Local Business Charlotte Hall- Do you want them to build apartments there???

[fatratcat]

Wrong on all counts...cold guessing. You're as bad at mind reading as you are giving advice to communities you don't live in. As much as I enjoy our little back and forth, I'm gonna move on you're boring me.

 

[Gilligan]

Which one 'bout killed you? Was it the bait/tackle store and having to listen to everyone's fish stories?

It was the totality of it. So many different cost centers to try and make work..any one of which would be enough headaches for one person. The general store was one of the easier to deal with actually, although did have an employee rip off 5 to 6 grand from the Keno system and get away with it..

The bar and the rentals and hotel were definitely the biggest sources of aggravation and the most work. The restaurant too, although I had quickly decided to lease that out after less than a year of trying to manage it myself.

 

[BernieP]

So a typical response from someone who doesn't seem to remember what he says from one day to another.

If you weren't so full of #### no one would pay any attention to you but every statement you make proves you don't know your head from a hole in the ground despite being corrected in your incorrect beliefs and statements by me among multitudes of others.

As for me, I'm done engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Stick that in your blue ocean.

You're a fed, right? No goddam wonder things are so ####ed up if you're an example of critical thinking and understanding. But you're not, so that's a plus.

I'll tell you what he sounds like, a racist, bigoted, elitist jackass. FWIW I heard recently that St. Mary's County has the higher percentage of trailer parks in the state.
But that doesn't matter. If that developer wants to really shove it up the County's collective butt, it will put together a plan for the trashiest, lowest income housing project it can come up with. Then call the county exclusionary and take them to court - federal court. Oh and along the way file a complaint with the civil rights division of the US Dept of Justice.
That's not a work of fiction, it's been done in a number of communities that were "exclusive" and where developers looked to turn a profit

 

[dixiepeach]

It's 48 apartments. That's not that many. My neighbor works for Long and Foster Real Estate. They say it's not going to affect property values. Everyone needs to calm down. 48 apartments isn't that many.

 

[glhs837]

It's 48 apartments. That's not that many. My neighbor works for Long and Foster Real Estate. They say it's not going to affect property values. Everyone needs to calm down. 48 apartments isn't that many.

But that's 48 welfarebabymamaganstaboyfriendhaving people FCRT doesn't want in his slice of paradise

 

[dixiepeach]

But that's 48 welfarebabymamaganstaboyfriendhaving people FCRT doesn't want in his slice of paradise

My neighbor said most will be for the elderly.

 

[fatratcat]

I'll tell you what he sounds like, a racist, bigoted, elitist jackass. FWIW I heard recently that St. Mary's County has the higher percentage of trailer parks in the state.
But that doesn't matter. If that developer wants to really shove it up the County's collective butt, it will put together a plan for the trashiest, lowest income housing project it can come up with. Then call the county exclusionary and take them to court - federal court. Oh and along the way file a complaint with the civil rights division of the US Dept of Justice.
That's not a work of fiction, it's been done in a number of communities that were "exclusive" and where developers looked to turn a profit

That's it? All you got? You just started naming every word that you could think of that ends in "ist" like an idiot savant? No on all accounts charged, except for "elitist." That's true as hell. I love winners. Except for you, who doesn't? Average and less than average suck, but you would know that waaay better than me. After all, you hate elitists. Looks like you got an awful lot of "quit" in you! The hypothetical you paint is full of anxiety. The civil rights division of the DOJ? Hahahaha! Federal court? I sure hope you're not a lawyer, because you're all defense. Defense never scores. As for the 48 apartments, I'm not opposed if it's a 55 plus community. In fact, I'd welcome it. I remain opposed if it's targeted for low incomes. I'll wait for the meeting and see what the facts are.

 

[fatratcat]

But that's 48 welfarebabymamaganstaboyfriendhaving people FCRT doesn't want in his slice of paradise

Are you offering them a place in your neighborhood?

 

[glhs837]

Are you offering them a place in your neighborhood?

Well, no, because I dont live in a development district. But I lived for years on Cabot Place in Lexington Park and for years after that on Chancellors Run. Get along fine with the folks who live in the trailer park behind Cooks. Folks with lower incomes need decent places to live. Not everybody with less money than you is a criminal.

 

[fatratcat]

Well, no, because I dont live in a development district. But I lived for years on Cabot Place in Lexington Park and for years after that on Chancellors Run. Get along fine with the folks who live in the trailer park behind Cooks. Folks with lower incomes need decent places to live. Not everybody with less money than you is a criminal.

I actually lived in housing projects, apartments, and trailers from birth until I was 17 years old in a single parent household. That's enough sharing for today. I agree that poor does not equate to criminal. However, a concentration of poverty and boredom does create criminality. Hands down, it's indisputable. Devil and idle hands...Examples, include the old Sheridan Terrace in DC and Cabrini Green projects in Chicago. I earned my way out with some help from a rich uncle that sent me to college in exchange for a few years of my time. So, I have ZERO interest in rolling backwards.

Like joining most gangs, my uncles only requirement was for me to be a able to kill anyone he asked me to without much questioning. Relax, I'm talking about skills related to the infantry branch and other specialties For other readers of the forum, I was an elitest when in came to that too. Let's just say I was in a program that was very selective. In fact, it was a downright EXCLUSIONARY place where 2nd place remains the 1st loser. No medals for mere participation.

Back to the question about the apartments, I think a 55 y/o plus community is fine. No beef from me. It'll bolster my argument for a septic system and nice retail and restaurant space. I remain steadfast that a concentration of low income apartments in an area where any job not requiring a car will be minimum wage is a mistake. CH is 25 miles from any hospital, nice retail, or sitdown restaurants. Basically, without a car, people are stranded in the middle of nowhere with a lot of time on their hands. Never a good thing. I'll take a knee until we know whatthe facts are.

 

[awpitt]

But that's 48 welfarebabymamaganstaboyfriendhaving people FCRT doesn't want in his slice of paradise

You are so uneducated. You automatically assume that apartments are for what you incorrectly describe. Have you ever heard of affordable housing for working people. Hell, I spent plenty of time living in apartments when I was in the Navy. I have young friends and relatives who live in apartment. Good people.

 

[glhs837]

Well, no, because I dont live in a development district. But I lived for years on Cabot Place in Lexington Park and for years after that on Chancellors Run. Get along fine with the folks who live in the trailer park behind Cooks. Folks with lower incomes need decent places to live. Not everybody with less money than you is a criminal.

You are so uneducated. You automatically assume that apartments are for what you incorrectly describe. Have you ever heard of affordable housing for working people. Hell, I spent plenty of time living in apartments when I was in the Navy. I have young friends and relatives who live in apartment. Good people.

So, you missed that bit above in your rush to judge, eh? That's okay My point was yours exactly, that FCRT assumes that apartments automatically means "a concentration of poverty" which leads to "boredom does create criminality." Which I disagree with. 48 apartments today might mean that CH in some future year looks like Missouri Ave in Lexington Park, but that's far enough off that his grandkids might have to move away

 

[awpitt]

So, you missed that bit above in your rush to judge, eh? That's okay My point was yours exactly, that FCRT assumes that apartments automatically means "a concentration of poverty" which leads to "boredom does create criminality." Which I disagree with. 48 apartments today might mean that CH in some future year looks like Missouri Ave in Lexington Park, but that's far enough off that his grandkids might have to move away

I misunderstood you. Sorry about that.

 

[BernieP]

So, you missed that bit above in your rush to judge, eh? That's okay My point was yours exactly, that FCRT assumes that apartments automatically means "a concentration of poverty" which leads to "boredom does create criminality." Which I disagree with. 48 apartments today might mean that CH in some future year looks like Missouri Ave in Lexington Park, but that's far enough off that his grandkids might have to move away

The apartments in Wildewood put a whole new spin on "affordable housing"

 

[fatratcat]

So, we can build 48 apartments, but can't build any restaurants other than fast food? Again, race to the bottom much?

 

[awpitt]

So, we can build 48 apartments, but can't build any restaurants other than fast food? Again, race to the bottom much?

If you want a restaurant and have a cool idea for one, go out and make happen. Don't expect someone else to always build what you want.

 

[BernieP]

So, we can build 48 apartments, but can't build any restaurants other than fast food? Again, race to the bottom much?

if you own the property you can apply for a permit to do what you want.

Bottom line, the person is going to build apartments because they believe they can make a profit doing so.
Frankly fast food restaurants seem to do better than upscale dining in St. Mary's County.
Get over yourself.

 

[dixiepeach]

You want a restaurant???? Take out a loan and built one.

 

[NorthBeachPerso]

There's money out there for senior apartments. There's money out there for low/moderate income apaetments (sometimes the low/mod and senior housing merges). There's money out there for high end luxury apartments.

There isn't a whole lot of money out there to build market rate apartments, or any market rate housing for that matter. One if the reasons is that property values for raw land are so high as well as site prep costs. That's why you see many jurisdictions requiring developers to build a certain amount of market rate housing in exchange for higher density.

As a note, a median family income of $51K isn't particularly high for this area. It's only a few thousand above the kids being eligible for Free And Reduced Meals at school. Which also can explain why fast food instead of fine dining is more successful as well a the mix of other retail.

 

[glhs837]

So, we can build 48 apartments, but can't build any restaurants other than fast food? Again, race to the bottom much?

To misquote Tonto, "What do you mean, 'we', white man?" Anyone can build anything, and they want to build a 48 unit apartment. Anyone else is free to build a restaurant.