Another Fundy wacko bites the dust

PsyOps

Pixelated
Believe is Strong's # 4100 and it is the same word in John 3:16, John 5:24 and translated "commit" in John 2:24. The same faith that I put in a chair is the same faith that I put in Jesus.

John 2:24 But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,

http://www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=2&v=24&t=KJV#conc/24

And I have fear in the Lord. Do I chose to do something wrong when no one is watching or do I do what is right? If you believe God is watching, you might have some fear of God from what you are doing.

Hebrews 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Do you think I can get away with anything with God? If you aren't a son of God then maybe you can get away with it for a time without being disciplined. My life has people troubling me so I can look to God.
Why does God allow evil? So you can have a reason to look to Him and be saved.

Belief in God is also the same coin as repentance.

When we look to God, we are turning towards Him and sometimes repentance is a result of belief so when we look towards God, we often turn from something like sin.

There are more lessons in the Bible and they are right in front of you if you would only look. I also ran in to people trying to disprove what some people believe in salvation and I have an apologetic that what people are dismissing is actually faith in God.

This is what I was looking for. You referenced John 5:24 in terms of “believing” and Romans 10:9. Funny thing is, the words are two different words in the Greek but translate to the same word in English; therefore they get conflated into one meaning.

The term ‘believe’ in John is to ‘commit’ one’s life to precepts of Christ

The term ‘believe’ in Romans is to ‘acknowledge’ that something happened.

Most folks look at the words the same and apply the generic definition of ‘believe’, which is to ‘acknowledge’; therefore consider themselves Christians by simply acknowledging that Christ exists, without actually committing to the life-changes that come with being saved. I’ve been to far too many churches that don’t bother with these word studies.

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Chuckt

Guest
This is what I was looking for. You referenced John 5:24 in terms of “believing” and Romans 10:9. Funny thing is, the words are two different words in the Greek but translate to the same word in English; therefore they get conflated into one meaning.

The term ‘believe’ in John is to ‘commit’ one’s life to precepts of Christ

The term ‘believe’ in Romans is to ‘acknowledge’ that something happened.

Most folks look at the words the same and apply the generic definition of ‘believe’, which is to ‘acknowledge’; therefore consider themselves Christians by simply acknowledging that Christ exists, without actually committing to the life-changes that come with being saved. I’ve been to far too many churches that don’t bother with these word studies.

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New International Version
"Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven.

http://biblehub.com/matthew/10-32.htm

Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

You're trying to say that if man isn't sanctified then he can't come but God sees things not as though they were. In other words, he quickeneth the dead. What can dead people do? Nothing. But then He (God) called them. How can they answer if they are dead? He quickens them which means that God is in charge of sanctification and it isn't your work to do in order to get saved because God saves them and then changes them at God's speed and God is very patient and longsuffering.

King James Bible
(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
http://biblehub.com/romans/4-17.htm

So the beauty of it is that even people who are wrecks can come to Jesus and He will save them.
 
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Bird Dog

Bird Dog
PREMO Member
Does the Catholic church represent a scattered Church? I think you can't answer it to my satisfaction and this is where Catholics who wanted to use my knowledge to help their church fight protestantism actually cut their conversation with me because they don't want their flock to hear the truth. Keep arguing against the 33,000 protestant denominations and you may hear this argument again and you may be asked about it. Do you have a good answer? No one has ever seriously given me an answer.

You are still quite full of yourself.
Why do ask a question and tell the recipient, before answering they cannot answer to your satisfaction?
Catholics who "wanted to use your knowledge". I think not.
No one will ever give you a good answer, because you don't listen to anyone. You know iit all. You just repeat your psycho-babble and tell everyone how great you are.
Catholics wanting to use your knowledge, that was your best post yet.......not.
 
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Chuckt

Guest
You are still quite full of yourself.
Why do ask a question and tell the recipient, before answering they cannot answer to your satisfaction?
Catholics who "wanted to use your knowledge". I think not.
No one will ever give you a good answer, because you don't listen to anyone. You know iit all. You just repeat your psycho-babble and tell everyone how great you are.
Catholics wanting to use your knowledge, that was your best post yet.......not.

Because a bishop in my area emailed me, asked me to provide the arguments and I realized he was really using me to provide material so his parish could develop a training program against Christians. So if one of your bishops couldn't or wouldn't answer my question then what hope do I have at having it answered?

The rest of your response is an ad-hominem.
 

Bird Dog

Bird Dog
PREMO Member
Because a bishop in my area emailed me, asked me to provide the arguments and I realized he was really using me to provide material so his parish could develop a training program against Christians. So if one of your bishops couldn't or wouldn't answer my question then what hope do I have at having it answered?

The rest of your response is an ad-hominem.

Bearing false witness is also a sin......you need to STFU before your damned
 

Bird Dog

Bird Dog
PREMO Member
Because a bishop in my area emailed me, asked me to provide the arguments and I realized he was really using me to provide material so his parish could develop a training program against Christians. So if one of your bishops couldn't or wouldn't answer my question then what hope do I have at having it answered?

The rest of your response is an ad-hominem.

Send a copy of the email.......
 

hotcoffee

New Member
A few of the histories of Luther I've read stated that he had one regret after translating the Bible into German. People would read passages thinking they meant something entirely different from what the established understanding at the time. Luther felt it was the clergy's duty to instruct the laity on the meaning of what they were reading. Sort of like the story of Philip and the Eunuch.

That's why I said we were to study the Scriptures for ourselves, in prayer, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

I guess the important part here is to teach the new Christians about prayer and guidance of the Holy Spirit, if we're to avoid the problem Luther brought up.

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onel0126

Bead mumbler
Because a bishop in my area emailed me, asked me to provide the arguments and I realized he was really using me to provide material so his parish could develop a training program against Christians.
A Roman Catholic Bishop? I won't ask you to post the email but what was this Bishops name? Or is he one of those covert CIA Bishops trained to wipe out Christians?
 
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