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Kinnakeet
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Heart attacks,car accidents normal flu,Obesity kill more people every day take off the mask its affecting you Is the Kung flu hurting people yes but we live with more dangerous crap than this virus everyday
I see there is a bit of a blowup over Stanford U's study showing that the infection rate may be 50 - 85 times higher than the official numbers.
If their numbers are so, and the majority of folks not getting much in the way of symptoms, this thing is very much less worrisome than seasonal flu.
If their numbers are so, and the majority of folks not getting much in the way of symptoms, this thing is very much less worrisome than seasonal flu.
LightRoasted
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Goldenhawk
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That was a pre-print, unreviewed paper, meaning it had not been vetted by other scientists in the field.
Followup analysis has shown that 50-80ish multiplier was VASTLY overstated by the original authors, due to sloppy statistical methods and poor sampling estimates, and they agreed to re-run their statistical analysis.
Experts demolish studies suggesting COVID-19 is no worse than flu
Authors of widely publicized antibody studies “owe us all an apology,” one expert says.
arstechnica.com
Concerns with that Stanford study of coronavirus prevalence « Statistical Modeling, Causal Inference, and Social Science
statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu
Feud over Stanford coronavirus study: ‘The authors owe us all an apology’
Did the COVID-19 virus infect between 48,000 and 81,000 residents of Santa Clara County? Not so quick, say statisticians, citing what they call deep flaws in a Stanford study.
www.mercurynews.com
Critics Say a Pair of California Antibody Studies Contain Critical Statistical Errors That Produced Implausible Results
Too many false positives, nonrandom study population, and infection fatality rates out of whack with other data, critics claim.
reason.com
How common is Covid-19? What 2 controversial antibody studies can and can’t tell us.
Why two California surveys caused an uproar among researchers.
I have read that a 10x multiplier was more reasonable, given the raw data that was readily available.
Unfortunately, the 50-80x number played into the media's hype machine, and so it got widely publicized and the refutation did not.
PeoplesElbow
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Those things dont cause meat packing plants to close or God forbid power plants. This isnt about saving lives but preserving the infrastructure.
What they are saying is this, we can't go back to the way things are until 68% of people on the planet have immunity from COVID-19.
Think about that, 2 thirds of the world population.
But they are telling us to isolate, social distance, stay at home. I don't have the latest numbers on infected in the US (positive test for antibody) but it's not even 10 percent, maybe 1 percent. 320M people (plus or minus ) in the US.
Now, let that sink in. Slow the curve, maybe in January there is a vaccine.
But when will it be ready and available?
How many anti-vaccers will refuse to take it?
Crank that into your Funkenwagnal and shake that magic 8 ball to see when we will hit herd immunity.
Anti-vaccers may have limited options: get the vaccine, take an antibody test proving they already had it (if that is also proven to make them both immune and incapable of carrying it), or staying isolated without government financial assistance.
Goldenhawk
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Herd Immunity Won't Save Us
If we cannot stop COVID-19, can we at least look forward to the point in time when we are all survivors of the disease, and presumably immune? It’s a tempting idea, but fatally flawed. Herd immunity can protect individuals, but it won’t keep a population safe from a disease that has no vaccine.
vitals.lifehacker.com
Louise
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I think WE all see what is happening. This is a power grab by the leapfrogs, Soroses, Gates, etal of the World. They need to know that it won’t be happenIn’. Just watched The Patriot with Mel Gibson tonight. I saw it 20 years ago but it is really eerie how the movie mirrors what WE are going through, now. Twenty years ago, I thought I was watching a well done movie about history. Oh wait, I get it. History is not taught in school, anymore. God bless the USA.
PeoplesElbow
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Don't you know Bill Gates mixed SARS with HIV?
They are a large enough nationwide group that they will get it tied up in court.
I don't think you can force them. What are schools doing with kids who haven't been inoculated for MMR?
They don't ask for proof of citizenship, do they? Do you think little Lupe comes with medical records and none other?
Plus, this is "The Woke Generation", no student (almost spelled that stupid) left behind. We can't exclude one person, let alone a minor group.
NorthBeachPerso
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Students who do not have the updated mandated vaccinations are given, rather their parents are, a couple chances to get them before they're excluded from school until they've got them. That is really a non-negotiable.
Now, there are exemptions for medical reasons (such as an allergy to the vaccine, that happened to two of my kids) or religious reasons. That's the sticky one but the way I understand it the religious exemption has to be denominational and not just the parent saying so.
A few (3/4) years before I retired the state did an enforcement in the Spring after spot checking school records. Fully one third of my 9th Graders were out for a shorter or longer period because of not having the records showing they were current.
The "New Americans" (I thought I'd remind you all of O'Malley) follow the same immunization rules as everybody else. Legals are usually fully up to date. Non-standard arrivals aren't because they have no records with them.
Now, there are exemptions for medical reasons (such as an allergy to the vaccine, that happened to two of my kids) or religious reasons. That's the sticky one but the way I understand it the religious exemption has to be denominational and not just the parent saying so.
A few (3/4) years before I retired the state did an enforcement in the Spring after spot checking school records. Fully one third of my 9th Graders were out for a shorter or longer period because of not having the records showing they were current.
The "New Americans" (I thought I'd remind you all of O'Malley) follow the same immunization rules as everybody else. Legals are usually fully up to date. Non-standard arrivals aren't because they have no records with them.
Kinnakeet
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If the media never made such a big deal out of this everything would be fine its all BS