Debate

[SingerLady]

Don't forget those ones that lead to divorce/suicide/etc because one of the parents can't/won't deal with the increased stress, among other things

sooo right. It, in many cases is to much for a family to handle let alone some one who ends up doing it alone.

 

[vraiblonde]

Don't forget those ones that lead to divorce/suicide/etc because one of the parents can't/won't deal with the increased stress, among other things

Who? Any names? I know people personally who have a handicapped child and are doing just fine. But I will defer to your superior experience and knowledge.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

But the end result is the same. Also, Hawking's biggest achievements came *after* the disease started taking its toll. He was diagnosed in his early 20s.

Someone living 18+ years of their life w/o illness, then being diagnosed, cannot be compared to someone who will be mentally/physically lacking, their entire life. One learns things, and then loses mobility and some brain function, while the other lives with the mind of an infant/toddler/etc, their entire life.

It's not even close to the same thing :shrug:

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

Who? Any names? I know people personally who have a handicapped child and are doing just fine. But I will defer to your superior experience and knowledge.

because you know some folks who worked out just fine, means that everyone in that situation does?
I've seen people both grow closer, having a handicapped child, and those who fall apart because of it
It's certainly not something that everyone can deal with, and I give those folks who do deal with it a ton of credit, but looking past the fact that a number of couples seperate because of a handicapped child is foolish.

 

[vraiblonde]

Regardless, I think of this scenario as I think of any abortion scenario: anyone who has an abortion probably made the right choice. Any man or woman who would have their child carved up and thrown in the trash wouldn't make much of a parent. So they might as well get it over with instead of making the child suffer through years of abuse or neglect.

 

[SingerLady]

Regardless, I think of this scenario as I think of any abortion scenario: anyone who has an abortion probably made the right choice. Any man or woman who would have their child carved up and thrown in the trash wouldn't make much of a parent. So they might as well get it over with instead of making the child suffer through years of abuse or neglect.

And what if a person who decided to have an abortion already has a child and is a great parent?

 

[kom526]

So it's ok to abort a child that may be handicapped in some way because of some test that is not 100% effective? Hell, why don't you just throw the baby in a bag and toss them into the river.

Just say you are having an abortion because you're not responsible enough, no money, etc. do not try and excuse your decision by saying the test came back positive for Down's.

 

[vraiblonde]

And what if a person who decided to have an abortion already has a child and is a great parent?

Those are two mutually exclusive situations. You are either a great parent, or you would have your baby chopped into pieces, sucked out of your womb, and thrown in the trash. It can't be both. Sorry.

 

[SingerLady]

Those are two mutually exclusive situations. You are either a great parent, or you would have your baby chopped into pieces, sucked out of your womb, and thrown in the trash. It can't be both. Sorry.

Oh okay...

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

Those are two mutually exclusive situations. You are either a great parent, or you would have your baby chopped into pieces, sucked out of your womb, and thrown in the trash. It can't be both. Sorry.

Oh okay...

Don't you love the open-mindedness?

 

[punjabigyrl]

A while ago there was a thread on abortion, about how far along was too late. Well what if you found out that your baby would be forever handicapped? Would you go forward with the abortion or have the child? And again, whats the furthest in the pregnancy you would have the procedure? I'm just trying to get different peoples views.

In my opinion, I would have an abortion. I am not be prepared to take of of the little being with all the disablitieshe/she would have. The financial, physical and emaotional toll on you and your family.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

In my opinion, I would have an abortion. I am not be prepared to take of of the little being with all the disablitieshe/she would have. The financial, physical and emaotional toll on you and your family.

It doesn't cause an emotional toll...just ask Vrai

 

[SingerLady]

Don't you love the open-mindedness?

Really............I mean thats like saying someone who is already a parent and a good one at that. Is a shiatty parent because they had an abortion. What about a person who is in high school and was stupid and had sex, got preggo and her parents forced her into having an abortion? What if later in life she decides to have a child, is she gonna be shiatty parent? I mean come on...

 

[SingerLady]

In my opinion, I would have an abortion. I am not be prepared to take of of the little being with all the disablitieshe/she would have. The financial, physical and emaotional toll on you and your family.

I feel the same way. Unless one is able and ready to take on a circumstance like that.

 

[misshelper]

This is why I never had that test done. The test can be right and the test can be wrong. So you abort a baby you think will have something wrong with it, but who really knows. Or the tests come back normal and you give birth to a baby with problems, then what?

 

[Cowgirl]

This isn't exactly the same, but D went to high school with a girl who had a stroke when she was 17 or 18. She had to go through some therapy, and now she has the mental capacity of a 10-12 yr old. Her parents disowned her and now she is being raised by her aunt and uncle. It's one thing to have an abortion if you know your baby will have some kind of handicap, but to disown your almost-adult child because she had a stroke? Awful. AND they have a son and he rarely sees his sister either.

 

[kom526]

So it's ok to abort a child that may be handicapped in some way because of some test that is not 100% effective? Hell, why don't you just throw the baby in a bag and toss them into the river.

Just say you are having an abortion because you're not responsible enough, no money, etc. do not try and excuse your decision by saying the test came back positive for Down's.

This is why I never had that test done. The test can be right and the test can be wrong. So you abort a baby you think will have something wrong with it, but who really knows. Or the tests come back normal and you give birth to a baby with problems, then what?

Yep, like I said...

 

[misshelper]

Yep, like I said...

I don't know about anyone else, but I love my kids whether they are normal or not.

 

[happyappygirl]

I think it depends on the situation. We had 4 healthy great kids, and i was (well) over 35 when i got preggo with our 5th (by choice). We had discussed it prior to getting preggo with our OB because of my age, then with each other, and found, surprisingly, that we agreed. If the child were handicapped in some major way that would impact the rest of our lives and possibly that of our existing kids (aside from the shock of a preggo mom while they are in HS ), we would abort, given the opportunity. We didn't tell the other kids i was pregnant until the amnio results came back normal.
After we told them, one daughter attended an ultrasound apt with us and thought i was going to birth to an alien based on what she saw on the screen, and yet she said nothing, NOT ONE WORD, until baby-girl was born beautiful and normal, she busted out in hysterical happy tears the moment she saw her talk about stress!

 

[kom526]

I don't know about anyone else, but I love my kids whether they are normal or not.

My wife and I refused all of the pre natal screens also. My SIL's Dr. REQUIRED her to have the screens done and they came back positive for a defect. She sweated and worried for the remainder of her pregnancy and lo and behold she had perfectly healthy little girl, a bit early, but healthy nonetheless.