Ann Coulter Stumbles on Abortion

[virgovictoria]

You see... this is what drives men crazy!!!

Woman: You men are all horrible and irresponsible! My poor child is suffering because it's father isn't paying child support!

Man: Have you contacted the authorities asked them to make the father pay?

Woman: Nope. It's an ego-booster knowing that I don't need his money to support my child.

Goes well with...

Man: What do you want for your birthday?

Woman: Nothing special.

Two weeks later...

Woman: What the hell do you think you're doing giving me nothing special for my birthday you creep! I HATE YOU!

 

[Ken King]

If you have a judgement and they are in arrears the state is supposed to notify the IRS and the person's tax returns are then given to the person who is supposed to get the money.

I suppose my experience with the state of Maine was better. I got a signed garnishment order stapled to the divorce/child support judgment. The instructions simply said "Sign and mail to state dept of CSE at the first missed payment." I did it, and they sent me a release stating if I signed, the state of Maine then took over my case on my behalf. I was authorizing them to do whatever necessary on my behalf, even going to court and capturing assets for the child support. I signed it, I had a check in 3 weeks. They dogged her ass constantly, she hopped jobs, they were on her. I got her tax return, both state and federal and it worked exactly as advertised. I was not on welfare either. She had to deal with the state and not me. Took the burden of being unpleasant off me totally.

I know some states like Michigan make the respondent pay the support directly to the state and they payed you. That was they had control of the case day one form the divorce.

I would have to say that it sounds as though MD has weak, pizz poor laws regarding CS. Might be time to write letters and lobby state legislators. They do listen and if they don't ditch them.

Pete,

Maryland has similar programs in place with the major difference benig that the person not receiving the child support payments has to apply for the service from the child support enforcement agency. It seems that you don't even need to go to court to obtain a judgement against the owing party.

If child support is in arrears all the custodial parent has to do is complete the application and pay the one-time fee (not to exceed $25, and can be waived or collected from funds collected) and then the full power of the program kicks in and the hunt for the dead-beat begins and includes attachment of any tax refunds (both Federal and state), garnishment of wages, seizure of bank accounts, stocks, bonds, property, can include suspension of the dead-beat's driver's license and if dodged can result in jail time.

I think a lot of the problem is people not knowing what is available or, for many I'm sure, not wanting to take the effort get what they are due.

 

[Pete]

Pete,

Maryland has similar programs in place with the major difference benig that the person not receiving the child support payments has to apply for the service from the child support enforcement agency. It seems that you don't even need to go to court to obtain a judgement against the owing party.

If child support is in arrears all the custodial parent has to do is complete the application and pay the one-time fee (not to exceed $25, and can be waived or collected from funds collected) and then the full power of the program kicks in and the hunt for the dead-beat begins and includes attachment of any tax refunds (both Federal and state), garnishment of wages, seizure of bank accounts, stocks, bonds, property, can include suspension of the dead-beat's driver's license and if dodged can result in jail time.

I think a lot of the problem is people not knowing what is available or, for many I'm sure, not wanting to take the effort get what they are due.

I figured that it was pretty similar. I even helped someone on this board with advise on how to get support enforcement across state lines and it worked. Like I said before I had my ex's wages garnished for a couple years. I even got her tax return a couple times. When I moved I had to stop enforcement in Maine because I was not a resident anymore and now she is not a resident so Maine has no jurisdiction. In due time I will apply for support enforcement via MD. In the meantime I let the hole get deeper because left to her own devices she will not pay voluntarily.

 

[Spoiled]

I didnt read all the replies but im going to give my 2 cents anyway...

Take two to tango, she can have the kid and force the man to pay child support... Or she can choose to not have the kid... That doesnt sound like equal rights to me? The choice to have sex was made by two people, the result should of what happens with the product should also be made by the same two people.

A man is just as capable of raising a kid alone as a woman is... No reason he shouldnt be given the opportunity, it is after all as much his as it is the womans

 

[Bustem' Down]

Let's see. I read al this and see same ol same ol.

Women: We give birth. We are the best.

Men: I don't see what the big deal is.

Bustem': Who really cares anyways, it's not going to change anything by sitting around arguing about something that's been argued since the begining of time.

 

[Hello6]

Well, Ma'am, I would like to see you hustling around 300+ pound cruise boxes all day for months on end. How about spending 2500 hours in the air with embolisms forming in your knees that made it feel like someone was slowly inching nails into you legs for twelve hours at a time? Morning sickness? I knew guys who spent months having morning, afternnon, and evening sickness while at sea. And heartburn, heck I'm the poster child for Prylosec OTC.

I have seen chicks hustling around 300+ lb cruise boxes. They're called Lesbians. No, really. Women will work harder than the "boys" just so we don't have to put up with the kind of comments coming out of your brain.
Sounds like you were onboard the USS SISSY. Women, straight and otherwise pull their weight and then some.
The only thing you're a poster child for IS abortion.

We all have our little horror stories, and have all endured suffering.

Yes, I have suffered, trying to give you a fair shot by reading your egotistical caveman ramblings.

 

[Spoiled]

I have seen chicks hustling around 300+ lb cruise boxes. They're called Lesbians. No, really. Women will work harder than the "boys" just so we don't have to put up with the kind of comments coming out of your brain.
Sounds like you were onboard the USS SISSY. Women, straight and otherwise pull their weight and then some.
The only thing you're a poster child for IS abortion.



Yes, I have suffered, trying to give you a fair shot by reading your egotistical caveman ramblings.

Do you cary a Selective Service card?

Are you in the military?

 

[Ken King]

Do you cary a Selective Service card?

Are you in the military?

I am fairly sure that Hello6 is a woman and therefore, by law, does not have to register for the draft (which isn’t going on anyway so that point is moot) and I am also sure that you haven't served a single day either. If she has served does that mean she is more of a man then you?

 

[Hello6]

Active duty Navy for 14 years and currently onboard an aircraft carrier.

Any other questions?

 

[Spoiled]

I am fairly sure that Hello6 is a woman and therefore, by law, does not have to register for the draft (which isn’t going on anyway so that point is moot) and I am also sure that you haven't served a single day either. If she has served does that mean she is more of a man then you?

the point is by law we arent equal, im REQUIRED to do it regardless of my choice... I thought she was insulting someone who served without doing it herself, i apparently was wrong and i am sorry...


hello, thank you for serving

 

[Animal]

the point is by law we arent equal, im REQUIRED to do it regardless of my choice... I thought she was insulting someone who served without doing it herself, i apparently was wrong and i am sorry...


hello, thank you for serving

Spoiled,

You are right, the laws aren't always equal. It is true that there is disparity in our Selective Service laws based on sex even though we are all supposed to be equal. It is also true that there is disparity in the laws as to what functions women can perform once they have chosen to serve in the all volunteer military. There are exciting opportunities and challenges that a woman never gets the chance to do even though she is supposed to be equal. It goes both ways.

This however is a discussion about abortion and the fact is that the woman carries the child/fetus/glob of tissue and therefore our laws entitle her to make decisions concerning the continuation of a pregnancy within certain boundaries. As Roe v. Wade established there is a point of viability for the fetus when the state obtains an inherent interest for the protection of the potential child that overrides the mother’s desire to terminate without an absolute medical necessity.

Is this perfect? No it isn’t and in my mind, as to the “father’s” rights, if the man wants the child and the mother doesn’t then there should be a process in place for that man to abate/curtail/halt any procedure that would terminate the pregnancy. Anything established would have to include a means to financially compensate the impregnated woman for the period of the pregnancy, the birth process, impact on employment, and that unknown mental anguish of carrying and bearing a child and then giving it up. At best anything established would be murky and probably have to be mediated at various stages along the way.

Now if the woman isn’t sure whom the sperm donor is, was raped, sexually abused by a family member, or is tied up with a person that couldn’t give a rat’s ass about the child then the decision should be hers and hers alone.

This of course is just my opinion as how this could be approached to assure that all involved have their say and I know many would feel that “forcing” a woman to carry through with a pregnancy is outlandish but so isn’t arbitrary termination of a life form that took both parties to create whether they intended to or not.

 

[vraiblonde]

the point is by law we arent equal, im REQUIRED to do it regardless of my choice...

Since we're veering about:

Why don't women have to register with Selective Service? NOW gets their panties in a wad over everything under the sun - you'd think this would REALLY send them over the edge.

I'll start a new tread...

 

[Bruzilla]

I have seen chicks hustling around 300+ lb cruise boxes. They're called Lesbians. No, really. Women will work harder than the "boys" just so we don't have to put up with the kind of comments coming out of your brain.
Sounds like you were onboard the USS SISSY. Women, straight and otherwise pull their weight and then some.
The only thing you're a poster child for IS abortion.



Yes, I have suffered, trying to give you a fair shot by reading your egotistical caveman ramblings.

Whoa! I gotta toss the BS flag on you. I worked at several bases and one patrol squadron that had women aboard, and yes- the lesbians did do a lot of the heavy lifting. But the straight gals would often flash their eyes at the guys and get them to do their work. Granted, the guys were just as guilty for allowing thmselves to be led about by the..., but I rarely saw straight gals toting their fair share.

I also saw plenty of women in the Navy who were more than willing to shack up with someone in authority to better their lot in life. But hey, what do you think is going to happen when you have 340 men and five women?

I don't know the source of this pervasive myth that women do more than men to prove a point. That's definately the exception to the rule in the military.