bike doesn't start

[desertrat]

In all seriousness starter fluid can really damage an engine.
Check them plugs for carbon, oily build up and if they smell like raw gas.
A bike should be able to sit for that length of time with no problems if it was running good before hand, well maintained and taken care of.

Yeah and do like my Dad used to do. "Here son hold this wire for me while I crank the engine" . Only worked once. Now, not that I don't believe you about the spray-in ether starting fluid, but I've used it a bunch of times on everything from bikes to boats and never had a problem. Granted I didn't tear the engine down afterwards but what would I have been looking for if I had? Broken pistons? Burnt valves? Just trying to get smarter here.

 

[FireBrand]

you just need fresh fuel.........

 

[Roughidle]

Yeah and do like my Dad used to do. "Here son hold this wire for me while I crank the engine" . Only worked once. Now, not that I don't believe you about the spray-in ether starting fluid, but I've used it a bunch of times on everything from bikes to boats and never had a problem. Granted I didn't tear the engine down afterwards but what would I have been looking for if I had? Broken pistons? Burnt valves? Just trying to get smarter here.

Not trying to imply mass amounts of knowledge on this subject but I've seen small engines shredded by over use of the fluid (by me as well as others, ol' dad will never let me live blowin' up a scooter motor with it ). I've come to use it as a last resort emergency tool only. If one wishes to use it I just recommend going sparingly with it.
Hope ol' boy got it running any-hoo.

 

[desertrat]

Not trying to imply mass amounts of knowledge on this subject but I've seen small engines shredded by over use of the fluid (by me as well as others, ol' dad will never let me live blowin' up a scooter motor with it ). I've come to use it as a last resort emergency tool only. If one wishes to use it I just recommend going sparingly with it.
Hope ol' boy got it running any-hoo.

All things in moderation then. I do like the way that stuff burns though.

 

[Roughidle]

All things in moderation then. I do like the way that stuff burns though.

heheh nuthin' like the smell of burning ether in the mornin'...

 

[Homer J]

Forget to turn the fuel petc0ck to "ON"

Did that once on a 500cc two-stroke dirt bike. Actually, the fuel was already on and I turned it off thinking I was turning it on. Boy was my face red, and my leg tired.

 

[edinsomd]

All BS aside, most engine problems are electric. I had an 1100 Kat, Zooks are pretty bulletproof mech-wise. Check the battery for amps, then plugs for spark. I'll bet the problem is in the plugs, fouled or toasted. A wire brush and a feeler gauge are your friends!
Ed
And 'busas are fugley

 

[flomaster]

Mere observation but this guy wants to get a bike running that's only been down for a short time and can't get it going. Now he wants to buy a bike thats almost twice the CC's and butt loads more horspower. We will be reading about him some day and it won't be pretty. Good luck. Everyone has suggested all that I could think of that would be easy.

Keep the shiny side up on that Busa. Its a rocket!!!

Former Kawasaki H2/KZ-900/KZ1000 and FJ1200(2X) rider.

 

[aps45819]

Do NOT use f*ckin starter fluid!!

I've seen your bike. ether would probably melt it

 

[dustin]

the kill switch was on
there's plenty of gas in the tank
the engine cranks
the battery is not an issue 'cuz I charged it fully before started again ( I have one of those electric charger )

I haven't dig into the engine yet (spark plugs and all those good stuff).


BS Gal
can I call your hubby now???

i know it sounds weird but check the exhaust with your hand covering the opening to feel air puffing out of the engine when it is turning over. if its not you might have some new residents in your exhaust pipe that are small, fuzzy, and have tails. same goes for air cleaner.

also on that subject of air you could try taking your air cleaner off just for a little bit while you try to turn the bike over, just to see if that little bit extra air resistance gone will give it a little more gumption to turn over.. make sure nothing drops in the carbs.

 

[joeykcp]

Mere observation but this guy wants to get a bike running that's only been down for a short time and can't get it going. Now he wants to buy a bike thats almost twice the CC's and butt loads more horspower. We will be reading about him some day and it won't be pretty. Good luck. Everyone has suggested all that I could think of that would be easy.

Keep the shiny side up on that Busa. Its a rocket!!!

Former Kawasaki H2/KZ-900/KZ1000 and FJ1200(2X) rider.

I'm no expert in riding here, but I think I have enough experience to handle a larger, more powerful bike, and I'm not looking forward to make it NOT pretty. Even though I've only been riding in one summer (got the bike back in April), I put in 5k miles in 4 months, in which the first 3k miles was in the first month. I've ridden in the rain condition (on the way to OC), in the traffic, in different region, at night. I almost got in the accident a few times because of the wet road condition, the reckless drivers switched lane without looking or signaling.
Generally, the longer you ride, the better you are, but at the same time, the more scenerios you've involved in, the better/faster you learn too.
a friend of mine owns a Busa as his first bike and used it to get his motorcycle license from the MVA.

anyway, gotta check on the spark plugs, so many nice days last week, but too bad I've returned the tag.

 

[Roughidle]

I've seen your bike. ether would probably melt it

Nah, your bike is the plastic one. It might however, ruin my paint. Some dude commented on the way out of the lot Sunday: "Cool older bike, but don't ya want someting more reliable?"
I replied: "Hell, it's been on the road for 30 years. How much more reliable ya want?"

 

[itsbob]

I'm no expert in riding here, but I think I have enough experience to handle a larger, more powerful bike, and I'm not looking forward to make it NOT pretty. Even though I've only been riding in one summer (got the bike back in April), I put in 5k miles in 4 months, in which the first 3k miles was in the first month. I've ridden in the rain condition (on the way to OC), in the traffic, in different region, at night. I almost got in the accident a few times because of the wet road condition, the reckless drivers switched lane without looking or signaling.
Generally, the longer you ride, the better you are, but at the same time, the more scenerios you've involved in, the better/faster you learn too.
a friend of mine owns a Busa as his first bike and used it to get his motorcycle license from the MVA.

anyway, gotta check on the spark plugs, so many nice days last week, but too bad I've returned the tag.

Then why a 'Busa? Why do you need a bike in your second year(season ) of riding that will do 200 MPH!?? Wanting a bike that powerful already tells me you aren't an experienced rider, just another squid. BMW makes a bike with 160HP, set all kind of speed records, has a great ride, built with all kinds of safety features, linked ABS brakes, ESA suspension.. etc etc.. but I won't get on it.

I don't trust myself around that kind of power, I know the bike can handle it, I can't. That's experience talking.

You're talking like a future statistic.

As far as experience 4,000 miles does not make you an experienced rider. I've put on about 25,000 miles in the past two seasons, but talking with truly experienced riders I know I'm just a beginner. We have riders that put on 30 - 70k miles a year, we even have female riders that put on more then 30k a year. They are the ones that can teach you, and tell what it is to be an experienced rider, and how silly it is for you to be talking about how experienced you are with a whole 4,000 miles under your belt, looking at getting a 'busa.

You can learn how to ride and get yourself into experiences to learn from, a 'busa can get you into experiences you'll never have a chance to learn from.

 

[bcp]

although at the present time I dont ride anymore, I can honestly say that your 4k of experience is not meeting the requirements for riding a bike like you are thinking about getting.

My first bike was a 250 yamaha back in 76 after about 10k on that I went to a KW 550 LTD, then a year later I moved to a 750 LTD.
I rode that 750 for a few years and about 50k then I bought the midnight special 1100. four years with the 1100 and I traded it for the Voyager, full dress.
If I would have gone right from the 250 to the Voyager I know I would have been a statistic.

you can ride for 20 years and all of a sudden you find yourself in a situation on the road that only that 20 year experience is going to get you out of alive. dont add another variable like a bike that is overpowered for your experience.

since Ive been off a bike now for a number of years, if I was to get another one at this point, I would start back in the 650 to 750 range until I regained experience lost.

From experience. Pavement is hard and abrasive.

 

[flomaster]

I'm no expert in riding here, but I think I have enough experience to handle a larger, more powerful bike, and I'm not looking forward to make it NOT pretty. Even though I've only been riding in one summer (got the bike back in April), I put in 5k miles in 4 months, in which the first 3k miles was in the first month. I've ridden in the rain condition (on the way to OC), in the traffic, in different region, at night. I almost got in the accident a few times because of the wet road condition, the reckless drivers switched lane without looking or signaling.
Generally, the longer you ride, the better you are, but at the same time, the more scenerios you've involved in, the better/faster you learn too.
a friend of mine owns a Busa as his first bike and used it to get his motorcycle license from the MVA.

anyway, gotta check on the spark plugs, so many nice days last week, but too bad I've returned the tag.

Not gonna beat up on you. Just know that the throttle on the Busa is one to be respected. Takes years to gain the experience of riding a bike especially when you got that much azz between your legs. You may think that your summer ride and a few almosts gave you the experience but you can ask a ton of seasoned riders whats out thee to look out for.

Hell I took a shot in the head on 95 once from a recap that came off a tractor trailer. Had to safe myself, my bike and the traffic around me in a split second. I got it back but had to pull over and shake the poo out of my pants after.

Good luck to you

 

[joeykcp]

Not gonna beat up on you. Just know that the throttle on the Busa is one to be respected. Takes years to gain the experience of riding a bike especially when you got that much azz between your legs. You may think that your summer ride and a few almosts gave you the experience but you can ask a ton of seasoned riders whats out thee to look out for.

Hell I took a shot in the head on 95 once from a recap that came off a tractor trailer. Had to safe myself, my bike and the traffic around me in a split second. I got it back but had to pull over and shake the poo out of my pants after.

Good luck to you

Perhaps you have miss my point, or refuse to see my point.
I already stated that I am not considered myself an experience rider, as a matter of fact, "experience" is a relative term, people have putting on tens of thousands of miles and still wouldn't consider themselves experience (like the case of yourself).
You might earn some humble points on your riding skill, but at the moment you start lecturing people, you lose them all (sorry, no heat intended).

Now I know the Busa is a big bike, I know the Busa is a heavy bike, I know the Busa is a powerful bike, and in my opinion, it's a beautiful bike, therefore I want it, simple as that.
Mind you, I do not want myself to be in the future statistic. Some people get a 1000CC super sport bike as their first bike, or after a year, or after 5 years, 10 years, it depends on the the individual, and the responsible drivers know their bikes and know their limit.
Heck, even an experience driver get in accident anyway.

My point is, if you think you're ready, then you're ready (maybe you're not, but who cares)

btw, thanks, and I need luck everyday

 

[itsbob]

My point is, if you think you're ready, then you're ready (maybe you're not, but who cares)

The family and friends you leave behind...

 

[aps45819]

I'm no expert in riding here, but I think I have enough experience to handle a larger, more powerful bike, and I'm not looking forward to make it NOT pretty. Even though I've only been riding in one summer (got the bike back in April), I put in 5k miles in 4 months, in which the first 3k miles was in the first month. I've ridden in the rain condition (on the way to OC), in the traffic, in different region, at night. I almost got in the accident a few times because of the wet road condition, the reckless drivers switched lane without looking or signaling.
Generally, the longer you ride, the better you are, but at the same time, the more scenerios you've involved in, the better/faster you learn too.
a friend of mine owns a Busa as his first bike and used it to get his motorcycle license from the MVA.

anyway, gotta check on the spark plugs, so many nice days last week, but too bad I've returned the tag.

Did just shy of 11k miles last year, first bike in '81.
A few years ago, one of the local law enforcement officers got a new Kawi ZX-?? whatever as his first bike. He died on Hermanville Rd shortly after that because it got away from him.
Granted super bikes are fun and my V Strom has more power than I NEED. But give a think to what you want the bike for. Mines a LOT more comfortable for a run to OC or the Blue Ridge Parkway and I can carry more than a toothbrush in my back pocket.

 

[flomaster]

Perhaps you have miss my point, or refuse to see my point.
I already stated that I am not considered myself an experience rider, as a matter of fact, "experience" is a relative term, people have putting on tens of thousands of miles and still wouldn't consider themselves experience (like the case of yourself).
You might earn some humble points on your riding skill, but at the moment you start lecturing people, you lose them all (sorry, no heat intended).

Now I know the Busa is a big bike, I know the Busa is a heavy bike, I know the Busa is a powerful bike, and in my opinion, it's a beautiful bike, therefore I want it, simple as that.
Mind you, I do not want myself to be in the future statistic. Some people get a 1000CC super sport bike as their first bike, or after a year, or after 5 years, 10 years, it depends on the the individual, and the responsible drivers know their bikes and know their limit.
Heck, even an experience driver get in accident anyway.

My point is, if you think you're ready, then you're ready (maybe you're not, but who cares)

btw, thanks, and I need luck everyday

Sounds like you have put some thought behind this. Just watch your azz out there on that thing. Heck most of the time its not the stupid inexperienced guy. Its the stupid guy in the 4 wheeled tank that "didn't see you". I don't disagree at all on the fact that it is a beautiful bike. I almost bought one when they first came out. Kinda of a Kawasaki guy myself and prefer the old ZX-11D myself as a nice sport tourer.

 

[aps45819]

Now I know the Busa is a big bike, I know the Busa is a heavy bike, I know the Busa is a powerful bike, and in my opinion, it's a beautiful bike, therefore I want it, simple as that.

Think that's been the reson for buying every bike I've ever owned