Attention horse folks

[Cowgirl]

Attention horse folks 11-07-2006 08:11 AM she is the authority and she will tell you that

 

[Winn Dixie]

Attention horse folks 11-07-2006 08:11 AM she is the authority and she will tell you that

People are so weird before they have to go to work/school, aren't they? Let's just hope they're not old enough to vote! By the way, good advice.

 

[persimmoncf]

This behavior is to be expected when you purchase a horse that has had no formal training under saddle or extensive time in the saddle by a very experienced rider (hence...training). Im expecting that Lou, being an x-amish horse has not had training under saddle...but has been ridden and asked to do everything other ridding horses do. And is now showing his lack of understanding and dis-respect.

Remax, If this is your first horse or you feel that you are a rider with little confidence and knowledge to start a green horse (or a horse "showing" green behavior) my suggestion would be to move to a seasoned horse. One that you can learn on and build your confidence.

I have seen too many new riders with inappropriate horses loose all desire to ride due to huge falls/injurys/scares. Its not worth it! Be Safe! Have Fun!

 

[barncat]

Sure does. When I got him from Paso, he was always quiet. Then someone at my first barn did something to him. 180 change in a day!

Now, he has this fit every time I mount, then it's over and he's quiet. Great on the trail, but you are RIGHT, I need to be more assertive when he tries to say no. What would you do about the backing up?

I read the part about the whip issues after I posted and I would not suggest smacking this horse with a whip. I also didn't realize you were a novice rider. I agree with the above poster, move on to a horse that knows his job and will take care of you, or invest in training by someone who can deal with this horses issues appropriately and help you become a confident rider that can deal with these issues.

Do whatever it takes to make him go forward. Backing up can quickly lead to rearing and that is a dangerous vice.

Any horse that I have ridden that started the backing up crap got their butts smacked with a whip until they moved forward. I can't remember any horse having a nasty reaction, most of them were so startled that they were smacked that they move forward and the discussion was over. I rode young TBs for 2 years outside in open fields year long and there were plenty of moments when they saw something and they didn't want to go near it for the life of them. Just be ready to ride a leap out if it's dealig with water or a puddle.

 

[remaxrealtor]

This behavior is to be expected when you purchase a horse that has had no formal training under saddle or extensive time in the saddle by a very experienced rider (hence...training). Im expecting that Lou, being an x-amish horse has not had training under saddle...but has been ridden and asked to do everything other ridding horses do. And is now showing his lack of understanding and dis-respect.

Remax, If this is your first horse or you feel that you are a rider with little confidence and knowledge to start a green horse (or a horse "showing" green behavior) my suggestion would be to move to a seasoned horse. One that you can learn on and build your confidence.

I have seen too many new riders with inappropriate horses loose all desire to ride due to huge falls/injurys/scares. Its not worth it! Be Safe! Have Fun!

I've been riding since I was 10. Paso can vouch for me in the saddle......he's just an unusual case. I'll work through it, used to help saddle break quarter horses.

It's really important to me that everyone understand this DID NOT happen with Flat Iron and Julie! I had him way down in the back barn with someone else when we first boarded there. She was leasing some space there and things got ugly with her. She was asked to leave the farm and Julie took the whole thing over. I'm not in the lease concerned with the place now....fabulous care, and my tack is snuggly safe and sound with no locks, it's the best facxility i could ask for .

Thanks for all the great suggestions everyone! He is really a good baby, just needs love and a little discipline! If I could choose from a 1000 horses, I'd pick him every single time!

 

[mingiz]

This behavior is to be expected when you purchase a horse that has had no formal training under saddle or extensive time in the saddle by a very experienced rider (hence...training). Im expecting that Lou, being an x-amish horse has not had training under saddle...but has been ridden and asked to do everything other ridding horses do. And is now showing his lack of understanding and dis-respect.

Remax, If this is your first horse or you feel that you are a rider with little confidence and knowledge to start a green horse (or a horse "showing" green behavior) my suggestion would be to move to a seasoned horse. One that you can learn on and build your confidence.

I have seen too many new riders with inappropriate horses loose all desire to ride due to huge falls/injurys/scares. Its not worth it! Be Safe! Have Fun!

Very well said ...Alot of first time horse buyers get horses that are to green for what they want and the owners are to green to get the horse to do what they want. Mainly because they lack the experience. I learned through the school of hard knocks. Remax needs to get a seasoned trail horse. She would enjoy her ride times much more and would also see more than Flat iron farm. Lou is smarter than you think and is taking advantage of some things that Remax can't handle. I had a nice Pal mare that was the bomb to ride but she would rear when she didn't get her way. I got rid of her. Hated to but safety first. If I had rode her everyday she would of been fine. Now I have the fat pony and you couldn't ask for a better horse. Always the same if your riding everyday or 6mos from now.

 

[barncat]

Always the same if your riding everyday or 6mos from now.

That's how my old man is, and always has been in the 15+ years I've owned him. I've ridden too many that you have to establish yourself as boss everyride and it makes me appreciate good horses that are the same dependable beasts everytime.

 

[happyappygirl]

People are so weird before they have to go to work/school, aren't they? Let's just hope they're not old enough to vote! By the way, good advice.

i'm guessing this is directed at ME? thanks!
But me an expert? He!! NO. I was specifically ASKED what I do with a backing up horse, and i took the time to explain it they way i actually do it. (writers cramp)

 

[happyappygirl]

I don't really let her crap in anyone's yard.

That's too bad, it's very rewarding actually.
Especially when the motion detector light comes on and you freak out and clean it up with your bare hands

 

[Pasofever]

That's how my old man is, and always has been in the 15+ years I've owned him. I've ridden too many that you have to establish yourself as boss everyride and it makes me appreciate good horses that are the same dependable beasts everytime.

I thought you were talking about your husband till I got to the end of your post...

 

[barncat]

I thought you were talking about your husband till I got to the end of your post...

I can see how you could think that, but no, my husband is one of those men that has a strong personality.

 

[happyappygirl]

That's how my old man is, and always has been in the 15+ years I've owned him. I've ridden too many that you have to establish yourself as boss everyride and it makes me appreciate good horses that are the same dependable beasts everytime.

Horse like this needs to be humbled by spending some time in a field with a big 'ole stallion (like mine)

 

[barncat]

Horse like this needs to be humbled by spending some time in a field with a big 'ole stallion (like mine)

The nasty ones that had way too much input on the ride were treated to bully turnout friends and it seemed to help some. There was one in particular that was deemed to valueable to turnout with others and she was a 18.1 hand TB monster. I found her weak spot though, she disliked having her mouth jerked when she started to dive down and then slapped with the whip. One of those corrections had her behaving herself like an angel for the rest of the ride, it just stunk that it had to be done everyride.

I will eventually get another project horse and probably enjoy all the green horse antics again, for now I'm enjoying my little baby girl as much as possible.

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

I only read it cause you guys are funny. I used to ride horses so I'm still interested and my co-worker is going to buy one (two if I have my choice), so I try to keep abreast of what is going on for her. If you ever rode a motorcycle, or had a desire to, you would read the motorcycle thread. I've ridden horses, wish I had the time to have one, hence I read the threads here. I'm living vicariously through you guys.

We like having you here Hang on for the ride!!

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

BSGal, I think that I am speaking for everybody when I say "there is always an extra, come join us". I have a great, sweet QH gelding you are welcome to come ride. So you dont have to live thru us...have fun with us.

 

[happyappygirl]

I'm still mad because you and that hubby of yours ate all the food and left me none

BTW RC says Pizz-poor prior planning on your part doesn't constitute and emergency on his....and it was GOOOOOOOOOOOD food


he's just getting around to reading these forum things.

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

BTW RC says Pizz-poor prior planning on your part doesn't constitute and emergency on his....and it was GOOOOOOOOOOOD food


he's just getting around to reading these forum things.

HI Happy, how are you doing on this beautiful day?

 

[happyappygirl]

HI Happy, how are you doing on this beautiful day?

HappyAppy is a very HAppy Appy Gurl....she just got HIGH SPEED INTERNET!!

but i didn't ride i cleaned my house.

Oh and i made an apt to have LeRoy gelded.

 

[Pasofever]

I wont tell Vence...got a new horse today