of your catch rags and used tampons to play with as if they were dolls in the sandbox.

Whadaya think?

LOL. I was a plumber in my early military life so, no I think flushing tampons should be a felony.

I think the rest of your post deserves no further reply than this

 

[PsyOps]

I understand to a point where you are coming from. The problem is this. The "mother" has made the decision to kill her unborn fetus. There is nothing that is going to save that fetus. It's dead. Dead, dead, dead. Not coming back. The mother doesn't care what happens to the fetus at this point because she made the decision to kill it! There is NO dignity in killing a fetus.

Now my point is................... the fetus is DEAD. Not coming back. The mother isn't going to go to a gravesite and mourn the loss of her unborn child because it died for unkown reasons, she killed it. Why NOT use that fetus to possibly help another fetus/newborn/child/baby/adult suffering from disease without a cure. THAT to me seems like a worthy cause. There is nothing undignified with donating conception cells to science.

Hence the reason why I titled this thread the way I did. This is just a deeper spiral into the abyss of complacency towards human life. Just when you didn’t think things could get worse in this world of butchering babies, it gets worse. It's not bad enough that people feel abortion (at every level) should be the default for escaping irresponsible behavior, now we can incinerate it with the rest of the trash; oh, and the added bonus... the people in those facilities get to enjoy the nice comfy heat from those hacked up babies.

"Can someone please have abortion; we need to stoke up that fire, it's getting cold in here."

 

[vraiblonde]

"Can someone please have abortion; we need to stoke up that fire, it's getting cold in here."

Right, except that fetuses as fuel is unsustainable and not nearly abundant enough. I don't think you'll have to worry about Big Abortion just yet.

Serious question: what do you want them to do with aborted fetuses instead of incinerate them?

 

[mitzi]

I have heard of couples who give their stillborn babies funerals, with burial or private cremation, and a memorial service. If it was important to them, they should have asked what exactly happens to their baby when the hospital "takes care of it". Common sense would tell you that it's disposed of like any other human tissue.

They were young, distraught and probably had no money for any type of service. How many people really ponder what happens to the medical "waste". The point I was making is that they probably didn't imagine the body would be tossed in the incinerator with the rest of the hospital garbage. My guess would be they "thought" it was cremated at a funeral home. I also question if it was legal to have even done what they did. It wouldn't be now, they have to contract with a crematory or shipped out of state to one. Depends on the different laws.

 

[PsyOps]

Right, except that fetuses as fuel is unsustainable and not nearly abundant enough. I don't think you'll have to worry about Big Abortion just yet.

Serious question: what do you want them to do with aborted fetuses instead of incinerate them?

Because we view life radically different, I have no expectation that this will be well-received at all... I think we need to change our views on life first of all. Any human that dies, regardless of the circumstances, should be handled with a certain level of respect and honor. Whether it's cremation or burial, it should be done in a way that gives the proper honor a human deserves; especially those I consider to be the most innocent among us. My mom and dad's wishes were that they be cremated and their ashes spread on a certain part of the campus of the college they met. I know folks will view cremation as incinerating the body; but these are the wishes of my parents. We have gotten permission from the college to do this. Why can't we at least do this for those who can't speak for themselves?

If the fetus is cremated, the ashes should be spread or buried in a place of honor. If they are buried, they should be buried in proper burial grounds. In my mind they are still human, they were people, no less than you and I simply because their flesh and blood appears to be in a different form and they have no voice. Religion aside; it's the human and decent thing to do. There is nothing decent or honorable about incinerating these babies with the common trash in order to provide heat.

Crazy scenario... If you found an aborted or miscarried fetus on the street, say only a couple of inches in size; you could clearly see it was human, would you simply put it in a bag and throw in the dumpster. Would you throw some lighter fluid on it and burn it right there? Would you take it into the woods and dig a hole and bury it? Or would you call authorities and do what you can to make sure it was properly handled dealt with? Or would you just keep walking and just consider it just another annoying piece of trash on the ground?

 

[PsyOps]

Right, except that fetuses as fuel is unsustainable and not nearly abundant enough. I don't think you'll have to worry about Big Abortion just yet.

Serious question: what do you want them to do with aborted fetuses instead of incinerate them?

"Yet"! Certainly it's coming. Looking at the trend over the past few decades, it's coming. Looking at how life is increasingly being view as cheap, to be first ripped in to bloody shreds, at any point in the pregnancy, then incinerated with ordinary trash... we're not too far away.

 

[Hijinx]

"Yet"! Certainly it's coming. Looking at the trend over the past few decades, it's coming. Looking at how life is increasingly being view as cheap, to be first ripped in to bloody shreds, at any point in the pregnancy, then incinerated with ordinary trash... we're not too far away.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...ing-children-harvest-organs-article-1.1725522

Nuff said.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Because we view life radically different, I have no expectation that this will be well-received at all... I think we need to change our views on life first of all. Any human that dies, regardless of the circumstances, should be handled with a certain level of respect and honor. Whether it's cremation or burial, it should be done in a way that gives the proper honor a human deserves; especially those I consider to be the most innocent among us. My mom and dad's wishes were that they be cremated and their ashes spread on a certain part of the campus of the college they met. I know folks will view cremation as incinerating the body; but these are the wishes of my parents. We have gotten permission from the college to do this. Why can't we at least do this for those who can't speak for themselves?

If the fetus is cremated, the ashes should be spread or buried in a place of honor. If they are buried, they should be buried in proper burial grounds. In my mind they are still human, they were people, no less than you and I simply because their flesh and blood appears to be in a different form and they have no voice. Religion aside; it's the human and decent thing to do. There is nothing decent or honorable about incinerating these babies with the common trash in order to provide heat.

Crazy scenario... If you found an aborted or miscarried fetus on the street, say only a couple of inches in size; you could clearly see it was human, would you simply put it in a bag and throw in the dumpster. Would you throw some lighter fluid on it and burn it right there? Would you take it into the woods and dig a hole and bury it? Or would you call authorities and do what you can to make sure it was properly handled dealt with? Or would you just keep walking and just consider it just another annoying piece of trash on the ground?

Should a murdered on death row's death be "handled with a certain level of respect and honor"?

I just don't agree with you on this. I think people spend too much time analyzing other's lives as it is. Some people may feel the need to do what you describe, and some people may not.

We don't know if they are offering a cremation service for parents, or simply burning them all. Some parents may want to view the fetus as a complete child, and some may want to get past it (like miscarriages).

 

[Hijinx]

Should a murdered on death row's death be "handled with a certain level of respect and honor"?

I just don't agree with you on this. I think people spend too much time analyzing other's lives as it is. Some people may feel the need to do what you describe, and some people may not.

We don't know if they are offering a cremation service for parents, or simply burning them all. Some parents may want to view the fetus as a complete child, and some may want to get past it (like miscarriages).

Certainly the bodies of death row criminals are handled with a certain amount of respect and honor. They sure don't burn them for heat in the prison furnace.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Certainly the bodies of death row criminals are handled with a certain amount of respect and honor. They sure don't burn them for heat in the prison furnace.

Respect and Honor? Strapping them to a bed and shooting drugs into their veins while a group of people watch them fade away into sleep and a burp? Or is the electric chair more honorable?

This is a lump of flech we're talking about. As bad as it sounds, the fetuses aren;t a human life yet. They can't make their own decisions. The parents can, and if they choose to burn them and forget the rough spot in their lives....why is that an issue?

 

[PsyOps]

Should a murdered on death row's death be "handled with a certain level of respect and honor"?

I just don't agree with you on this. I think people spend too much time analyzing other's lives as it is. Some people may feel the need to do what you describe, and some people may not.

We don't know if they are offering a cremation service for parents, or simply burning them all. Some parents may want to view the fetus as a complete child, and some may want to get past it (like miscarriages).

This is about how we are doing things in society, not about how I think it should be done. I’ve already mentioned in this thread that convicted murderers who get the death penalty are at least afforded proper burial or cremation (probably according to their wishes). They aren’t cast into a heating furnace with the common trash and incinerated.

Personally, I think they should be allowed to ask for how they want their bodies to be handled. I don’t think it accomplishes anything by going that extra mile and doing things to a person’s dead body when the penalty has already been carried out.

The report states that they were doing this without any of the mother’s or family’s knowledge, and the practice has been banned. I suspect there might be criminal charges. Some who had miscarriages were outraged to find out how their baby was handled. I’m not trying to analyze anyone’s life; I’m making a comment on societal decline and how our society regards death; particularly the death of our most innocent. It’s bad enough they are handed a death penalty for the crime of being conceived, they also get the indignity of having their bodies ripped apart into bloody pieces; then they get the added bonus of having their bodies thrown out with common trash and incinerated to provide heat to those who received the gift of life.

 

[PsyOps]

This is a lump of flech we're talking about. As bad as it sounds, the fetuses aren;t a human life yet. They can't make their own decisions. The parents can, and if they choose to burn them and forget the rough spot in their lives....why is that an issue?

There it is... "They can't make their own decisions" They don't have a voice to scream out when their flesh is ripped apart. This makes it so much easier to dismiss butchering a baby as merely a lump of flesh and blood; not a life - a human life. Children at the age of 1 can't make their own decisions; but the parents can. So, do we really want to go there based on that weak standard? The problem with this, according to the report, the parents didn't know this was happening. Apparently the Department of Health didn't know and when they found out, they banned the practice.

 

[b23hqb]

Respect and Honor? Strapping them to a bed and shooting drugs into their veins while a group of people watch them fade away into sleep and a burp? Or is the electric chair more honorable?

This is a lump of flech we're talking about. As bad as it sounds, the fetuses aren;t a human life yet. They can't make their own decisions. The parents can, and if they choose to burn them and forget the rough spot in their lives....why is that an issue?

It is an issue simply because it reflects on society as a whole. We are the disposable society - if it is inconvenient, too bad. But you are right in the decision part - they can't make one. No different than billions that cannot, although alive, do the same, with many of them under threat of probable death if they decide against the current regime over their lives.

And that is outside the "free world" where hundreds of millions simply cannot make a decision at all, because big brother tells them what to decide, and they are too stupid to comprehend the results.

All about me, right?

 

[Chris0nllyn]

It is an issue simply because it reflects on society as a whole. We are the disposable society - if it is inconvenient, too bad. But you are right in the decision part - they can't make one. No different than billions that cannot, although alive, do the same, with many of them under threat of probable death if they decide against the current regime over their lives.

And that is outside the "free world" where hundreds of millions simply cannot make a decision at all, because big brother tells them what to decide, and they are too stupid to comprehend the results.

All about me, right?

But that's what our world is. It's not pretty, but by nature, humans are violent.

 

[ProximaCentauri]

Curious how Christians are myopically focused on abortion when 9 million children who have already been born into this world die every year of starvation and disease. Maybe they could do more good by applying themselves to this human tragedy.

 

[Lurk]

You talkin' about the 9 million or so who are dying overseas in third-world septic holes?

 

[PrchJrkr]

Respect and Honor? Strapping them to a bed and shooting drugs into their veins while a group of people watch them fade away into sleep and a burp? Or is the electric chair more honorable?

This is a lump of flech we're talking about. As bad as it sounds, the fetuses aren;t a human life yet. They can't make their own decisions. The parents can, and if they choose to burn them and forget the rough spot in their lives....why is that an issue?

Jeremiah 1:5

 

[ProximaCentauri]

More than 20% of all human fetuses are aborted naturally, therefore it follows that God is the most prolific abortionist in the history of mankind.

 

[PsyOps]

But that's what our world is. It's not pretty, but by nature, humans are violent.

Then butchering and incinerating babies with the ordinary trash is justified.

 

[PsyOps]

Curious how Christians are myopically focused on abortion when 9 million children who have already been born into this world die every year of starvation and disease. Maybe they could do more good by applying themselves to this human tragedy.

This is a myopically ignorant statement. What makes you think Christians aren’t concerned, at the same level, about starvation and disease?