Bush finally concerned about Bin Laden.

[Ken King]

It's just that some people won't let the truth get in the way of what they want to believe. Even when confronted with evidence showing what's true, they refuse to accept it. Cognitive dissonance.

Yeah like no Democrat would ever say that marriage is to be only between a man and a woman, right? Oh wait, that was done back in 1996 wasn't it when 118 Democrats in the House and 32 Democrats in the Senate voted for HR-3396 and the Democrat President signed it into law.

 

[Kerad]

Yeah like no Democrat would ever say that marriage is to be only between a man and a woman, right? ...

Who claimed that?

 

[Ken King]

Who claimed that?

Not a claim, just a truth that makes your wimpering about Bush seeking an amendment moot.

 

[Xaquin44]

Seems to me, that this country has forgotten the terror of 9/11. They're fixing to elect a Muslim as President.

True insanity.

who?

none of the main contenders are muslim.

or were you just being a drama queen?

 

[Kerad]

Not a claim, just a truth that makes your wimpering about Bush seeking an amendment moot.

Not whimpering...merely pointing out that Bush indeed thinks about gay marriage, beyond just giving his opinion when asked. Nothing you've posted has refuted anything I claimed.


I'm surprised you don't know what whimpering is. Huh.

 

[Ken King]

Not whimpering...merely pointing out that Bush indeed thinks about gay marriage, beyond just giving his opinion when asked. Nothing you've posted has refuted anything I claimed.


I'm surprised you don't know what whimpering is. Huh.

You seem to think about them alot too.

And after reading your posts for almost three years I am learning.

 

[This_person]

Seriously. Besides publicly calling on Congress to pass a bill for an amendment banning gay marriage, what do you think he can do?

Here's the full list of the president's "Policies and Initiatives" that he focuses on:

Policies & Initiatives
Business & Economy
Budget Management
CAFTA-DR
Corporate Responsibility
Economy
Home Ownership
Medical Liability
Minority Entrepreneurship
Small Business
Tax Relief
Technology
Trade

Community
Disabilities
Faith-Based and Community Initiatives
Gulf Coast Rebuilding
Tsunami Relief
USA Freedom Corps

Education Education

Environment & Energy
Energy
Environment
Everglades
Healthy Forests
Hurricanes

Health & Well-being
Fitness
Health Care
HIV/AIDS
Medicare
Pandemic Flu
President's Malaria
Initiative
Welfare Reform

Foreign Affairs Afghanistan
Africa
European Union
Freedom Agenda
G8 Summit
Global Diplomacy
Iraq
Latin America
Middle East

National Security
Defense
Homeland Security
Immigration
Patriot Act
Project BioShield
National Security
Veterans

Nominations
Judicial Nominations

Retirement Retirement Security
Social Security
Social Security for Future Generations

Space Space Exploration​

I'm sure other things come up, but these are the things on HIS list. You can click on the link at the top, and that will take you to links for each subject. Please do.

Because, I went to most of them over time, and found nothing the president is doing regarding ending homosexual "marriages".


Meanwhile, in 2004 (the last time I can find where he even talked about it), he said:

Bush called for a civil debate on the controversial issue.

"We should also conduct this difficult debate in a matter worthy of our country, without bitterness or anger," he said. "In all that lies ahead, let us match strong convictions with kindness and good will and decency."

But Bush said the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act and laws banning same-sex marriage in 38 states "express an overwhelming consensus in our country for protecting the institution of marriage."

The Defense of Marriage Act, signed by President Clinton, prevents federal recognition of same-sex marriage, and allows states to ignore same-sex licenses from outside their borders.

"There is no assurance that the Defense of Marriage Act will not itself be struck down by activist courts," Bush said.

"In that event, every state would be forced to recognize any relationship that judges in Boston or officials in San Francisco choose to call a marriage."​

The bastard, calling for debate, and to have it be civil!

 

[Kerad]

Watch school house rock some time. You can learn a lot.

Doing something in the Senate would mean actually introducing a "bill." That is the first step in creating a "law."

That's kind of what Senators do if they actually want something passed.

What does the President do when he wants something passed?

 

[Larry Gude]

Same as...

What does the President do when he wants something passed?

...the rest of us; Lift a cheek.

 

[itsbob]

What does the President do when he wants something passed?

He would actively seek support from the Senate, and actually meet with Senators so one of them could presnt a bill on his behalf.

Has he done any of that?

 

[Kerad]

...

Because, I went to most of them over time, and found nothing the president is doing regarding ending homosexual "marriages".


Meanwhile, in 2004 (the last time I can find where he even talked about it), he said:

Bush called for a civil debate on the controversial issue.

"We should also conduct this difficult debate in a matter worthy of our country, without bitterness or anger," he said. "In all that lies ahead, let us match strong convictions with kindness and good will and decency."

But Bush said the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act and laws banning same-sex marriage in 38 states "express an overwhelming consensus in our country for protecting the institution of marriage."

The Defense of Marriage Act, signed by President Clinton, prevents federal recognition of same-sex marriage, and allows states to ignore same-sex licenses from outside their borders.

"There is no assurance that the Defense of Marriage Act will not itself be struck down by activist courts," Bush said.

"In that event, every state would be forced to recognize any relationship that judges in Boston or officials in San Francisco choose to call a marriage."​

The bastard, calling for debate, and to have it be civil!

And then there's this:
Bush defends call for gay marriage ban - Same-Sex Marriage - MSNBC.com

Calling marriage between men and women “the ideal,” President Bush on Friday defended his decision to seek a constitutional amendment outlawing gay weddings.

“I believed it was important to act because the institution of marriage was being changed by the courts,” Bush said during a White House appearance with German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder. “It’s an issue that’s very sensitive, and the voice of the people needed to be heard. And the constitutional process was the best way to do such.”

Along with this, from the same article:

But Bush stuck by his decision to seek the constitutional amendment.

“I believe marriage has served society well, and I believe it is important to affirm that — that marriage between a man and a woman is the ideal,” Bush said. “And the job of the president is to drive policy toward the ideal.”

So, yes...Bush considers it his job to drive this policy of restricting marriage to heterosexual couples only.


Somebody better call and tell him that's not on the list of his responsibilities.

 

[Kerad]

And after reading your posts for almost three years I am learning.

It's good to know that my time spent here dispensing wisdom and knowledge hasn't been completely wasted.

 

[Ken King]

It's good to know that my time spent here dispensing wisdom and knowledge hasn't been completely wasted.

Haven't seen that aspect yet, when does that start, so far it's been just the whimpering.

 

[Larry Gude]

Here's...

It's good to know that my time spent here dispensing wisdom and knowledge hasn't been completely wasted.

...your birthday present; Bush has expressed an interest in raping the constitution by supporting a constitutional ban on certain individual rights.

And he made a towering mistake not getting OBL early on.

 

[MMDad]

What does the President do when he wants something passed?

Educate yourself:


http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/howourlawsaremade.pdf

In modern times, the ‘‘executive communication’’ has become a
prolific source of legislative proposals. The communication is usually
in the form of a message or letter from a member of the President’s
Cabinet, the head of an independent agency, or the President
himself, transmitting a draft of a proposed bill to the Speaker
of the House of Representatives and the President of the Senate.

If the President has not passed a legislative proposal to Congress, how can you say he has taken any action to make the law?

 

[Toxick]

What does the President do when he wants something passed?

Executive Order.

 

[Kerad]

...your birthday present; Bush has expressed an interest in raping the constitution by supporting a constitutional ban on certain individual rights.

And he made a towering mistake not getting OBL early on.

Bush sure does give crappy presents!

 

[SamSpade]

And he made a towering mistake not getting OBL early on.

Yeah why did he do that? Let him get away, I mean?

 

[Toxick]

Yeah why did he do that? Let him get away, I mean?

I originally thought he was saving Bin Laden as an October Surprise in 2004.

 

[Kerad]

Haven't seen that aspect yet, when does that start, so far it's been just the whimpering.

It would behoove you to seek out a dictionary.

Oh.


I guess if you don't know what "whimpering" means, "behoove" is way out of your reach.


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