UglyBear
Well-Known Member
Ah, I see Sir is a connoisseur of the leaf crap cleanup! Would you also have a preference for the leaf type?
(I honestly never thought about that -- thank you!)
Calvert County
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(I honestly never thought about that -- thank you!)
Goldenhawk
Well-Known Member
Well, if you can find them, as they do grow wild, the mullien plant is the Charmin of butt-wiping leaves.
No Shopping Day Restrictions in Calvert County
Uh - yeah.
More like a lot of citizens were contacting them and voicing their opinions and concerns. #oneofthosepeople
The ape was a great big hit!
PeoplesElbow
Well-Known Member
Just some liberty loving citizens
www.cecildaily.com
Two Calvert residents accused of violating emergency order in St. Mary's
Criminal summonses issued to two Lusby women opened the first formal cases in St. Mary’s of individuals accused of violating the governor’s orders restricting nonessential travel amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
Scat
Well-Known Member
Damn, none of the people getting "caught" are the sort of people you would want to stand behind. Police sure are good at racking up charges hoping something "sticks" though.Just some liberty loving citizens
Two Calvert residents accused of violating emergency order in St. Mary's
Criminal summonses issued to two Lusby women opened the first formal cases in St. Mary’s of individuals accused of violating the governor’s orders restricting nonessential travel amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
NorthBeachPerso
Honorary SMIB
Here's the bottom line when all the jokes (yes, I'm guilty of that) are done and the sovereign citizen crap some of you spew (newsflash: Yes the Governor can declare a State of Emergency and confine people to their homes-what do some of you think a Quarantine is? Or the regulations governing a Snow Emergency Route are?) is over:
The Calvert County Health Department was absolutely irresponsible yesterday with that announcement. What you never do in an emergency is panic people and that is exactly what they did. Once it broke the stores were inundated with people and cleaned out. Again. Just when things were starting to get back to normal they're back to where they were for the last three weeks-empty shelves and a supply chain that can't keep them stocked.
And something the current Democratic Board of County Commissioners in Prince Frederick (if you object to my calling them Democrats do some research) need to know- they have no authority over the Calvert County Health Department in anything because it's STATE agency.
The Calvert County Health Department was absolutely irresponsible yesterday with that announcement. What you never do in an emergency is panic people and that is exactly what they did. Once it broke the stores were inundated with people and cleaned out. Again. Just when things were starting to get back to normal they're back to where they were for the last three weeks-empty shelves and a supply chain that can't keep them stocked.
And something the current Democratic Board of County Commissioners in Prince Frederick (if you object to my calling them Democrats do some research) need to know- they have no authority over the Calvert County Health Department in anything because it's STATE agency.
I don't disagree with you on any of this. I know that the Governor can declare a State of Emergency (I don't particularly like that, but I know that he can do it and you're right -they do it for events like snow emergencies, floodings, or other naturual disasters, etc. )
I wholeheartedly agree with you about the 2nd paragraph. With regard to the Board of County Commissioners - they are so inept it is downright maddening. The only ones worth their salt are Buddy Hance & Steve Weems.
TheRadargod
Active Member
How are the shoplifting criminals being charged as "travel order violators"? They are shoplifting criminals pure and simple. A crime is a crime no matter if its under a people control lockdown.
Goldenhawk
Well-Known Member
Let's talk for a moment about our rights.
Excerpted from the Baltimore Sun on April 6 (it's paywalled so I'm copying the relevant text here):
In the Maryland Constitution, which established the duties and powers and limitations of the Executive Branch (i.e. the governor), is this language:
In a nutshell, the Governor's actions are specifically authorized by the Maryland State Constitution, but he must submit these orders to the General Assembly, which may choose to refute them or allow them to become law.
Furthermore, the United States Constitution explicitly leaves many powers up to the individual states and their own constitutions. Consider also that United States law explicitly gives certain powers to certain federal agencies. Some but not all of those powers have been tested and found Constitutional.
Here's what the CDC - which is sensitive about this very discussion - says about its powers:
www.cdc.gov
www.cdc.gov
www.cdc.gov
A counterpoint:
freebeacon.com
A prescient article from 2016, when the Ebola scare was big:
www.theatlantic.com
It appears to me, based on these facts, that these recent orders have the proper force of law and have not been found to be unconstitutional.
The changes put in place by Executive Order may be distasteful to some, but our deeply-cherished sense of "I can do whatever I want and nobody can tell me otherwise" is not actually correct. Ultimately, we each have the right to leave the state (or even the nation) if we don't consider its laws (including the President's and Governor's various Executive Orders) to fit our personal desire of how we should be governed. Consider that those in China have no such right; your ultimate liberty is not yet risked.
If you disagree with the Governor's actions, by all means write or call your representatives and ask them to quickly meet and reject these actions. (I don't suspect you'll find many sympathetic ears under the circumstances, however.)
If you disagree with the CDC's interpretation of the US Constitution and federal law, or that the State has violated your US Constitutional rights, please contact your US representatives or the United States Attorney General, and ask them to pursue legal action against the state or the CDC. (Again, I doubt you'll be listened to favorably, at least unless the lockdowns get far worse - which according to tonight's presidential address, will NOT be the case.)
Simply crying on a local forum or Facebook that "muh rights is bein' violated" does nothing helpful in these cases.
Excerpted from the Baltimore Sun on April 6 (it's paywalled so I'm copying the relevant text here):
In the Maryland Constitution, which established the duties and powers and limitations of the Executive Branch (i.e. the governor), is this language:
In a nutshell, the Governor's actions are specifically authorized by the Maryland State Constitution, but he must submit these orders to the General Assembly, which may choose to refute them or allow them to become law.
Furthermore, the United States Constitution explicitly leaves many powers up to the individual states and their own constitutions. Consider also that United States law explicitly gives certain powers to certain federal agencies. Some but not all of those powers have been tested and found Constitutional.
Here's what the CDC - which is sensitive about this very discussion - says about its powers:
Legal Authorities for Isolation and Quarantine | Quarantine | CDC
Isolation and quarantine help protect the public by preventing exposure to people who have or may have a contagious disease. Page content includes the regulatory authority and definitions of isolation and quarantine.
Specific Laws and Regulations Governing the Control of Communicable Diseases | Quarantine | CDC
The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services has statutory responsibility for preventing the introduction, transmission, and spread of communicable diseases in the United States.
Legal Considerations | Epidemic Intelligence Service | CDC
This chapter provides an overview of legal considerations relating to field epidemiology and, more specifically, epidemiologic investigations.
A counterpoint:
Coronavirus Tests Limits of the Constitution, Federal Power
The unprecedented steps government leaders are taking to contain the coronavirus may raise thorny legal questions for U.S. courts.
freebeacon.com
The CDC’s New Quarantine Rule Could Violate Civil Liberties
The proposed regulation could be used to detain people without sufficient due process, or examine them without informed consent.
www.theatlantic.com
It appears to me, based on these facts, that these recent orders have the proper force of law and have not been found to be unconstitutional.
The changes put in place by Executive Order may be distasteful to some, but our deeply-cherished sense of "I can do whatever I want and nobody can tell me otherwise" is not actually correct. Ultimately, we each have the right to leave the state (or even the nation) if we don't consider its laws (including the President's and Governor's various Executive Orders) to fit our personal desire of how we should be governed. Consider that those in China have no such right; your ultimate liberty is not yet risked.
If you disagree with the Governor's actions, by all means write or call your representatives and ask them to quickly meet and reject these actions. (I don't suspect you'll find many sympathetic ears under the circumstances, however.)
If you disagree with the CDC's interpretation of the US Constitution and federal law, or that the State has violated your US Constitutional rights, please contact your US representatives or the United States Attorney General, and ask them to pursue legal action against the state or the CDC. (Again, I doubt you'll be listened to favorably, at least unless the lockdowns get far worse - which according to tonight's presidential address, will NOT be the case.)
Simply crying on a local forum or Facebook that "muh rights is bein' violated" does nothing helpful in these cases.
LightRoasted
If I may ...
If I may ...
The CDC is a private corporation. Also known as a NGO, (Non-governmental organization). What they say doesn't mean squat. It is we the people that say what is happening is BS. God damn you are so clueless.
Goldenhawk
Well-Known Member
Yes you may.... show your own cluelessness, that is.
A few minutes of research might help, starting with the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR). Yes, the CDC is a nonprofit private organization, but its rulemaking is enshrined in federal law. Like it or not, what the CDC says does "mean squat," and as a citizen of the United States you are obligated to its decisions.
For a single relevant and very simple example, consider the CFR Title 42 → Chapter I → Subchapter F → Part 70
§70.2 Measures in the event of inadequate local control.
Whenever the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention determines that the measures taken by health authorities of any State or possession (including political subdivisions thereof) are insufficient to prevent the spread of any of the communicable diseases from such State or possession to any other State or possession, he/she may take such measures to prevent such spread of the diseases as he/she deems reasonably necessary, including inspection, fumigation, disinfection, sanitation, pest extermination, and destruction of animals or articles believed to be sources of infection.
You may wish to read the rest of that page, as it's all relevant.
Kinnakeet
Well-Known Member
There is no way that this is legal in the USA!!Calvert County Health Department Assigns Residents Shopping Days to Combat Coronavirus
Calvert County Health Department Assigns Residents Shopping Days to Combat Coronavirus | Southern Maryland News Net
For your health, the health of your family members, and the safety of all those in our community, the health department asks that you voluntarily limit trips for groceries to once every 5 days on the following schedule:smnewsnet.com
Kinnakeet
Well-Known Member
I say F(%K em the politicians are going to get a revolt sooner or later and I assume it wont be pretty just look at Michigan people are starting to get tired of this corna Wuhan flu BS!
PeoplesElbow
Well-Known Member
You are late to the party, they already rescinded that.
RareBreed
Throwing the deuces
They have already back-tracked on that and said there are no restrictions on shoppers. It was merely a suggestion to help with the amount of people in stores.
Kinnakeet
Well-Known Member
ALL OF THIS FLU BS IS A POWER GRABYes you may.... show your own cluelessness, that is.
A few minutes of research might help, starting with the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR). Yes, the CDC is a nonprofit private organization, but its rulemaking is enshrined in federal law. Like it or not, what the CDC says does "mean squat," and as a citizen of the United States you are obligated to its decisions.
For a single relevant and very simple example, consider the CFR Title 42 → Chapter I → Subchapter F → Part 70
§70.2 Measures in the event of inadequate local control.
Whenever the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention determines that the measures taken by health authorities of any State or possession (including political subdivisions thereof) are insufficient to prevent the spread of any of the communicable diseases from such State or possession to any other State or possession, he/she may take such measures to prevent such spread of the diseases as he/she deems reasonably necessary, including inspection, fumigation, disinfection, sanitation, pest extermination, and destruction of animals or articles believed to be sources of infection.
You may wish to read the rest of that page, as it's all relevant.
Kinnakeet
Well-Known Member
I see that now yesterday I had meetings and needed a break from this BS...Im telling you this is nothing more than a power grab by the establishment this flu shite is no more dangerous than anything else floating around out in the air and as you can see the media has tremendous power! to make all the sheep believe their hype!!!