Erm..isn't that what they always do?
BLM - "Don't pull it out!" gets somehow interpreted as "you said to get his ID out."
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Erm..isn't that what they always do?
black dog
Free America
Days after Jeronimo Yanez was acquitted in the killing of Philando Castile, authorities released thousands of pages of investigative reports and dramatic dashcam footage showing how a routine traffic stop turned deadly in seconds.
It was the first view outside the courtroom of the footage of St. Anthony police officer Yanez firing seven shots into Castile’s car last year, killing him as viewers watched the aftermath on Facebook Live. The July 6 shooting thrust Minnesota into the national debate over police use of force and racial profiling.
Documents released Tuesday also revealed that Yanez couldn’t provide investigators with a detailed description of the driver of the car he pursued, thinking he resembled a suspect in a recent robbery.
Yanez spoke to investigators from the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) the day after the shooting, explaining that he pulled Castile over because of a nonworking brake light and in order to check whether he was one of two men from an armed robbery four days earlier.
He didn’t know whether Castile’s passenger, girlfriend Diamond Reynolds, was a man or a woman — only that the passenger wore a hat.
Photo gallery: Warning, graphic images: Evidence photos from Castile shooting scene
Read the transcript of officer Jeronimo Yanez's BCA interview
“I just knew that they were both African American, and the driver, uh, appeared to me that he appeared to match the, uh, physical description of the one of our suspects from the strong arm robbery, gunpoint,” Yanez said in the interview.
“What is that description?” asked BCA special agent Doug Henning.
“Um, it was a [sigh], I can’t remember the height, weight but I remember that it was, the male had dreadlocks around shoulder length,” Yanez said. “…And then just kind of distinct facial features with like a kind of like a wide-set nose.”
So it's ok to pull over citizens under false pretenses, just to fish and see if they might be the felon we are looking for because he's black, has dreads and a wide nose....
This was going south as soon as that Officer decided to pull this car over..
black dog
Free America
For a Officer that states over and over he was nervous,,, he's sure pretty casual when he first walks up to that car..
He was pulled over because the Officer believed he was involved in a felony.
Would just that in itself call for him being pulled over in a felony stop?
The whole thing smells...
Your bias is showing. Watch the video, the brakelights were down to one, the passenger side one.
You would think that a guy ticketed 40+ times for moving, drug and equipment violations would keep his car in a perfect state of repair. If you have enough money to buy weed, you have enough money to change a $1.50 bulb.
Chris0nllyn
Well-Known Member
I agree.
OK..I gotcha now... Lots of things were wrong or went wrong in this case..obviously.
black dog
Free America
That's what the Officer found in order to pull the car over,
The Officer also stated that when they passed easy other they locked eyes on each other. Then he kinna sorta maybe matched the description of a person involved in a felony. The officer didn't remember build or height but this driver matched because he was black, had shoulder length dress and a wide set nose... So in essence he was pulled over for looking like a Jamaican Black Man..
And I also wonder where was the partner during all this, what did he see, hear..
And I question why so much information was not given to the jury....
I discovered that I'd lost a brake/turn bulb on my Jeep the other day...after I was practically all the way to my destination. They do just up and quit without notice... ;-)
black dog
Free America
Exactly,,, of so many cases to protest,,,, this one seems like one to protest..
Chris0nllyn
Well-Known Member
Partner's statement is at the end of this
https://www.ramseycounty.us/sites/default/files/County Attorney/Yanez Jeronimo 11 16 16.pdf
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
Semi-Automatic pistols shoot so easily he dumped 7 bullets into this guy.
If he had a revolver he probably would have shot him once and quit.
black dog
Free America
I would suggest to you that more black folks kick up that 25 bucks a year ( or become lifetime members ) to join the NRA in order to receive any benefits from the NRA..
Will AAA tow your car for free if you are not a member?
black dog
Free America
If you go read case history with revolvers, during the stress of being involved in a shooting, the revolvers generally are emptied..
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
Be nice to know , have you got a link?
black dog
Free America
Thanks, with that statement, the Officer should be in prison..
Jury Nullification is a bitch....
black dog
Free America
Data from the revolver days is difficult to find on today's internet, but here's a quick and dirty reply.
I have a BIL that is now retired that spent 30 as a PD Forensic Chemist, Investigator along with a sister that did Crime Scene Blood Splatter Investigation for Jacksonville Sheriff's Dept for 20 ? Years. And now teaches at two Colleges Forensics and does that paid expert court stuff, with what they have seen in there jobs when under stress in most cases small capacity firearms are emptied. We have discussed this on many occasions. So many are taught to shoot until the threat is no longer a threat.
Data is kept on shootings, but there's not alot with did the shooter empty said firearm during the shooting.
Now this is what a quicky found.
SOP-9, as it is called, is NYPD's ongoing statistical study of lethal-force incidents in which MOSs (Members of Service) are involved. It dates from the 1860s to the present and is a credible source of information, one of the few available.
For years, we were all told SOP-9 established the "average" number of rounds fired by an MOS during a lethal encounter was two to three. We later learned that figure was incorrect and was actually the result of sloppy statistical analysis. Naive statisticians simply took the total of all rounds fired outside of the firing range and divided it by the total number of shooting "Incidents." Unhappily, "incidents" included accidents and suicides!
A more careful analysis of the data (which included only intentional shootings) revealed the actual figure to be very close to six rounds. What that said to us all was that officers, when threatened with lethal violence, were firing every round they had in their six-shot revolvers. After six shots, there was a mandatory pause for a conventional reload or a "NY reload," which consisted of producing a second revolver! After the reload, additional shooting was rarely necessary.
That was prior to 1994. In 1994 autoloading pistols were introduced to the NYPD system.
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Hijinx
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From what I have been reading it seems this Officer does not have the proper temperament to be a police officer.
It appears he was panic stricken.
Not sure he should have been convicted of murder, but am pretty sure I wouldn't want him as my partner.
IMO he needs to find another career, he isn't cut out for this one.
It appears he was panic stricken.
Not sure he should have been convicted of murder, but am pretty sure I wouldn't want him as my partner.
IMO he needs to find another career, he isn't cut out for this one.
Lurk
Happy Creepy Ass Cracka
It appears the jury proved the use-of-force expert wrong.
Chris0nllyn
Well-Known Member
After watching the dash cam footage, reading the incident report and details of the autopsy findings I got to say this is a no win For either side. Just completely ####ed up.
Castille's was high and the officer was tense and I suspect when Castille wasn't listening and keeping his hands in plain sight it flip the switch on the officer.
I tend to agree with what was said with respect to the officers temperament, he does seem a little hi strung for that job, but he's not guilty of murder or manslaughter. Mr. Castille in his impaired state bears much responsibility here, and it cost him his life. Drunk or high is no way to be concealed carry.
Castille's was high and the officer was tense and I suspect when Castille wasn't listening and keeping his hands in plain sight it flip the switch on the officer.
I tend to agree with what was said with respect to the officers temperament, he does seem a little hi strung for that job, but he's not guilty of murder or manslaughter. Mr. Castille in his impaired state bears much responsibility here, and it cost him his life. Drunk or high is no way to be concealed carry.