Another biker death today...

BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
edinsomd said:
Good start, looking where you want to go is key, what I meant by "looking through the apex". Learn how to counter steer, it’s the only way to turn quickly and will one day save your life. Also practice stopping quickly. Not a panic stop where you lock tires, but a controlled maximum stop using front and rear brakes just up to, but not at full lock. These are basic skills that might very well have saved the life of the rider this thread started on.
Ed
I need to work on the panic stop up and down my road. I got into the bad habit of not using my back brake. I am making sure I use that all the time. I had to slam on both brakes recently and was amazed what that does. :jameo: I had never had to brake that fast,, but slowly let the back brake off, and came out fine. It was scary for a moment.
 

edinsomd

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flomaster said:
I have taken the Motorcycle safety foundation course 3 times in my life and have never failed to learn something new. The look where you are going approach is amazing once you get used to it. The PAX course made me lock the back wheel to see how it feels and looking straight ahead during the lock up pointed the bike exactly straight as it should have. Will be just a matter of time before mothers of America find some way to screw the riders that do it right and legislation makes riding what you want to ride a PITA!!!
What the DON'T teach, or at least didn't when I took the course sometime last centaury, that if one is heeled over in a turn and stomps on the brakes, the bike stands straight up and one winds up in the weeds. Law of physics sort of thing, which I’m certain happened to the unfortunate rider at the start of this thread.
Ed
 

dustin

UAIOE
I still stand by the training track of MSF + pickyer roadrace track school. That combo taught me wonders...
 

Ponytail

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edinsomd said:
What the DON'T teach, or at least didn't when I took the course sometime last centaury, that if one is heeled over in a turn and stomps on the brakes, the bike stands straight up and one winds up in the weeds. Law of physics sort of thing, which I’m certain happened to the unfortunate rider at the start of this thread.
Ed

They pounded that into us pretty good when I took the course in GA 10 years ago. "Brake the roll into it. brake, then roll into it...:blahblah: ". In my head, all I heard was " let the big dumb one try it again!" :lol: *crash* ERH! *Crash* ERH! *CRASH* :lol:

It's mean, but that course weeded out a few that hopefully will never attempt to ride anything more complicated than a tricycle. And they made it fun for the rest of us. :yay:
 

flomaster

J.F. A sus ordenes!
dustin said:
I still stand by the training track of MSF + pickyer roadrace track school. That combo taught me wonders...

The Book "Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code taught me a few skills that helped me alot. There is a excercise in the book that has you focus on a single point on a wall or object and using your periphery, identify all the objects you can see. Practice that enough and it sharpens your skills to be able to see what might be coming though you aren't directly looking at it. Its mainly a rode racing book but has lots of good input on things you can use on the street.
 

dustin

UAIOE
flomaster said:
The Book "Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code taught me a few skills that helped me alot. There is a excercise in the book that has you focus on a single point on a wall or object and using your periphery, identify all the objects you can see. Practice that enough and it sharpens your skills to be able to see what might be coming though you aren't directly looking at it. Its mainly a rode racing book but has lots of good input on things you can use on the street.
that book is on my bookshelf as i write this... :lol:
 

dustin

UAIOE
edinsomd said:
Mmmm, track days of my youth....
That sir is the only way i would ever get back on another bike... it being a track only bike. Sadly the greenbacks arent grown on the bushes in my yard.
 

flomaster

J.F. A sus ordenes!
dustin said:
that book is on my bookshelf as i write this... :lol:

Of course when I read it I was on a great big naval luxury liner with a bunch of helo's on it way back in 1990 or so. Would read it again if and when I started riding again just for a refresher. The wallet only allows for one toy and its on 4 wheels. Of course my tires, drilled rotors and dropped spindels used to be an FJ1200!!!!! :lmao:
 

Ponytail

New Member
flomaster said:
Of course when I read it I was on a great big naval luxury liner with a bunch of helo's on it way back in 1990 or so. Would read it again if and when I started riding again just for a refresher. The wallet only allows for one toy and its on 4 wheels. Of course my tires, drilled rotors and dropped spindels used to be an FJ1200!!!!! :lmao:

Yea, but the FJ wasn't a "hanger queen".
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
Ponytail said:
Yea, but the FJ wasn't a "hanger queen".
Bug spotted a "weird aircraft" flying over the ice cream place today. I pointed out to her that it was a V-22 Osprey. :lol:
 

edinsomd

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Ponytail said:
They pounded that into us pretty good when I took the course in GA 10 years ago. "Brake the roll into it. brake, then roll into it...:blahblah: ". In my head, all I heard was " let the big dumb one try it again!" :lol: *crash* ERH! *Crash* ERH! *CRASH* :lol:

It's mean, but that course weeded out a few that hopefully will never attempt to ride anything more complicated than a tricycle. And they made it fun for the rest of us. :yay:

Not trailing a little back brake in the turn to settle your suspension and control apex speed while on the throttle? :whistle:
Ed
Sorry, track days flashback, won't happen again. :buddies:
 

Ponytail

New Member
edinsomd said:
Not trailing a little back brake in the turn to settle your suspension and control apex speed while on the throttle? :whistle:
Ed
Sorry, track days flashback, won't happen again. :buddies:

Nope.. Didn't teach the trailing brake thing in the Basic riders course. I learned that from a fellow rider. GAWD, I want to do a track day!
 

Ponytail

New Member
RoseRed said:
Bug spotted a "weird aircraft" flying over the ice cream place today. I pointed out to her that it was a V-22 Osprey. :lol:


Couldn't have been. They don't fly. They are only used to train Maintainers for other programs.
 
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