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Bruzilla

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I've never considered myself to be much of a bon vivant, but I do know BBQ, and I do know that "good BBQ" and "in Maryland" are not words that belong together in the same sentence. I thought I had some good BBQ growing up, but it wasn't until I got stationed in Florida that I found out what really good BBQ is. Maryland may have the crab thing down, but I never found any really good BBQ in Maryland during the 12 years I lived there... and I looked hard as I am a true BBQ junkie.

I think that for BBQ to be really good, the following conditions must be met:

1. They have to cook the meats over a hardwood fire, preferably seasoned oak. If they're using chunked misquite or hickory forget it... they're just posers. And if there's no burning wood or smoke to be seen or smelled, then the place is not a BBQ outlet as they're just throwing sauce on oven-baked meats.
2. One should encounter a nicely detectable smell of smoke near the place, and get hit in the face with it when they walk in the door. Where there's smoke there's BBQ. Where there's no smoke, there's ovens and that isn't BBQ.
3. The place should offer sweetened tea as a beverage. This does not include cans of Nestea. This also does not include unsweetened tea and a handful of sugar packets.
4. There should be at least one tomato-based sauce and one mustard-based sauce on the table. If they only have one or the other, forget it. A really good place will have six or more sauces available.
5. They should offer pulled and chopped pork, not just pulled.
6. The meat should be lean and tender, and have a nice pink tint. If it's not pink, then there's no smoking going on.
7. They should offer side dishes like fried okra, fried corn, corn nuggets, and Brunswick stew. If all they have is fries and a weak vinegar-laden cole slaw, forget it.
8. They should provide at least one slice of garlic ranch toast.
9. After the meat, the place's BBQ beans are one of the most telling features. They should be thick, heavy with molasses, and have chunks of meat.
10. When you get ready to leave, your waitress should offer you a refill in a to-go cup as a matter of habit.

The closest thing I ever found to decent BBQ in the area was Bear Creek... at least they actually went to the trouble to smoke their meats. On the downside their side dishes are horrible and everything you drink comes from a can or bottle... plus the prices were too high. If you'all every come to Jacksonville, let me know and I'll take you over to Lou Bono's BBQ and let you taste what BBQ is all about. For under $10 you can get a big plate of chopped pork and beef, a pile of fries, some really thick & creamy cole slaw, two slices of garlic toast, an ear of fried corn, and a big Luzianne sweet tea with lemon to wash it down. It doesn't get any better.
 

Bustem' Down

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Bruzilla said:
I've never considered myself to be much of a bon vivant, but I do know BBQ, and I do know that "good BBQ" and "in Maryland" are not words that belong together in the same sentence. I thought I had some good BBQ growing up, but it wasn't until I got stationed in Florida that I found out what really good BBQ is. Maryland may have the crab thing down, but I never found any really good BBQ in Maryland during the 12 years I lived there... and I looked hard as I am a true BBQ junkie.

I think that for BBQ to be really good, the following conditions must be met:

1. They have to cook the meats over a hardwood fire, preferably seasoned oak. If they're using chunked misquite or hickory forget it... they're just posers. And if there's no burning wood or smoke to be seen or smelled, then the place is not a BBQ outlet as they're just throwing sauce on oven-baked meats.
2. One should encounter a nicely detectable smell of smoke near the place, and get hit in the face with it when they walk in the door. Where there's smoke there's BBQ. Where there's no smoke, there's ovens and that isn't BBQ.
3. The place should offer sweetened tea as a beverage. This does not include cans of Nestea. This also does not include unsweetened tea and a handful of sugar packets.
4. There should be at least one tomato-based sauce and one mustard-based sauce on the table. If they only have one or the other, forget it. A really good place will have six or more sauces available.
5. They should offer pulled and chopped pork, not just pulled.
6. The meat should be lean and tender, and have a nice pink tint. If it's not pink, then there's no smoking going on.
7. They should offer side dishes like fried okra, fried corn, corn nuggets, and Brunswick stew. If all they have is fries and a weak vinegar-laden cole slaw, forget it.
8. They should provide at least one slice of garlic ranch toast.
9. After the meat, the place's BBQ beans are one of the most telling features. They should be thick, heavy with molasses, and have chunks of meat.
10. When you get ready to leave, your waitress should offer you a refill in a to-go cup as a matter of habit.

The closest thing I ever found to decent BBQ in the area was Bear Creek... at least they actually went to the trouble to smoke their meats. On the downside their side dishes are horrible and everything you drink comes from a can or bottle... plus the prices were too high. If you'all every come to Jacksonville, let me know and I'll take you over to Lou Bono's BBQ and let you taste what BBQ is all about. For under $10 you can get a big plate of chopped pork and beef, a pile of fries, some really thick & creamy cole slaw, two slices of garlic toast, an ear of fried corn, and a big Luzianne sweet tea with lemon to wash it down. It doesn't get any better.
He's got it right, I know, Texas makes good BBQ.

Have you ever tried apple wood in the fire? I had a friend back home that did that once. It was all right. Different taste but pretty good. My favorite is pecan though, not oak.
 

vraiblonde

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Bruzilla said:
I think that for BBQ to be really good, the following conditions must be met:
I agree with most of that, except for:
  • The toast - I don't like to waste my tummy room on things like toast when there's BBQ about.
  • The sweet tea - sweet tea is disgusting and beer is better with BBQ anyway.
I'm not such a snob that I "won't eat" at places like Adam's or Boomerang's, because their food is good too. But you are right - the smoky flavor of BBQ should come from the cooking process, not some sauce, and the meat should be able to stand naked before God without benefit of condiment.

I don't eat baked beans but I love a good coleslaw and woe to the BBQ place that serves runny, mayonnaise-y junk.
 
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remaxrealtor

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Bruzilla said:
I've never considered myself to be much of a bon vivant, but I do know BBQ, and I do know that "good BBQ" and "in Maryland" are not words that belong together in the same sentence. I thought I had some good BBQ growing up, but it wasn't until I got stationed in Florida that I found out what really good BBQ is. Maryland may have the crab thing down, but I never found any really good BBQ in Maryland during the 12 years I lived there... and I looked hard as I am a true BBQ junkie.

I think that for BBQ to be really good, the following conditions must be met:

1. They have to cook the meats over a hardwood fire, preferably seasoned oak. If they're using chunked misquite or hickory forget it... they're just posers. And if there's no burning wood or smoke to be seen or smelled, then the place is not a BBQ outlet as they're just throwing sauce on oven-baked meats.
2. One should encounter a nicely detectable smell of smoke near the place, and get hit in the face with it when they walk in the door. Where there's smoke there's BBQ. Where there's no smoke, there's ovens and that isn't BBQ.
3. The place should offer sweetened tea as a beverage. This does not include cans of Nestea. This also does not include unsweetened tea and a handful of sugar packets.
4. There should be at least one tomato-based sauce and one mustard-based sauce on the table. If they only have one or the other, forget it. A really good place will have six or more sauces available.
5. They should offer pulled and chopped pork, not just pulled.
6. The meat should be lean and tender, and have a nice pink tint. If it's not pink, then there's no smoking going on.
7. They should offer side dishes like fried okra, fried corn, corn nuggets, and Brunswick stew. If all they have is fries and a weak vinegar-laden cole slaw, forget it.
8. They should provide at least one slice of garlic ranch toast.
9. After the meat, the place's BBQ beans are one of the most telling features. They should be thick, heavy with molasses, and have chunks of meat.
10. When you get ready to leave, your waitress should offer you a refill in a to-go cup as a matter of habit.

The closest thing I ever found to decent BBQ in the area was Bear Creek... at least they actually went to the trouble to smoke their meats. On the downside their side dishes are horrible and everything you drink comes from a can or bottle... plus the prices were too high. If you'all every come to Jacksonville, let me know and I'll take you over to Lou Bono's BBQ and let you taste what BBQ is all about. For under $10 you can get a big plate of chopped pork and beef, a pile of fries, some really thick & creamy cole slaw, two slices of garlic toast, an ear of fried corn, and a big Luzianne sweet tea with lemon to wash it down. It doesn't get any better.

I'm with you on this. We used to go to Fernandina Beach, just outside Jacksonville and there was a spot on a little side road there that you just described to a "T" (no pun intended). The BBQ was awesome, but the sides made the meal!
 
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wharfrat2

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TJ's on Hawthorne Road between La Plata and Indian Head is almost a religious experience!
 
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remaxrealtor

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itsbob said:
I'll second that.. LOVE Boomerangs RIBS!!

Since I still have no kitchen, we've eaten there a lot lately and the food is really good, friendly, quick service, two thumbs up!!!
 
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Bruzilla

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vraiblonde said:
I agree with most of that, except for:
  • The toast - I don't like to waste my tummy room on things like toast when there's BBQ about.
  • The sweet tea - sweet tea is disgusting and beer is better with BBQ anyway.
I'm not such a snob that I "won't eat" at places like Adam's or Boomerang's, because their food is good too. But you are right - the smoky flavor of BBQ should come from the cooking process, not some sauce, and the meat should be able to stand naked before God without benefit of condiment.

I don't eat baked beans but I love a good coleslaw and woe to the BBQ place that serves runny, mayonnaise-y junk.

Here's the super-secret recipe for the best cole slaw ever, and it's easy to make:

Start with a bag of cole slaw mix from the produce section of you favorite grocery store. Just make sure that it's fresh and crispy (sometimes those pre-cut salad bags sit a bit too long on the shelf.) Dump the slaw into a mixing bowl.

Next, add a chilled bottle of Marie's Coleslaw dressing. Anyone who uses room temperature dressing should be shot, and Marie's is sold cold to begin with. Plus Marie's is the only dressing I've found that has the right amount of peppers in it.

Lastly, add about 3/4 cup of sour cream (and that's real fat guy sour cream... none of that sissy low fat crap) and stir together.

No vinegar, no mayonaise, no runny, weak, dressing that leaves you eating what's essentially rabbit food... just fantastic flavor.

Next, add a
 
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