Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people:

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
not as much as you and your MPD's rejoice in THINKING you are righteous

You are such a sad person being so wrong. I have other identities on this board. The ones you mentioned are not mine.

The only righteousness I have is the blood of Jesus over me covering my sins.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
"The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead, a snuffed-out candle. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I am a devoutly religious man."

Even in religion he spoke in ways I can't easily comprehend :lmao:
 

tommyjones

New Member
You are such a sad person being so wrong. I have other identities on this board. The ones you mentioned are not mine.

The only righteousness I have is the blood of Jesus over me covering my sins.

blah blah blah,
I am sure that jesus would have 30 MPD's to hide behind and karma bomb people with too
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
blah blah blah,
I am sure that jesus would have 30 MPD's to hide behind and karma bomb people with too

I have never posted in this forum with any MPDs.

As for karma, :jameo: ... much to do about nothing. Sorry your little life is so caught up in little red squares. Now that they are gone, you have no way to determine your worth. Must be really a terrible thing to be so insecure in your own beliefs and have so little prospects in your own life to have to attack others for their beliefs. I feel terribly sorry for you that you feel so insignificant.
 

tommyjones

New Member
I have never posted in this forum with any MPDs.

As for karma, :jameo: ... much to do about nothing. Sorry your little life is so caught up in little red squares. Now that they are gone, you have no way to determine your worth. Must be really a terrible thing to be so insecure in your own beliefs and have so little prospects in your own life to have to attack others for their beliefs. I feel terribly sorry for you that you feel so insignificant.

coming from the man with 30 MPDs just for the karma bombing. talk about caught up in little red squares, insecure, worthless, attacking others and an insignifigant life......
you make jesus proud
 

Xaquin44

New Member
This coming from the Rightous Bigot who took the time to create 30 MPD's for the sole purpose to Karma Bomb someone.

What "worth" were you measuring with that?

It's only bad when someone else does it.

If you do it and still say jesus is the best, anything is ok!
 

wildsage

earthling
Didn't Einstein have a change of opinion when he found out he was dying? Or was that Darwin? Can't remember. I know it was one of them.
Nope, neither:
"It therefore appears that Darwin did not recant, and it is a pity that to this day the Lady Hope story occasionally appears in tracts published and given out by well-meaning people." (Did Darwin recant?)
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." (Albert Einstein: Thoughts of a Freethinker)

Who cares if Einstein believed in God anyway?
Exactly right. What does it matter what anyone else's belief is as long as everyone is free to make his or her own choice?
 

craberta

New Member
because of the evil and cruelty I have seen and experienced in the world, I beleive in God. Too bad Albert never got the chance to find God while he was alive, He would have gotten a whole lot more out of it, and maybe he would have figured out how to tie his shoes too.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
What does it matter what anyone else's belief is as long as everyone is free to make his or her own choice?
AE is a perfect example of why it does matter. His high profile denial of something as simple as the Big Bang Theory hurt honest debate and study into the issue. His problem with the Big Bang was anti-theological, not scientific in nature. He did not deny any of the facts, just the thought process because it was too close to Genesis's account. Had he been able to be objective, he may have advanced knowledge instead of stifled debate.

The only way to be honest in scientific research is to have an open mind, and he did not have one because of his disdain for anything religious.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
coming from the man with 30 MPDs just for the karma bombing. talk about caught up in little red squares, insecure, worthless, attacking others and an insignifigant life......
you make jesus proud
Did you count them? How? I don't even know how many I have. Don't care. I'm relatively sure I don't have 30. I haven't used any of them in a while. They were for fun to tweak those so spun up about little reds squares they got red in the face and screamed just talking about them. I thought it was funny.

It's only bad when someone else does it.

If you do it and still say jesus is the best, anything is ok!

Little red squares are bad, but belittling someones faith is not? I see you are very mature in your attitudes.

I care not what either of you say, post, or think. You are not worthy of any further discourse. Like the sack, you disappear into the oblivion of ignore. Bye.
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
When Food critic and Italianjacka$$ find this thread the fun will begin!
Thanks Roberta.:smoochy:
Actually, I've said all I need to say in the other threads and I really hate repeating myself. This is why I participate in some threads and not in others.
The only thing I would add here is that Einstein is now a believer because there are no unbelievers in hades (hell) today. IF he died denying Jesus (God), he passed on into eternal torment which, of course, changed his mind to that of a believer (Luke 16 v 19-31). HOWEVER, because of this, it's too late for him to get into Heaven even though he NOW believes in the God he spent a lifetime denying. Make sense darling?
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
I'm a little late into this but here's my two cents:

Who really cares what Einstein thought about God?
 

wildsage

earthling
AE is a perfect example of why it does matter. His high profile denial of something as simple as the Big Bang Theory hurt honest debate and study into the issue. His problem with the Big Bang was anti-theological, not scientific in nature. He did not deny any of the facts, just the thought process because it was too close to Genesis's account. Had he been able to be objective, he may have advanced knowledge instead of stifled debate.
The only way to be honest in scientific research is to have an open mind, and he did not have one because of his disdain for anything religious.
I'm interested to know where you got the idea that Einstein's reluctance to accept the Big Bang was based on anti-theological subjectivity. I've been unable to find any motive for that theory-dispute except what appears to be reluctance to accept a hypothesis different from his own understanding.
Admittedly, he was a rock star among the uber-geeks of the time but how long do you suppose that he actually stifled scientific debate? I think that the majority of his peers & colleagues went on with their empirical investigations in order to reach consensus on the issue – which wasn’t “we found Genesis!” When faced with other proofs, Einstein came around and admitted his blunder in proposing a static universe.
I believe he was truly agnostic, meaning that he regarded the truth of metaphysical claims about theology to be unknown. Einstein did not let religious thinking cloud his brain either way, so you could probably call him irreligious. Probably the thing that gave him greatest offense was when either side -- theist or atheist -- claimed his support for their stance. <o:p></o:p>
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
I'm interested to know where you got the idea that Einstein's reluctance to accept the Big Bang was based on anti-theological subjectivity. I've been unable to find any motive for that theory-dispute except what appears to be reluctance to accept a hypothesis different from his own understanding.
Admittedly, he was a rock star among the uber-geeks of the time but how long do you suppose that he actually stifled scientific debate? I think that the majority of his peers & colleagues went on with their empirical investigations in order to reach consensus on the issue – which wasn’t “we found Genesis!” When faced with other proofs, Einstein came around and admitted his blunder in proposing a static universe.
I believe he was truly agnostic, meaning that he regarded the truth of metaphysical claims about theology to be unknown. Einstein did not let religious thinking cloud his brain either way, so you could probably call him irreligious. Probably the thing that gave him greatest offense was when either side -- theist or atheist -- claimed his support for their stance. <o:p></o:p>
Einstein provided me with that idea:
This proposal caused a sharp reaction from the scientific community of the time. Eddington found Lemaitre's notion unpleasant. As for Einstein, he found it suspect, because, according to him, it was too strongly reminiscent of the Christian dogma of creation and was unjustifiable from a physical point of view. The debate between cosmology and religion took the form of a polemic that would last several decades. In this debate, Lemaître would be a fundamental actor who unceasingly tried to separate science from faith.

However, in January 1933, Lemaitre and Einstein, who had met on several occasions - in 1927 in Brussels, at the time of a Solvay congress, in 1932 in Belgium, at the time of a cycle of conferences in Brussels and lastly in 1935 at Princeton - traveled together to California for a series of seminars. After the Belgian detailed his theory, Einstein stood up, applauded, and said, "This is the most beautiful and satisfactory explanation of creation to which I have ever listened".​
{One source among many}
 

tommyjones

New Member
Did you count them? How? I don't even know how many I have. Don't care. I'm relatively sure I don't have 30. I haven't used any of them in a while. They were for fun to tweak those so spun up about little reds squares they got red in the face and screamed just talking about them. I thought it was funny.



Little red squares are bad, but belittling someones faith is not? I see you are very mature in your attitudes.

I care not what either of you say, post, or think. You are not worthy of any further discourse. Like the sack, you disappear into the oblivion of ignore. Bye.

awww, we pointed out that 2ndA is a flawed, hateful, scornful, petty little man and he ran away. what ever will we do?


It doens't really matter, because if God is the one he believes in, Jesus knows 2ndA is a nonrepentent hater and we all know what happens to the unrepented sinners :lmao:
 

Xaquin44

New Member
awww, we pointed out that 2ndA is a flawed, hateful, scornful, petty little man and he ran away. what ever will we do?


It doens't really matter, because if God is the one he believes in, Jesus knows 2ndA is a nonrepentent hater and we all know what happens to the unrepented sinners :lmao:

<3 <3 <3
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Not to nitpick but where does Einstein say the Big Bang was to close to Genesis, so it cant be true? Your first paragraph mentions it but its someones interpretation of Einsteins belief.

The Second paragraph doesnt re-inforce the first paragraph, because you havent shown where Einstein discounted it based on theological reasons.
You don't think that his critisism of it based on it sounding like Genesis demonstrated him discounting it based on it sounding like Genesis?

Seriously, he continued to hold onto his constant universe theory until he finally had to give it up as his "biggest blunder", but only when the theory of the Big Bang had been thoroughly peer reviewed and he wouldn't be seen as a theist for believing it. He told the guy who most famously discussed it that "math doesn't prove everything" when he couldn't refute the data, just the concept.
 
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