ah, teachers, the ones that determine your kids genders....

twinoaks207

Having Fun!
Okay, y'all, listen up. First of all, the title of this is ridiculous. Teachers do not determine the gender of children. That's just one of the things put out by various media sources to push buttons. Teachers these days are walking tightropes between Admins, School Board, Politicians with agendas, and Parents, ALL while they are just trying to teach their subject area to the children. There is so much sh*t piled on the plates of teachers these days that I am really surprised that any are left in the classrooms.

Teachers are expected to:
  • teach social emotional skills to the kids, (when I was a kid, my parents did this)
  • feed them if they're hungry, (again, my parents did this when I was a kid)
  • refer them for counseling if there is any suspicion of a problem, contact CPS and file a report if there is an inkling of a suspicion of ANY kind of abuse (or risk losing their teaching license and livelihood),
  • secure the classroom & stand in front of your children if there is an active shooter in the building, while ensuring that your children get to a safe hiding place
  • react with kindness and understanding of behavior when assaulted by students, (or even parents)
  • differentiate the instruction of 30+ different individual students in each class group taught (including providing accommodations for Special education students with IEPS, students with 504 Plans, and students who are speakers of other languages) not to mention the students who are below grade level or have knowledge gaps
  • create a positive classroom environment
  • contact parents by phone calls or electronically whenever there is an issue or concern with the student, AND to also relate positive things that the students are doing because no one likes to get bad news all of the time!
  • create "classroom assessments" to determine if the students are learning concepts/info taught
  • Grade those assessments
  • Re-teach concepts missed while simultaneously covering new material for the day because the curriculums are now scripted and God help you if you are teaching Last Tuesday's lesson on Wednesday!
  • Prepare your students for the multitude of TESTS required by policy makers and making Pearson ( the lead testing company for EVERYTHING and based in the UK) a mint of money that could be devoted to other things needed by our schools (or maybe a tax cut for taxpayers), all the while losing additional instructional time due to the actual "testing" mechanism
  • create "meaningful and engaging" lesson plans and submit them to the Principal (and they must include objectives, standards, accommodations, etc.)
  • take on "additional duties as assigned": bus duty, hall duty, lunch duty, Tech person, etc.
  • "Cover" other classes/groups when there are NO Subs available
  • attend weekly & monthly meetings regarding instruction
  • participate in any IEP or 504 meetings
  • participate in "Professional Development" (and I use that term loosely because most of it these days is useless and only provided as a CYA by the District
  • Take graduate classes (paid for by the teacher, sometimes re-imbursed but most often not) in order to keep their license or move up in salary or responsibility
  • tolerate poor leadership at times because they can't afford to quit
  • cope with supply shortages (copy paper, pencils, toilet paper, paper towels, etc.)
  • devote an extra 10-20 hours outside of their work day to get things done because there is NO chance to get them done during the work day
  • completely tear down their classrooms every June and pack everything up, and then unpack it in August and put it all back up again, and the pressure to be Pinterest Perfect is huge (that "engaging" classroom piece above).
  • basically be a robot with no feelings, no flaws, never gets sick, doesn't have family, etc.
Having just left the field after 40 years, let me tell you that your Teachers are NOT okay! They are drowning, and leaving in droves, especially the good ones who just want to TEACH the children! The amount of bullsh*t going on in schools right now is unbelievable (especially if you're not IN it) and it is totally unsustainable. Google "Teacher Shortage" and see what you come up with for results. Because of the shortages nationwide, school districts have gotten to the point of putting in any warm body they can find. And when they can't find one, the position goes unfilled and the Teachers and other staff in the buildings lose their small amount of daily "planning time" (or even their lunch time) to cover those empty slots. And sometimes, the slots just don't get filled at all. They're combining classes (think 40+ students in a room with desks for 28), or just not even having that class or subject. My school was unable to fill my position for this school year. There is no one in my Library teaching the students how to choose valid resources, how to navigate & act online, how to evaluate media sources for accuracy and bias, AND, worst of all, the students who didn't have a whole lot of access to books, now have none.

So, don't EVEN go there with Teacher bashing. If you haven't walked in those shoes recently, you have no creds!
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

Okay, y'all, listen up. First of all, the title of this is ridiculous. Teachers do not determine the gender of children. That's just one of the things put out by various media sources to push buttons. Teachers these days are walking tightropes between Admins, School Board, Politicians with agendas, and Parents, ALL while they are just trying to teach their subject area to the children. There is so much sh*t piled on the plates of teachers these days that I am really surprised that any are left in the classrooms.

Teachers are expected to:
  • teach social emotional skills to the kids, (when I was a kid, my parents did this)
  • feed them if they're hungry, (again, my parents did this when I was a kid)
  • refer them for counseling if there is any suspicion of a problem, contact CPS and file a report if there is an inkling of a suspicion of ANY kind of abuse (or risk losing their teaching license and livelihood),
  • secure the classroom & stand in front of your children if there is an active shooter in the building, while ensuring that your children get to a safe hiding place
  • react with kindness and understanding of behavior when assaulted by students, (or even parents)
  • differentiate the instruction of 30+ different individual students in each class group taught (including providing accommodations for Special education students with IEPS, students with 504 Plans, and students who are speakers of other languages) not to mention the students who are below grade level or have knowledge gaps
  • create a positive classroom environment
  • contact parents by phone calls or electronically whenever there is an issue or concern with the student, AND to also relate positive things that the students are doing because no one likes to get bad news all of the time!
  • create "classroom assessments" to determine if the students are learning concepts/info taught
  • Grade those assessments
  • Re-teach concepts missed while simultaneously covering new material for the day because the curriculums are now scripted and God help you if you are teaching Last Tuesday's lesson on Wednesday!
  • Prepare your students for the multitude of TESTS required by policy makers and making Pearson ( the lead testing company for EVERYTHING and based in the UK) a mint of money that could be devoted to other things needed by our schools (or maybe a tax cut for taxpayers), all the while losing additional instructional time due to the actual "testing" mechanism
  • create "meaningful and engaging" lesson plans and submit them to the Principal (and they must include objectives, standards, accommodations, etc.)
  • take on "additional duties as assigned": bus duty, hall duty, lunch duty, Tech person, etc.
  • "Cover" other classes/groups when there are NO Subs available
  • attend weekly & monthly meetings regarding instruction
  • participate in any IEP or 504 meetings
  • participate in "Professional Development" (and I use that term loosely because most of it these days is useless and only provided as a CYA by the District
  • Take graduate classes (paid for by the teacher, sometimes re-imbursed but most often not) in order to keep their license or move up in salary or responsibility
  • tolerate poor leadership at times because they can't afford to quit
  • cope with supply shortages (copy paper, pencils, toilet paper, paper towels, etc.)
  • devote an extra 10-20 hours outside of their work day to get things done because there is NO chance to get them done during the work day
  • completely tear down their classrooms every June and pack everything up, and then unpack it in August and put it all back up again, and the pressure to be Pinterest Perfect is huge (that "engaging" classroom piece above).
  • basically be a robot with no feelings, no flaws, never gets sick, doesn't have family, etc.
Having just left the field after 40 years, let me tell you that your Teachers are NOT okay! They are drowning, and leaving in droves, especially the good ones who just want to TEACH the children! The amount of bullsh*t going on in schools right now is unbelievable (especially if you're not IN it) and it is totally unsustainable. Google "Teacher Shortage" and see what you come up with for results. Because of the shortages nationwide, school districts have gotten to the point of putting in any warm body they can find. And when they can't find one, the position goes unfilled and the Teachers and other staff in the buildings lose their small amount of daily "planning time" (or even their lunch time) to cover those empty slots. And sometimes, the slots just don't get filled at all. They're combining classes (think 40+ students in a room with desks for 28), or just not even having that class or subject. My school was unable to fill my position for this school year. There is no one in my Library teaching the students how to choose valid resources, how to navigate & act online, how to evaluate media sources for accuracy and bias, AND, worst of all, the students who didn't have a whole lot of access to books, now have none.

So, don't EVEN go there with Teacher bashing. If you haven't walked in those shoes recently, you have no creds!
Where in the hell is my f***ing violin? I really really really need to find it to be able to play, My Heart Bleeds For You. Guess this one will have to do for now. :wah:

In the mean time, parents, home-school your children or send them to a private school. Apparently there is nothing "good teachers" can do since they are all cowards and cannot or refuse to stand up en mass to their union and the State to effect positive change. Yet we have here a person that just retired on, and collecting, a well funded pension telling us there is nothing it could have done. Oh, and that teaching is hard and full of thankless tasks.
 

GregV814

Well-Known Member
looks like I touched a nerve. this may be a reason that mentally unstable people, like a (ahem), "non binary" TEACHER was hired at a local high school and is grabbing attention proclaiming the life of her gayness...her agenda is not English or composition, its whoopie doo I'm a lesbian!!

but if one has a degree and there are countless teaching spots to fill, this is the best schools can do.

I'm 100% positive YOU did a good job and took offense, but this isn't your Dad's Buick. Like some retired Police Officers are shaking their heads at whats happening now.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
I'm 100% positive YOU did a good job and took offense, but this isn't your Dad's Buick. Like some retired Police Officers are shaking their heads at whats happening now.
These are the words I was looking for. Thanx.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Okay, y'all, listen up. First of all, the title of this is ridiculous. Teachers do not determine the gender of children. That's just one of the things put out by various media sources to push buttons. Teachers these days are walking tightropes between Admins, School Board, Politicians with agendas, and Parents, ALL while they are just trying to teach their subject area to the children. There is so much sh*t piled on the plates of teachers these days that I am really surprised that any are left in the classrooms.

Teachers are expected to:
  • teach social emotional skills to the kids, (when I was a kid, my parents did this)
  • feed them if they're hungry, (again, my parents did this when I was a kid)
  • refer them for counseling if there is any suspicion of a problem, contact CPS and file a report if there is an inkling of a suspicion of ANY kind of abuse (or risk losing their teaching license and livelihood),
  • secure the classroom & stand in front of your children if there is an active shooter in the building, while ensuring that your children get to a safe hiding place
  • react with kindness and understanding of behavior when assaulted by students, (or even parents)
  • differentiate the instruction of 30+ different individual students in each class group taught (including providing accommodations for Special education students with IEPS, students with 504 Plans, and students who are speakers of other languages) not to mention the students who are below grade level or have knowledge gaps
  • create a positive classroom environment
  • contact parents by phone calls or electronically whenever there is an issue or concern with the student, AND to also relate positive things that the students are doing because no one likes to get bad news all of the time!
  • create "classroom assessments" to determine if the students are learning concepts/info taught
  • Grade those assessments
  • Re-teach concepts missed while simultaneously covering new material for the day because the curriculums are now scripted and God help you if you are teaching Last Tuesday's lesson on Wednesday!
  • Prepare your students for the multitude of TESTS required by policy makers and making Pearson ( the lead testing company for EVERYTHING and based in the UK) a mint of money that could be devoted to other things needed by our schools (or maybe a tax cut for taxpayers), all the while losing additional instructional time due to the actual "testing" mechanism
  • create "meaningful and engaging" lesson plans and submit them to the Principal (and they must include objectives, standards, accommodations, etc.)
  • take on "additional duties as assigned": bus duty, hall duty, lunch duty, Tech person, etc.
  • "Cover" other classes/groups when there are NO Subs available
  • attend weekly & monthly meetings regarding instruction
  • participate in any IEP or 504 meetings
  • participate in "Professional Development" (and I use that term loosely because most of it these days is useless and only provided as a CYA by the District
  • Take graduate classes (paid for by the teacher, sometimes re-imbursed but most often not) in order to keep their license or move up in salary or responsibility
  • tolerate poor leadership at times because they can't afford to quit
  • cope with supply shortages (copy paper, pencils, toilet paper, paper towels, etc.)
  • devote an extra 10-20 hours outside of their work day to get things done because there is NO chance to get them done during the work day
  • completely tear down their classrooms every June and pack everything up, and then unpack it in August and put it all back up again, and the pressure to be Pinterest Perfect is huge (that "engaging" classroom piece above).
  • basically be a robot with no feelings, no flaws, never gets sick, doesn't have family, etc.
Having just left the field after 40 years, let me tell you that your Teachers are NOT okay! They are drowning, and leaving in droves, especially the good ones who just want to TEACH the children! The amount of bullsh*t going on in schools right now is unbelievable (especially if you're not IN it) and it is totally unsustainable. Google "Teacher Shortage" and see what you come up with for results. Because of the shortages nationwide, school districts have gotten to the point of putting in any warm body they can find. And when they can't find one, the position goes unfilled and the Teachers and other staff in the buildings lose their small amount of daily "planning time" (or even their lunch time) to cover those empty slots. And sometimes, the slots just don't get filled at all. They're combining classes (think 40+ students in a room with desks for 28), or just not even having that class or subject. My school was unable to fill my position for this school year. There is no one in my Library teaching the students how to choose valid resources, how to navigate & act online, how to evaluate media sources for accuracy and bias, AND, worst of all, the students who didn't have a whole lot of access to books, now have none.

So, don't EVEN go there with Teacher bashing. If you haven't walked in those shoes recently, you have no creds!
Nice try. Your personal experiences aside...farrrr aside...the country is rife with "teachers" that are 20+yo crusaders for all sorts of disgusting fantasies. My sister-the-teacher is retiring in less than two years and more than glad of it...she's sick of the freaks that are let in to teach kids and even more sick of the "administrators" that enable all the crap that's going on.
 

twinoaks207

Having Fun!
For your consideration ...


Where in the hell is my f***ing violin? I really really really need to find it to be able to play, My Heart Bleeds For You. Guess this one will have to do for now. :wah:

In the mean time, parents, home-school your children or send them to a private school. Apparently there is nothing "good teachers" can do since they are all cowards and cannot or refuse to stand up en mass to their union and the State to effect positive change. Yet we have here a person that just retired on, and collecting, a well funded pension telling us there is nothing it could have done. Oh, and that teaching is hard and full of thankless tasks.
Well now dear, you don't need a violin for me. You don't know me and you sure don't know my financial position regarding any pension. You are making an assumption here. You are also assuming that teachers are NOT involved with their unions (the one I was in was kick-ass for the last 6 years, not so much before that as the men who were the leaders were in bed with the District leaders so they could get jobs at the District office. Nothing was done until we put women in charge, but I digress). There have also been extensive efforts at the state level to enact positive change. Something that you would know if you were involved with schools or bothered to Google.

As far as teaching being hard, no. Teaching, if you love it, is easy. It's dealing with the bureaucratic bullsh*t that gets slung by everyone in non-teaching positions, and the bullsh*t slung by those folks who think they know how to run a school because they once attended one, that is hard. At some point, one simply decides to let natural selection kick in, and sit back and observe.

Like I said, teachers are human. I don't know that teacher in Frederick and I don't know why they did what they did. I do know that sometimes people snap.
 

twinoaks207

Having Fun!
Nice try. Your personal experiences aside...farrrr aside...the country is rife with "teachers" that are 20+yo crusaders for all sorts of disgusting fantasies. My sister-the-teacher is retiring in less than two years and more than glad of it...she's sick of the freaks that are let in to teach kids and even more sick of the "administrators" that enable all the crap that's going on.
I am sorry that your sister wasn't blessed with the amazing colleagues that I had at my schools. I've done my share of complaining about Administrators but my complaints were about the ones that were above the building level and obviously were in those positions because they couldn't hack it in the classroom. There were many situations where the hands of my building Admins were tied tight. Please keep in mind that what you hear on the "news" and in the "media" is often biased and exaggerated when it comes to talking about education issues and schools. They only report the really "out there" stories as those are the ones that get them the ratings so they can charge higher advertising fees. Yes, there are poor teachers out there, just as there are poor doctors, lawyers, plumbers, electricians, etc. But there are a hell of a lot more good ones out there doing their level best to teach our children. They need to feel some support because right now, NO ONE has a good handle on how to get our public schools back to being great. I'm sure your sister knows what we need to do, but no one EVER listens to the people with boots on the ground in education.
 

Grumpy

Well-Known Member
... (the one I was in was kick-ass for the last 6 years, not so much before that as the men who were the leaders were in bed with the District leaders so they could get jobs at the District office. Nothing was done until we put women in charge, but I digress). ...
That's not gonna help your point of view.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member


Oakville High School teacher now going viral after turning up to classes with giant fake breasts.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
I am sorry that your sister wasn't blessed with the amazing colleagues that I had at my schools.
Fortunately, she HAS been blessed with amazing colleagues over most of her teaching career. She once loved what she did. Now she is simply tired and worn out from working 12-hour days plus weekends trying to please administrators that don't give a rats behind. It was also a plus that she's always lived and taught in a rural environment where conservative values still remain, there are lots of "farm kids" still...etc. Heck, the high school nearby has a *gasp* rifle team and a shooting range.
 

twinoaks207

Having Fun!
You have hit the ball joint on the nut!!! Damn white men!!!! here's another example!!!! DAMN IT!!!


HOW CAN THIS BE?? SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN LIKE THE OTHER GUY!! You know Amy Schneider.
Funny, I said nothing about "white" men. Why did your brain go there? Practice some Media Literacy.

And really, THAT's the part that you chose to put your focus upon? :sshrug:
 

CPUSA

Well-Known Member
(the one I was in was kick-ass for the last 6 years, not so much before that as the men who were the leaders were in bed with the District leaders so they could get jobs at the District office. Nothing was done until we put women in charge, but I digress).
6 years ago...wasn't that around the same time all of this bullchit started REALLY taking over our school systems?
 

twinoaks207

Having Fun!
Fortunately, she HAS been blessed with amazing colleagues over most of her teaching career. She once loved what she did. Now she is simply tired and worn out from working 12-hour days plus weekends trying to please administrators that don't give a rats behind. It was also a plus that she's always lived and taught in a rural environment where conservative values still remain, there are lots of "farm kids" still...etc. Heck, the high school nearby has a *gasp* rifle team and a shooting range.
I get it. That's the point that I reached as well, only I was at an inner Beltway somewhat urban school. For what it's worth, my school community was, for the most part, amazingly supportive, as were the majority of the parents. It was the District policy crap from above, along with multiple, ever-changing "initiatives" that never made a lick of educational sense, that pretty much put the nail in the coffin for me. I could have gone a few more years with the children because I loved what I did, but I got tired of constant district roadblocks being tossed in my way every single time I had a task to do. I was tired - both physically, and of the nonsensical stupidity coming from above, the politicians, and the Media. I figured that after 40 years in two different states, both public and private, regular and special education, and levels PreK - 12, I had done all that I could do in the current educational climate. And note, blaming the Teachers for the mess that is Education right now, is just stupid. They are foot soldiers - cannon fodder, so to speak. No one pays any attention to them when they "tell it like it is". That's clearly been proven on here with the comments. So, for those of you (with exceptions) that think everything is the fault of the Teachers, just remember, you will reap what you sow. Just don't make the mistake of tarring every teacher and every school with the same brush. Believing that every teacher is like the examples that you see on the news only exposes a person's own ignorance.

You have a Teacher in your family so I know that you know what it has become recently. If she only has two years, she's approaching the sweet point. That last year, you can just shut your door and TEACH those students the way that they need to be taught. Pleasing Admins won't really matter at that point. 😉
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
My wife says the kids have become serious discipline problems as they continually destroy the bathrooms and get into fights.

That, and the across the board loss of skills. They attribute it largely to the lockdowns, since at no time in the past has this been as persistent a problem.
 
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