BREAKING NEWS: Mt. Hood Search Ends

itsbob

I bowl overhand
bohman said:
At what point do you draw the line on acceptable risk? You DO have a member of your family that uses a riskier form of transportation than most of us. While I've gotten the impression that he takes steps to reduce the risk (ATGATT?) there are still plenty of people who would argue that the remaining risk is still unacceptable. No one NEEDS to ride a bike; it's done for self-gratification.*

*Disclaimer to all the riders on the board: No, I don't actually have a problem w/ motorcycles, nor do I consider it as dangerous as climbing Mt. Hood in the winter. Just playing devil's advocate. As a boater, I also participate in an activity that is often labeled dangerous and un-necessary.
You're mixing apples and oranges.. I go out to ride I do everything in my power to reduce risk to include not participating in practices that would make my riding any riskier.. what they did would be like me driving down 495 in rush hour, doing 80 miles an hour on one wheel, without a helmet, or riding gear, blind folded..
 
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BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
itsbob said:
I'm sorry, going up a mountain unprepared, in DECEMBER isn't heroic it's STUPID.. now if they tehmselves were up there trying to rescue some week-end climber and this happened THAT would be heroic, this whole climb had stupid written all over it when they got out of their car(s)
redskinfan is gonna be praying for your azz. :lmao:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
BS Gal said:
redskinfan is gonna be praying for your azz. :lmao:
Tell her not to waste her breath..

No prays are going to help me.

Wait, who is she praying to, Jesus or Simon??
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

New Member
<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY id=collapseobj_usercp_reputation><TR><TD class=alt2></TD><TD class=alt1Active id=p1846927 width="50%">BREAKING NEWS: Mt. Hood...</TD><TD class=alt2 noWrap>12-21-2006 02:18 PM</TD><TD class=alt1 width="50%">Look what you started you idiot.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Apparently, my posting of the link to the article is directly responsible for the opinions of other people. Man, I love having this kind of power - They don't have an opinion on ethical matters unless I post a link to an article.:lmao:
 
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY id=collapseobj_usercp_reputation><TR><TD class=alt2></TD><TD class=alt1Active id=p1846927 width="50%">BREAKING NEWS: Mt. Hood...</TD><TD class=alt2 noWrap>12-21-2006 02:18 PM</TD><TD class=alt1 width="50%">Look what you started you idiot.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Apparently, my posting of the link to the article is directly responsible for the opinions of other people. Man, I love having this kind of power - They don't have an opinion on ethical matters unless I post a link to an article.:lmao:
I think you are confusing having an opinion with stating it.
 

ItsGene

New Member
And the snow falls.

4 senseless deaths in Oregon because of poor decision making skills which are not uncommon when hypothermia and dehydration sets in. YOu can see the same behaviors in Nevada in July as east coasters traverse the great expanses of Nevada with insufficient water. They become confused and disoriented and will die if a more sane person does not intervene.

None of these four set out to die, no one ever does. It was just a combination of poor planning, not accumulating the right information before taking off and just plain bad luck.

Mt Hood was a beautiful white beacon set against a sunny blue sky when I was in Portland two weeks ago. That image would be very inviting to a climber. Unfortunately they either did not see the weather reports, or blew them off as incorrect when predictions were made that a 100 year storm was coming in from the southwest. Winds in Olympia peaked at 80 mph during that storm, in Vancouver they hit over 80 mph. On that mountain, I am certain they were well in excess of 100 mph when the three climbers realized they had made a very very serious mistake. those temperatures, blinding snow and sub zero temps will take the life right out of you if you do not move quickly to protect yourself.

I ride and accept the inherent risks. My wife refers to my hobby as my mistress. If I am not home, she knows I am out riding or in the garage getting the burgandy beauty ready to ride. She embraces my chosen hobby because it relieves the stresses of everyday life. Can I predict when an inattentive driver is goiing to make a left hand turn in front of me,...not really, but I do take as many precautions as I can to react and possibly prevent an accident should it occur. I travel as prepared as I can be and get off the road when conditions dictate I should, most of the time. There have been a few instances over the 30 years I have been riding when I evaluated the situation and made the conscious decision to continue when I probably should not have.

I know many that have had accidents and were busy working with insurance companies and replacing totalled bikes from hospital beds because they were consumed by this crazy sport. I do feel for the families, but I am sure, being from that part of the country, that these same families see this as an avoidable tragedy that was putting rescuers in harms way. The Air Force had their infrared heat seeking C-130 circling the mountain for days. The Blackhawk helicopters were up whenever weather allowed. A heroic effort was made, but in the end, Mt Hood claimed yet more unprepared victims.

There is a reason some mountains are closed to climbers during certain times of the year. The thrill of the sport overrides their ability to see the true risks.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
ItsGene said:
There have been a few instances over the 30 years I have been riding when I evaluated the situation and made the conscious decision to continue when I probably should not have.
THIRTY years riding experience?? IF I had started when I was like 12 maybe!!

*cue Hawaii 5-0 music*

"Book him Dano!!"

:yay:

My big brother turned 50 this month (the 5th to be exact) and I was lucky enough to have a trip planned out to Oregon shortly after the blessed event to take him out for his birthday dinner.

Lot of laughs, good times.. not enough of either between us over the years, being seperated by a this big country of ours, but glad I could make it out there, and possibly get another convert in the process.
 

meangirl

Nice lady!
itsbob said:
THIRTY years riding experience?? IF I had started when I was like 12 maybe!!

*cue Hawaii 5-0 music*

"Book him Dano!!"

:yay:

My big brother turned 50 this month (the 5th to be exact) and I was lucky enough to have a trip planned out to Oregon shortly after the blessed event to take him out for his birthday dinner.

Lot of laughs, good times.. not enough of either between us over the years, being seperated by a this big country of ours, but glad I could make it out there, and possibly get another convert in the process.

Could you tell your bro to break his post down into short little mini-paragraphs please? That's way too much to read at one time. :lol:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
meangirl said:
Could you tell your bro to break his post down into short little mini-paragraphs please? That's way too much to read at one time. :lol:
How many people do you know listen to their WAAAAAY younger brothers??

Ooops, forgot.. and better looking..
 
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Larry Gude

Strung Out
I'm bored this AM...

flomaster said:
How dare anyone say they loved their families less than there passion for what they do. Tell any one of our military members who love their country that they love their country more than family. They are there for love of country and to keep us arguing about what constitutes a tragedy or not. Go ahead and accuse them of not loving their families enough and being dumb azz'es for doing what they love. Those climbers were doing what they loved and it bit them. These things happen.

Rather die doing what I love than die at the hands of some drunk driver or teenager who is crusing down 235 at 100MPH plus.

God, I need a beer.


...so, here's my belated thoughts on this;

Putting your life at risk serving your nation is far, far above choosing to put your life at risk as a hobby, IMHO.
 
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