AndyMarquisLIVE said:
We're not still fighting a war in Europe. We're not losing dozens of troops a month in combat operations in Europe.
That's kind of a dumb argument. You expect to lose troops when you're in a war. Losing dozens of troops is what happens in war - except of course, we're managing to lose dozens a month when we were losing dozens a minute in previous wars.
I think liberals just have a hard time believing we're at war. The rationale of leaving because we're losing men is like telling cops not to patrol the streets or firefighters to stop fighting fires, because it's too dangerous. Of course it is. You think that a few weeks of boot camp ought to get that idea in - we train our guys to kill their guys. Death is always tragic, but it's damned stupid to point to deaths in war as a reason NOT to fight it.
The proper time to decide whether or not to commit to battle is BEFORE THE WAR BEGINS. Once you engage, it's kind of like deciding you don't want to be a dad once the kid becomes a toddler - it's just a little too damned late. If you vote to go to war, your focus ought to be on how to WIN the war - not on how to criticize the decision to go in - ESPECIALLY if you voted FOR it.
What I want to hear from the Democrats is a plan to WIN THIS WAR - not on how to just get the hell out and let the chips fall where they may. They share some of the blame for getting us in, because a lot of them voted for it. For those who have died already, the greatest thing they can do is honor their deaths by finding a way to WIN. That's why I can't respect their position. They don't want to win; they just want to be sure that our soldiers aren't being shot at. No long range regional goals; no plan on global terror. Just run like hell. Or run slowly.
It's still surrender by any other name.