Boy Scouts and Gay Rights Again.........

[bcp]

well a lot of people dont feel that being gay is something people choose. therefore, it is a good analogy.
It is only opinion that it is a choice. I seriously doubt that a person would freely choose the life of opression and bigotry that gay people face if they could choose.

does the fact that alot of people think something make it true in your mind?

 

[tommyjones]

I seriously would have guessed that nobody would have ever put raw slimy fish in their mouth, but guess what?

or mimes, who would choose that?

still waiting for some scientific proof of the gay condition, until then, your theory is of no greater value than mine.
and, the boyscouts are no more wrong that anyone else on the subject.

they are wrong on the subject if they choose to take money generated through taxes AND also choose to discriminate.

If they want to stop either one i would agree they have the right to do the other.

 

[tommyjones]

does the fact that alot of people think something make it true in your mind?

as you said yourself, it is no less correct than your opinion.

BTW, you have shown nothing that indicates it is a choice, Although i have read in this thread about the homosexuality in the animal kingdom. Considering animals are just doing what God programed them to do, i would suggest that indicates it is not a choice, but something that has been hardwired.

 

[tommyjones]

Just asking. Always heard black people can't be bigoted(racist). Just a question.

well you must have heard that from a bunch of tards......

it has been my experience that minorities are equally if not more racist than the mighty whitties

 

[toppick08]

well you must have heard that from a bunch of tards......

it has been my experience that minorities are equally if not more racist than the mighty whitties

SO...whitties flying the Stars and Bars does't offend you??

 

[tommyjones]

SO...whitties flying the Stars and Bars does't offend you??

depends on if the person flying it is lighting a cross in my front yard or not.....


but no, i dont consider it racist

 

[toppick08]

depends on if the person flying it is lighting a cross in my front yard or not.....


but no, i dont consider it racist

Thanks for your honesty and viewpoint.

 

[bcp]

they are wrong on the subject if they choose to take money generated through taxes AND also choose to discriminate.

If they want to stop either one i would agree they have the right to do the other.

the fact still remains that homos are not protected specifically in the constitution. It could be said that a small percentage of the population is trying to force a larger percentage of the population to accept and use their dollars on something that they do not agree with.

how is it right for someone that chooses to make a bad choice to dictate to someone that chooses to make a good choice?

 

[Solja_Boy]

I don't like gay people and I have every rite to feel this way.

Why doesn't somone just create a group called the Gay Scouts. That would solve all of the problems.

 

[bcp]

as you said yourself, it is no less correct than your opinion.

BTW, you have shown nothing that indicates it is a choice, Although i have read in this thread about the homosexuality in the animal kingdom. Considering animals are just doing what God programed them to do, i would suggest that indicates it is not a choice, but something that has been hardwired.

so then by your own admission it should be ok,, no it should be celebrated as a valid lifestyle for those that.

enjoy the occasional romp in the hay with the barn animals, as cross species sex is found in the animal kingdom,

enjoy hunting and killing other humans, as this is found in the animal kingdom

enjoy a good bob burger now and again, as eating their own is found in the animal kingdom.

and I suppose that it would not be a problem for you to sit next to someone in a restaurant that chooses to eat his own excrement, a big thing in the animal world, maybe even bigger than homosexual activities.

I could go on all night.

truth is, that found in the animal kingdom is a bunch of crap, a last effort to establish some sort of normality for homosexual activities.

and, you and others still fail to show factual hard proof that it is not a choice brought on by a mental illness or a brain injury.

maybe a lack of oxygen during birth causes it? Im sure that happens in the animal world also.

 

[tommyjones]

the fact still remains that homos are not protected specifically in the constitution. It could be said that a small percentage of the population is trying to force a larger percentage of the population to accept and use their dollars on something that they do not agree with.

how is it right for someone that chooses to make a bad choice to dictate to someone that chooses to make a good choice?

see, you are judging there, what if it was decided that being a christian was a bad choice, would it make it so?


just like you saying being gay is making a bad choice, most of the country does not agree.

 

[tommyjones]

so then by your own admission it should be ok,, no it should be celebrated as a valid lifestyle for those that.

enjoy the occasional romp in the hay with the barn animals, as cross species sex is found in the animal kingdom,

enjoy hunting and killing other humans, as this is found in the animal kingdom

enjoy a good bob burger now and again, as eating their own is found in the animal kingdom.

and I suppose that it would not be a problem for you to sit next to someone in a restaurant that chooses to eat his own excrement, a big thing in the animal world, maybe even bigger than homosexual activities.

I could go on all night.

truth is, that found in the animal kingdom is a bunch of crap, a last effort to establish some sort of normality for homosexual activities.

and, you and others still fail to show factual hard proof that it is not a choice brought on by a mental illness or a brain injury.

maybe a lack of oxygen during birth causes it? Im sure that happens in the animal world also.

blah blah blah blah blah.....


no, the fact of the matter is that homosexuality causes no injury, so when it is practiced between two consenting adults, its fine with me.


your other arguments about nature invole the killing or injury of another, so they would not be ok

and you have still shown nothing to indicate that it is a choice, just your opinion.

 

[PrchJrkr]

see, you are judging there, what if it was decided that being a christian was a bad choice, would it make it so?


just like you saying being gay is making a bad choice, most of the country does not agree.

I beg to differ. Please provide a link so we can see this for ourselves.

 

[Solja_Boy]

so then by your own admission it should be ok,, no it should be celebrated as a valid lifestyle for those that.

enjoy the occasional romp in the hay with the barn animals, as cross species sex is found in the animal kingdom,

This would still be illegal. The last time I checked the age of concent is 16-18depending on the state. Most animals do not live to be this old.

So if you deside to hump your dog you would be charged with statutory rape.

 

[tommyjones]

I beg to differ. Please provide a link so we can see this for ourselves.

just look at the laws there buddy. If most of the country found the lifestyle as repugnant as you the sodomy laws would still be on the books, gay marraige wouldn't be legal anywhere, the episcopal church wouldn't have accepted openly gay ministers, there wouldn't be laws regarding hate crimes against homosexuals etc etc etc

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

I don't like gay people and I have every rite to feel this way.

Why doesn't somone just create a group called the Gay Scouts. That would solve all of the problems.

Hate the sin and not the sinner...isn't that what is said....:shrug:

 

[ItalianScallion]

Nice discussion folks but overall, let's see some facts about the harm produced by the gay lifestyle: Briefly (paraphrased):
They live a shorter life than heterosexuals do; They average @37 years for men and @43 for the women.
While condoms can prevent most pregnancies (if they don't break), they do not prevent STD's because some of the viruses are smaller than the pores in the latex and some DO get through. Most gay men DON'T use them, however.
The younger they start, the more emotional damage that's done.
The number 1 testimony of folks who came out of the gay lifestyle was this: if they just had more parental approval (hugs, positive affirmation, attention from both parents) they, more than likely, would not have gone into that lifestyle. Even kids who came out of gangs say the same thing!
(Medical facts compiled by a Focus on the Family research group).
As stated earlier, God doesn't hate gays, many gays hate God because He is against their lifestyle choice. Jesus always healed the sick and disabled. This is where the Bible teaches that it is NOT a birth defect or hereditary. If it was, God would have cured them. Why did He destroy people of Sodom & Gomorrah? He told them to come out of their sinful lifestyle CHOICE and they refused. The same fate awaits those who refuse God's offer of salvation through Jesus. Don't say He hasn't give us plenty of warnings.

 

[tommyjones]

Nice discussion folks but overall, let's see some facts about the harm produced by the gay lifestyle: Briefly (paraphrased):
They live a shorter life than heterosexuals do; They average @37 years for men and @43 for the women.
While condoms can prevent most pregnancies (if they don't break), they do not prevent STD's because some of the viruses are smaller than the pores in the latex and some DO get through. Most gay men DON'T use them, however.
The younger they start, the more emotional damage that's done.
The number 1 testimony of folks who came out of the gay lifestyle was this: if they just had more parental approval (hugs, positive affirmation, attention from both parents) they, more than likely, would not have gone into that lifestyle. Even kids who came out of gangs say the same thing!
(Medical facts compiled by a Focus on the Family research group).
As stated earlier, God doesn't hate gays, many gays hate God because He is against their lifestyle choice. Jesus always healed the sick and disabled. This is where the Bible teaches that it is NOT a birth defect or hereditary. If it was, God would have cured them. Why did He destroy people of Sodom & Gomorrah? He told them to come out of their sinful lifestyle CHOICE and they refused. The same fate awaits those who refuse God's offer of salvation through Jesus. Don't say He hasn't give us plenty of warnings.

so he would cure you of gayness if he could, but he wont/cant save a child from lukemia??? WTF

 

[toppick08]

Nice discussion folks but overall, let's see some facts about the harm produced by the gay lifestyle: Briefly (paraphrased):
They live a shorter life than heterosexuals do; They average @37 years for men and @43 for the women.
While condoms can prevent most pregnancies (if they don't break), they do not prevent STD's because some of the viruses are smaller than the pores in the latex and some DO get through. Most gay men DON'T use them, however.
The younger they start, the more emotional damage that's done.
The number 1 testimony of folks who came out of the gay lifestyle was this: if they just had more parental approval (hugs, positive affirmation, attention from both parents) they, more than likely, would not have gone into that lifestyle. Even kids who came out of gangs say the same thing!
(Medical facts compiled by a Focus on the Family research group).
As stated earlier, God doesn't hate gays, many gays hate God because He is against their lifestyle choice. Jesus always healed the sick and disabled. This is where the Bible teaches that it is NOT a birth defect or hereditary. If it was, God would have cured them. Why did He destroy people of Sodom & Gomorrah? He told them to come out of their sinful lifestyle CHOICE and they refused. The same fate awaits those who refuse God's offer of salvation through Jesus. Don't say He hasn't give us plenty of warnings.

Notice how Xaquin44 bailed out on us?.....

 

[ItalianScallion]

so he would cure you of gayness if he could, but he wont/cant save a child from lukemia??? WTF

In some cases, YES. If I was gay and wanted out, God would probably help me come out. If I had a serious illness maybe He would cure me & maybe He wouldn't. I can't answer as to why God does it this way. Why He allows some things, and prevents others. (And He is under no obligation to tell me). I just know & trust that what He does is always right, even if I don't see the logic in it. I know some handicapped people who God hasn't cured because, in their present condition, they are an immense help to other handicapped folks. I wondered why God let me stay in my dangerous "life in the fast lane" for 17 years. (I was almost killed 4 times). I now realize that because of it, I am helping many many kids avoid what I went through. Father knows best and I am living proof.