COVID-19
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luvmygdaughters
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Media driven pan-epidemic hysteria!!
itsbob
I bowl overhand
Media and the Liberals have been looking for a way to destroy our economy for 3 years, they found their tool, and they are hitting it hard.
There really is nothing to be afraid of, or concerned about, but build up the hype.. and there goes our economy down the toilet.
Democrats, and the Media are not going to let up until November, they don't care how much it hurts us or our country if it increases their chances of wining back the White House.
Moron..
Moron..
Moron..
There really is nothing to be afraid of, or concerned about, but build up the hype.. and there goes our economy down the toilet.
Democrats, and the Media are not going to let up until November, they don't care how much it hurts us or our country if it increases their chances of wining back the White House.
Moron..
Moron..
Moron..
Stjohns3269
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Yeah. It's amazing those democrats managed to get the entire country of Italy shut down as well as parts of China all to make Trump look bad.
I wouldn't be surprised if other countries join in too. Its just so unfair to poor Trump. He has spent so much time golfing and at his hotel all for us little people.
All the good stuff that happened for my 401K before last month was all due to Trump. But everything since then is not his fault. He's just the president. He has no control over anything.
I wouldn't be surprised if other countries join in too. Its just so unfair to poor Trump. He has spent so much time golfing and at his hotel all for us little people.
All the good stuff that happened for my 401K before last month was all due to Trump. But everything since then is not his fault. He's just the president. He has no control over anything.
SamSpade
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While Iran, South Korea and Western Europe are doing just fine.
What it means is, Italy - unsurprisingly - has poor means to control the spread of what is no worse than a FLU virus.
I can't wait to see them shut down over a case of pink eye.
Yes, evidently all the times Obama spent golfing and shooting hoops didn't bother anyone. What a seriously stupid-assed observation. He's been on this non-stop. Remember it was the Democrats who opposed his initial efforts to halt entrance into this country from China and other affected areas.
Really? I thought all the good stuff was Obama's work. But the markets tanking over an oil war and the coronavirus - it's impossible to lay that at the feet of anyone.
But I've said before - a month or two, this is all over.
I've been reading this forum on and off for a while, but never posted. This thread though I think requires input. The general reaction here is hard for me to comprehend. Media hysteria? Democrats having any influence in China? Seriously.
Yes, for babies through middle age, COVID-19 is not a big deal. That is not the case though for older people or those of any age with serious previous conditions. 15% chance of death for people over 80. 8% chance of death 70-79. Those figures are way higher than the same age groups compared to the flu. Here are statistics from the CDC, see the plot near the bottom that compares flu and COVID-19: https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-compared-to-flu-mortality-rates-2020-3
Beyond the danger to these demographics, the point of containing it now is to prevent it coming back every year. If it doesn't die out now, then this will just be part of human life every year, causing many otherwise preventable deaths in the future.
Attempting to contain this is definitely warranted. We don't need a serious virus infecting people for the foreseeable future which kills at a much higher rate than the flu. Why wouldn't you agree with prevention and containment? It doesn't make sense. This is not political or an attention grab for advertising dollars.
Yes, for babies through middle age, COVID-19 is not a big deal. That is not the case though for older people or those of any age with serious previous conditions. 15% chance of death for people over 80. 8% chance of death 70-79. Those figures are way higher than the same age groups compared to the flu. Here are statistics from the CDC, see the plot near the bottom that compares flu and COVID-19: https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-compared-to-flu-mortality-rates-2020-3
Beyond the danger to these demographics, the point of containing it now is to prevent it coming back every year. If it doesn't die out now, then this will just be part of human life every year, causing many otherwise preventable deaths in the future.
Attempting to contain this is definitely warranted. We don't need a serious virus infecting people for the foreseeable future which kills at a much higher rate than the flu. Why wouldn't you agree with prevention and containment? It doesn't make sense. This is not political or an attention grab for advertising dollars.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
But it has come back every year, and will continue to come back every year.. next year it will be COVID 20.. or SARS 2..
Just like the flu, Corona Virus returns pretty regularly..
2nd, there is absolutely no proof that Corona xx, kills at any higher rate than the flu, none.
In fact, like the flu, the majority of those that get Corona, will self treat, stay at home 2 or 3 days, and be recovered without any intervention, and never knowing that have it. With that being said, if say 80% of those inflicted don't seek medical intervention, there is no way to calculate a morbidity rate.
Safe practices like.. HEY, I'm sick.. I'm going to stay home, tell my grandkids to say away for a few days, and I'm not going to visit my parents at their nursing home.. would work wonders.
Coronavirus is a family of viruses. They even include the common cold. So the cold is also the same thing as the flu to you? This is a new strain which is hitting harder than the flu strains. It is not the same. Source below.
https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus
https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus
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luvmygdaughters
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If it doesn't die out now, then this will just be part of human life every year, causing many otherwise preventable deaths in the future.
Yep, just like the flu, opiate overdoses, car accidents, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc. There is always something killing us. Remember when Ebola was brought to this country, on Obama's watch? Or what about the Swine Flu, that was supposed to wipe us all out, then there was SARS, etc.
15% chance of death for people over 80
Honestly, if you're over 80, that's pretty good odds I'd say.
Yep, just like the flu, opiate overdoses, car accidents, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc. There is always something killing us. Remember when Ebola was brought to this country, on Obama's watch? Or what about the Swine Flu, that was supposed to wipe us all out, then there was SARS, etc.
15% chance of death for people over 80
Honestly, if you're over 80, that's pretty good odds I'd say.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
Clem72
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itsbob
I bowl overhand
Simple statistics tell you there is no value to the charts, sample size for COVID-19 is too small to even compare the two.
Just like there is no value to this chart printed in Forbes about a month ago.. how did their predictions pan out??
But these charts and others like them is what is causing all the hysteria and panic.. they're all pure BS.
Moron..
Moron..
Moron..
To be fair, they would have to be of the same sample size. You'd also have to remove from your sample anyone with underlying health issues..
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itsbob
I bowl overhand
AND just to be clear.. we are at or beyond "45 DAYS!!"..
So either the charts are pure BULLSHIT.. or Trump and Pence are geniuses and have saved us all!!
Stjohns3269
Active Member
"Its their new hoax" " I didnt know people died from the flu" " Why can't we just use the Flu vaccine"
These are actual quotes from Trump. You think that is being "all over this"? He is a moron He has been golfing at Mar-a- lago for 7 days.
This sis more dangerous than the FLU. Stop repeating lies. The mortality rate is higher and we have no immunity and no known vaccine. If this gets into nursing homes and hospitals it will be difficult to contain and those are the people most vulnerable.
No one is saying everyone is going to die from this but to keep repeating the lies Trump is telling you in his ham fisted attempt to contain the markets is irresponsible
Stjohns3269
Active Member
Thank you for your first post and rational assessment of the situation.
To see MAGA"TS turning this into one more political disagreement is truly shameful.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
The chart I posted tells a different story, and also belies the fact that what the US did, what Trump did worked.
Or is there a secret stash of dead bodies nobody knows about??
itsbob
I bowl overhand
Actually you not giving Trump credit for saving 52 Million lives, while telling us all how dangerous the virus is as actually disingenuous.
You can't say one, without giving Trump credit for the other.
Stjohns3269
Active Member
What nonsense are you talking about
What did Trump do that "worked"? Nothing
I didnt see where they announced the virus was eradicated.
Stjohns3269
Active Member
When did he save a single life ?
" It's their new hoax"
" I didnt know people died from the Flu"
Thats the guy you think has an understanding of immunology, virology and how to contain an outbreak?
The idiot flew on a plane with someone who had possible exposure.