Boy got suspended today

crabcake

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Lugnut said:
Here's the other side of the coin Masey. Why do mothers always insist on a course of action that gets their children beat up over and over again???

VERY good question! :yay: Why not just slap the "Kick Me" sign on his back yourself when he's leaving for school?
 
Lugnut said:
Here's the other side of the coin Masey. Why do mothers always insist on a course of action that gets their children beat up over and over again???
What do you suggest her son should have done differently...:confused:
 

crabcake

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kwillia said:
What do you suggest her son should have done differently...:confused:

I don't think he's suggesting the son do anything differently; rather, that the mother just let it go and not make a target out of her son.
 

cattitude

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Curious what the kid did/said that got him picked on in the first place. Not saying he provoked the fight but usually there's some reason.
 

Lugnut

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kwillia said:
What do you suggest her son should have done differently...:confused:


These are High School students not children. These are young men just coming into their strength and are walking hormones with poor impulse control to boot!

Defending yourself from agression is NEVER the wrong thing to do. Sometimes defense means running away, sometimes you can't. From what Masey described, her boy got out of this with some minor bruises. While it's unfortunate there was a fight at all, I'd say he did just fine.
 
Lugnut said:
These are High School students not children. These are young men just coming into their strength and are walking hormones with poor impulse control to boot!

Defending yourself from agression is NEVER the wrong thing to do. Sometimes defense means running away, sometimes you can't. From what Masey described, her boy got out of this with some minor bruises. While it's unfortunate there was a fight at all, I'd say he did just fine.
What about 5 days worth of missed school work?
 
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kwillia said:
What about 5 days worth of missed school work?
When my sweet angel was suspended the teachers sent all schoool work home. :ohwell:
 

vraiblonde

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kwillia said:
What about 5 days worth of missed school work?
School work can be made up. Getting a rep as a puss will follow you through high school. And the humiliation will follow you for the rest of your life.

At some point a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do - and to heck with school work.
 
vraiblonde said:
School work can be made up. Getting a rep as a puss will follow you through high school. And the humiliation will follow you for the rest of your life.

At some point a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do - and to heck with school work.
Gotcha... I didn't realize they would let them make the work up... I thought it would be treated like an unexcused abscence.

My son has been raised knowing we will back him if he choses to defend himself. If he feels hitting back is the right thing to do at the time, I support that decision.
 

Lugnut

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kwillia said:
What about 5 days worth of missed school work?

:shrug: Better than being beat up on a regular basis or seriously injured.

When I was a kid being suspended (for ANY reaon) wasn't an excuse for not doing your homework. Students called classmates for the assignments, completed them as best they could, or received a failing grade for incomplete work.
 

Pete

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vraiblonde said:
School work can be made up. Getting a rep as a puss will follow you through high school. And the humiliation will follow you for the rest of your life.

At some point a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do - and to heck with school work.
:yeahthat: You will make a great dude some day.
 

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crabcake said:
Screw that! Tell 'em you'll file a lawsuit against them for their failure to provide a safe environment and adequate supervision in the classroom.
10-4 crabcake!
What about the 2 boys who blocked the door?? What punishment did they get?
 

LexiGirl75

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Don't know if I am handling my son's situation depussificably but initially when he was about 6-7y/o if trouble erupted outside at play (usually minor but upsetting to him) I would just let him come in the house.

After his brother moved back to DC this seemed to be a regular thing. Then one day he got in a fight with a boy his age came in the house steaming mad and was planning to stay in when I told him that he wasn't running in the house and to get his butt back out there.

So, after that he stayed out and fought and held his own and would only come inside when the older brothers of his playmates would try to get involved when he handled his biz.

I always encouraged him to defend himself but if its a really big kid or more than one to come get me. I can't see that being a bad thing. Running to mommy might be wrong but I don't want him laid out in the grass somewhere and I don't know just because he shouldn't come get me.

I would like to see some opinions from men on how mom's should have their son's handle altercations at different ages when mom may be the only one around to handle it at the time.
 

meangirl

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crabcake said:
Screw that! Is your son supposed to just stand there and be a human punching bag until the teacher decides to come back off their smoke/coffee/BJ break to do his/her job? :shrug:

Screw that! Tell 'em you'll file a lawsuit against them for their failure to provide a safe environment and adequate supervision in the classroom.

Why not? Everyone else is suing these days! :shrug:

:yeahthat: I had the same thing happen last year with my oldest boy. I told the teacher and principal and the cop they ended up calling when I got there, that if my boy is punched or hit, he has been told to punch or hit back. AND they aren't going to suspend him for it either. Well...it took forever but mine was not suspended after all.

They do expect your child to "take it." To them, defending himself would be to run and get a teacher. :rolleyes:
 

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meangirl said:
They do expect your child to "take it." To them, defending himself would be to run and get a teacher. :rolleyes:

A school bully is always going to try picking on someone who they feel will let them get away with it. It gives them a feeling of power and makes them look BIG to their buddies.

The ironic thing is that if your child lets the bully get away with it they will continue to be the bully and the bully's pals will begin giving your child the same treatment.

If you or the teachers will allow your child to stick up for themselves, they learn confidence and they can teach the bully, as well as the bully's friends that they won't stand to be pushed around. Running to the teacher every time they get picked on only sends the message that the bully can still be a bully as long as the teacher is not around and your child ends up with a reputation of being unable to stick up for him/herself.
 
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Masey said:
Boy got suspended for five days from high school for defending himself in a fight today. I can appeal to have the suspension overturned. Here is basically what happened - Boy was threatened on bus this morning by another student, boy ignored initial threat on bus and went directly to his 1st period class. Boy was going to inform his teacher of the threat made on the school bus but teacher was not in the classroom yet. The other student entered boy’s classroom, approached and shoved boy first. Two other students “blocked” the classroom doorways of the room so boy could not get out so boy had to defend himself. The principal said that had they not both been swing when they were broken up and if boy had merely bear hugged the other kid then boy would not be suspended also. I just don’t think its fair to suspend a child for fighting if they’re defending themselves. Now I have to prepare a formal letter of appeal.
I was jumped a few times in school.... Price you pay for being one of the few White kids. I was at a urinal going to the bathroom when all of a sudden someone slipped a t-shirt around my neck and started choking me. I overpowered them and broke free, chased the little bastard and it was a trap, I was surrounded by ten guys. I knocked out three guys, they came at me one at a time, after I put the three guys down everyone split because the teacher came. They didn't get into trouble, no one did. Thats a PG school for you
 

Foxhound

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Wish my housemates kid had "defense" problems. Got called to take her to school cause her son had hit a classmate. Got In school suspension. Here's the scenario.

The Boy is at a group table in class working. Goes to his desk to get a pencil, classmate A is sitting at his desk helping another classmate. So boy hits classmate A. Classmate B and C tell the teacher.

Boy first tells Vice Prin he "slipped and hit him accidently", next he says classmate A kicked him in the privates. Oh yeah, that was 2 weeks ago it turns out.

Me I'm of a mind to fight only when absolutely neccessary (sp), sounds like yours was forced into it and was in the right. Housemates seems to have anger managment issues already.
 

Magnum

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Foxhound said:
Wish my housemates kid had "defense" problems. Got called to take her to school cause her son had hit a classmate. Got In school suspension. Here's the scenario.

The Boy is at a group table in class working. Goes to his desk to get a pencil, classmate A is sitting at his desk helping another classmate. So boy hits classmate A. Classmate B and C tell the teacher.

Boy first tells Vice Prin he "slipped and hit him accidently", next he says classmate A kicked him in the privates. Oh yeah, that was 2 weeks ago it turns out.

Me I'm of a mind to fight only when absolutely neccessary (sp), sounds like yours was forced into it and was in the right. Housemates seems to have anger managment issues already.
I had many years of Martial Arts Training when I was young because I had a temper problem. I started Tang So Do when I was 7, went there until I was 10, I took a year off then went back for another year. At 14 I started Tae Kwon Do and Hapkido, I quit as soon as I hit 16 and started driving. I was trained to only fight to defend myself or help others. Also I was trained to only do what it takes to eliminate the danger. A few times at school I had kids start fights with me, one guy punched me in my chest in front of everyone, I laughed at him because he was a little bitty guy. Security came and took him away, third strike he was expelled.
 
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