America Gone Mad

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by MGKrebs
Can you find NO value in trying to understand his point of view?

No - I try not to make a habit of paying attention to the ravings of lunatics.

Admit you're just mad because it's colder than hell in Atlanta! You better bundle up - supposed to be in the teens tonight! I was going to write and tell you you suck because we're freezing to death up here and it's probably a balmy 60's where you are. Then I checked your weather report.

 

[MGKrebs]

Originally posted by Kain99
Reality is coming?

What do you think is going to happen Krebs?

What's going to happen is that, despite the protests, we will go to war. You all will get what you want. Then we ALL will be dealing with the repercussions for the next 50 years. If you want to know what that entails, you will have to find out for yourself. I can't describe it here, but just ask yourself a few questions: What are we fighting for? What are we willing to give up to get what we want? How do we expect the rest of the world to react to what we do?

 

[Kain99]

Originally posted by MGKrebs
Kain. I may like you as a person, who knows. But sometimes your posts are absurd and ludicrous. Not even worth response. But I'll try.

Well Gee, Krebs if ya wanna get personal we can!

I thought you were the guy who abhored name calling. What is it? Does Kain get under your skin?

Listen, The fact that his father was complete trash does reflect on his character... His father raised him. This factor makes me wonder about his motives and intentions.

If you choose to ignore it so be it... It' your world but if you slam me one more fricking time I'm gonna take you out.

 

[MGKrebs]

Originally posted by vraiblonde
So are some of the things we call you.

Yeah, but you guys aren't out in "the world". You live in your own little self-contained swamp of bitterness and fear.

 

[vraiblonde]

Excuse me, Bluto - that's Le Carré.

 

[MGKrebs]

Originally posted by Biscuit
Here is reality, you guys complain and say poor saddam. We find warheads and you are still so proud of being Anti- anything, you ignore it. You guys just wont be happy till more people die. And you know i am not even talking about just americans. I have known a few Iraqi's, and even in this country they are to scared to mention the monsters name. You guys are just interested in being ANTI-_____. It doesn't matter what just fill in the blank.

Biscuit- YOUR boss is the one saying that terrorism cannot be stopped, that it will go on. If that is the case, how does YOUR position of going to war, which pretty much by DEFINITION involves killing people, which I am resisting, constitute me not being happy "till more people die"? YOU are the one(s) advocating killing people. I am saying it is not necessary. saddam cannot hurt us. If he can, we can save a lot of money in our defense budget. Canada, Austria, Finland, Spain, and Mexico do not seem to feel particularly threatened. What are they doing that we are not?

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by bluto
French for 'the Carré'?

Carré - from the Latin "car", meaning an automobile; and the Greek "re", meaning a drop of golden sun. So he is a car that runs on golden sun! Fitting for a liberal, don't ya think?

 

[Biscuit]

Originally posted by MGKrebs
If you want to know what that entails, you will have to find out for yourself. I can't describe it here, but just ask yourself a few questions:

This kills me, You can't even say what your problem is. Again, ANTI _____

What are we fighting for?

The right to exist without a madman with weapons of mass distruction.

What are we willing to give up to get what we want?

A few thousand bombs, some bullets, and a few thousand Iraqi's.

How do we expect the rest of the world to react to what we do?

To sit down and shutup.

 

[MGKrebs]

Originally posted by bluto
French for 'the Carré'?

You wanna talk MGK, what about the point I raised? Do you think 50% of Americans believe Saddam was the 911 mastermind?

I'll re-read it in a moment Bluto, but I believe he was referring to a poll that indicated that statistic. Do I believe it? I suppose it's possible that 50% believe that. Does that make it right? Not necessarily. My opinion about other people's opinion has very little value in any discussion. Goes nowhere.

 

[Biscuit]

Originally posted by MGKrebs
Biscuit- YOUR boss is the one saying that terrorism cannot be stopped, that it will go on. If that is the case, how does YOUR position of going to war, which pretty much by DEFINITION involves killing people, which I am resisting, constitute me not being happy "till more people die"? YOU are the one(s) advocating killing people. I am saying it is not necessary. saddam cannot hurt us. If he can, we can save a lot of money in our defense budget. Canada, Austria, Finland, Spain, and Mexico do not seem to feel particularly threatened. What are they doing that we are not?

They probably didn't feel to threatened when hitler was begging his little rampage either, hell it was just a few jews right.

But we learned that appeasement doesn't work. Being scared to kick someone's A$$ who doesn't act right is what we need to do before things go really south. Thus the word Pre-emptive .

As far as killing people, the US has spent extensive amounts on SMART Technology ( to coin a phrase) to reduce the possibility of civilian casualties to a minimum. But saddam pushing for Mass Destruction. Do you not understand the difference?

 

[MGKrebs]

Originally posted by Biscuit
This kills me, You can't even say what your problem is. Again, ANTI _____

The only reason I can't say it is because it takes more than a pithy post to express, and there are much better sources than myself to say it anyway. If you choose to find reasons to dismiss any thought that differs from your peer group, then forget it. There is plenty of written material out there to be found if you just look for it.

What are we fighting for?

The right to exist without a madman with weapons of mass distruction.[?B]

What weapons? Why this madman and not the one's in N. Korea, China, Saudi, Syria, Pakistan? How is our "madman" different from that "madman"?

What are we willing to give up to get what we want?

A few thousand bombs, some bullets, and a few thousand Iraqi's.

How about civil rights, a few thousand American lives, 50 years of increased animosity- and therefore increased terrorism, and a wrecked economy?

How do we expect the rest of the world to react to what we do?

To sit down and shutup.

I expect you will claim "humor" here. Ha Ha.

 

[Biscuit]

Originally posted by MGKrebs
My opinion about other people's opinion has very little value in any discussion. Goes nowhere.

Exactly my point. Talking the Krebs is link talking to the wall.

 

[MGKrebs]

Originally posted by bluto
He was refering to a poll, but did not mention who conducted it. To me that just does not pass the 'common sense' test. I personally don't know anyone who believes that. In fact I may be the only person in my group of friends who has read the scuttlebutt regarding that hypothesis. Saddam has been losing villages in Northern Iraq to al Qaeda fighters. Doesn't sound like they are working together too closely to me. They are setting up Taliban-like rule in the territory they control.

Saddam doesn't even control northern Iraq! We are protecting the Kurds there. The Kurds are letting al quaida in.

This is useless. i'm outta here. You all can play with yourselves.

 

[Ken King]

Originally posted by MGKrebs
Yeah, but you guys aren't out in "the world". You live in your own little self-contained swamp of bitterness and fear.

So you say, at least our heads aren't shoved so far up our @sses that we can't see the light, like you. If you cannot see that Iraq is a threat to not only the world, but more specifically the USA , you are the one that isn't out in the world.

If this is Bushes war, explain, if you can, why the Congress has authorized the use of force to bring Saddam into compliance with the many UN resolutions that they are in violation of? May I remind you that this has been done twice, the first demand of Congress was ignored by Clinton, now we have a President that intends to execute the will of our legislature and protect us from this threat.

 

[Kain99]

Originally posted by MGKrebs

Originally posted by Biscuit
If you choose to find reasons to dismiss any thought that differs from your peer group, then forget it.

Crap Krebs, you have certainly read Biscuit wrong. He could give a $hiat less what anyone else thinks.... Includeing his peer group... If that even exists.

I though you were more intuitive than this..........

 

[Ken King]

Originally posted by MGKrebs
This is useless. i'm outta here. You all can play with yourselves.

Rant, cry, and run. Yeah Boy, that's the ticket. Hey Maynard, are you expressing the jealousy only a gelding knows?

 

[Biscuit]

Originally posted by MGKrebs
The only reason I can't say it is because it takes more than a pithy post to express, and there are much better sources than myself to say it anyway.

What weapons? Why this madman and not the one's in N. Korea, China, Saudi, Syria, Pakistan? How is our "madman" different from that "madman"?
Take a look at CNN for god sakes. Warheads Ring a bell. Last time i chedked Our madman was not using our weapons on our citizens Nor threatning citizens such as yourself for speaking agianst him.
N. Korea, China, Saudi, Syria, Pakistan all in time.

How about civil rights, a few thousand American lives, 50 years of increased animosity- and therefore increased terrorism, and a wrecked economy?
Animosity- that is a joke, They already hate us. who cares. Just look at Japan. Slapped them around and now they act right. All civilized and peaceful now are they not?


I expect you will claim "humor" here. Ha Ha. [/B]

Why Yes it was.

 

[Kain99]

Ken King has arrived so I'm outta here! Too funny Krebs.....

 

[Biscuit]

Originally posted by Ken King
ignored by Clinton, now we have a President that intends to execute the will of our legislature and protect us from this threat.

You can say that agian!

 

[Frank]

Originally posted by MGKrebs
Canada, Austria, Finland, Spain, and Mexico do not seem to feel particularly threatened. What are they doing that we are not?

Nope - but they almost completely depend on someone else to do their fighting for them. Right now, Canada's armed forces number fewer than the number of cops in New York City - without US to fight for them, they'd be screwed. They'd feel MASSIVELY threatened if a) the US were attacked broadly on American soil or b) we told them, sorry, you're on your own.

Hey, when you're top dog, everybody is after your spot - when you're nobody, no one cares.