Bible contradictions

[PsyOps]

Okay, fair enough then, here are my thoughts on that. You basically said in a nutshell to think of God like my parents, in that everything won't be explained or apparent to us for a reason, or that we have no way of ever understanding His full purpose. Makes sense in the context of the parents, but why wouldn't your God make things apparent? How can I worship a being that I can't possibly ever understand?

When I was a child I didn’t worship my parents but I did trust them, even though I didn’t completely understand them. But in a different context, you don’t completely understand the earth we live on but yet you trust it will continue to provide all we need to sustain us. You put your trust into something that has no conscience and occurs in a random fashion, yet you still trust it. I put my trust into something that has a conscience; that cares for us and provides us all we need through this creation we live on.

Sometimes I think the answer is right in front of us but we are blinded by too many other distractions to see it. It’s sort of like driving your car… How is it you can drive well everyday then one day you get distract for one instant and end up rear-ending the person in front of you? How could you possible miss the fact that the person had stopped, when you do this every single day? When we are distracted this easily in simple, everyday life events, it shouldn’t be any surprise that what happens on this earth provide a huge distraction from seeing who God is.

Just like we want our kids to learn things on their own and not give them all the answers God wants the same thing for us. God really wants us to figure things out for ourselves. He has given us all we need to know. Beyond that, we are on our own. It’s not unfair for our parents to expect this from us, why should it be unfair for God to expect this from us?

 

[camily]

Okay, fair enough then, here are my thoughts on that. You basically said in a nutshell to think of God like my parents, in that everything won't be explained or apparent to us for a reason, or that we have no way of ever understanding His full purpose. Makes sense in the context of the parents, but why wouldn't your God make things apparent? How can I worship a being that I can't possibly ever understand?

That's where faith comes in.
You also have to remember that you are thinking like a human, God is on a whole other plane.

 

[This_person]

Okay, fair enough then, here are my thoughts on that. You basically said in a nutshell to think of God like my parents, in that everything won't be explained or apparent to us for a reason, or that we have no way of ever understanding His full purpose. Makes sense in the context of the parents, but why wouldn't your God make things apparent? How can I worship a being that I can't possibly ever understand?

You say it makes sense in the context of parents. Think about why it makes sense - parents know more, know that their children aren't mature enough to understand all the reasons and thoughts involved, are trying to instill values that don't have an easy black/white type description....the list goes on and on. Having not lived your parents' lives, you can't possibly ever understand ALL their motivations for things they say and do. Not being on the same awareness level as God, you can't possibly understand all his motivations and reasons. I believe when I die I will understand even more, but while I'm here I just have to take the leap of faith.

 

[This_person]

Your God already saw me "not obeying" him back before I was born. I would negate his omniscience if I could do something other than what he already saw me do.

Given the Christian paradigm, all existence is simply a play. The ending is known. What every character is going to do, is known. It has always been known. Infinitely in time. There is no escaping this issue that comes as a CONSEQUENCE of an all-knowing, all-powerful "Author of the Universe" -- it comes inherently with the idea of a omipotent being -- like a triangle comes inherently with 3 angles. Not four, not none-- but three. You cannot escape it. It IS what MUST BE from an all knowing, all seeing God.

There can be no free will with the God of the Bible. Just like Judas HAD to betray Jesus, you have already been foreseen to get that cup of coffee (or tea, or soda, or water, or whatever).

Now if you want free will -- real free will-- become an atheist. Obviously, all choices an atheist makes are done so free and clear of any divine spirit foreseeng anything. Since obviously there are no "gods", free will comes inherently in the materialist wiorldview, as assuredly as it is lacking in the theists worldview.

You're thinking only one dimensionally, a linear view of time, with no possibilities. Imagine the parallel paths of all people able to make any and all choices. God is able to see each and every one of those choices and their results. So, God saw you get your coffee, and not get your coffee. God saw you choose to believe, and choose not to believe. Add each and every one of those choices to each and every person on the planet, born and not yet born, and God foresees it. The final result, the end of it all, good wins over evil. The specifics of how that happens have infinite possibilities, and God foresees them all. You have free will, God saw your choice, and every other choice you had, and continues on. Thus, free will and omnipotence exist hand in hand, with no problem. Your understanding of omnipotence was just limited, that's all.

 

[2ndAmendment]

... Your understanding of omnipotence was just limited, that's all.

And limiting of omnipotence does not allow omnipotence. God is so far beyond our understanding that to think we can understand is lack of understanding.