DeGeneres in doghouse

[camily]

The hairdresser's family only had the dog for 2 weeks. I'm sure they bonded, but I don't really think they should be THAT distraught over it. It's not like they had him for a year. :shrug:

I do think the adoption group should have made an exception for this one family, since the dog was already with them. I doubt their organization will be around much longer.

Does anyone else think it's weird their name is "Moms and Mutts" and they're being weird about a family with kids (even if they are under 14) adopting a small dog? You'd think if they're going to be adopting to Moms then they wouldn't mind kids. :shrug:

Agreed. Why not to people with kids under 14 anyway? My little Bitsy's the same age as my first born and we've had her since a baby (the dog and kid, ). No bites!

 

[Cowgirl]

Agreed. Why not to people with kids under 14 anyway? My little Bitsy's the same age as my first born and we've had her since a baby (the dog and kid, ). No bites!

I guess they (adoption agencies) know kids better than the parents. Don't they know the parents can just go BUY a dog? You'd think they'd want to save a life...but they're just interested in rules. I can see not adopting an aggressive dog....but c'mon.

 

[camily]

I guess they (adoption agencies) know kids better than the parents. Don't they know the parents can just go BUY a dog? You'd think they'd want to save a life...but they're just interested in rules. I can see not adopting an aggressive dog....but c'mon.

For real. Did you see the dog? Not looking like a killer.

 

[cdsulhoff]

Wow, I know a lot of people in the US and here are animal freaks but this entire thing is beyond stupid. Why would this even make the news? It’s JUST A FREAKIN’ DOG. Like all animals it is essentially property, who the hell cares? It wasn’t poisoned, beaten, eaten, or sexually molested. BFD, stories like this make me want to slap news people, don’t they have anything interesting to cover? Ellen’s ex-dog, unless she fried it up and ate it, should not be a blip on the national news scene.

Looks like we have a troll!

 

[Pete]

Wow, I know a lot of people in the US and here are animal freaks but this entire thing is beyond stupid. Why would this even make the news? It’s JUST A FREAKIN’ DOG. Like all animals it is essentially property, who the hell cares? It wasn’t poisoned, beaten, eaten, or sexually molested. BFD, stories like this make me want to slap news people, don’t they have anything interesting to cover? Ellen’s ex-dog, unless she fried it up and ate it, should not be a blip on the national news scene.

But it's ELLEN! She is FAMOUS and GAY! Everyone loves her!

 

[vraiblonde]

Looks like we have a troll!

 

[cdsulhoff]

The hairdresser's family only had the dog for 2 weeks. I'm sure they bonded, but I don't really think they should be THAT distraught over it. It's not like they had him for a year. :shrug:

I do think the adoption group should have made an exception for this one family, since the dog was already with them. I doubt their organization will be around much longer.

Does anyone else think it's weird their name is "Moms and Mutts" and they're being weird about a family with kids (even if they are under 14) adopting a small dog? You'd think if they're going to be adopting to Moms then they wouldn't mind kids. :shrug:

Hey there CG.
I know When I got my pup I got attached to it right away.. He came from a really bad breeder and ended up costing me $$$ to get him healthy.. I think it is the mere fact of disbelief of how cruel this lady is to the girls. It would be nice to see Iggy to go back to the family. However those girls will live! It is not the end of the world. Interesting to see what the outcome is going to be!

 

[BS Gal]

From the Petfinder Website:

Mutts and Mom has chosen to temporarily inactivate their website on Petfinder.com because their email inbox and voice mail are overwhelmed. Petfinder has 11,000 shelters and rescue groups posting over 260,000 pets that need homes. We do not dictate the adoption policies of our members. We do work with them to educate their volunteers and hope to professionalize the industry as a whole, providing a positive experience for adopters. Petfinder advocates for all parties: the pets, the adopters, and the shelter and rescue group workers and volunteers.

 

[cdsulhoff]

Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[vraiblonde]

Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sonsie posts all the time. Maybe if you'd get out of Chit Chat and read something substantial, you'd have seen him/her before.

 

[dems4me]

From the Petfinder Website:

... Petfinder advocates for all parties: the pets, the adopters, animal nazis, control freaks, and the shelter and most misguided rescue group workers and volunteers and innocent families looking for a new family pet.

:fixed:

My issue with all of this is I think that once you buy a pet after the rescue group has put a monetary value on the pet and they cash the check. It should be your pet. They made their decision that you were responsible and capable of providing a good home and making good decisions in the best interest of the dog. They sell you the dog it should be yours - end of story - they move on and rescue another dog. Not try to keep tabs on some 2,000 dogs they have rescued and sold. Who wants someone that keeps checking up on it :shrug: It should end there. They made their judgement, deemed you fit, they sold you the dog, I think it should end there; anything short of that is control issues :shrug:

 

[dems4me]

Sonsie posts all the time. Maybe if you'd get out of Chit Chat and read something substantial, you'd have seen him/her before.

 

[cdsulhoff]

Sonsie posts all the time. Maybe if you'd get out of Chit Chat and read something substantial, you'd have seen him/her before.

Sorry, for not wanting to spend all of my time in this place reading and posting!

 

[Cowgirl]

:fixed:

My issue with all of this is I think that once you buy a pet after the rescue group has put a monetary value on the pet and they cash the check. It should be your pet. They made their decision that you were responsible and capable of providing a good home and making good decisions in the best interest of the dog. They sell you the dog it should be yours - end of story - they move on and rescue another dog. Not try to keep tabs on some 2,000 dogs they have rescued and sold. Who wants someone that keeps checking up on it :shrug: It should end there. They made their judgement, deemed you fit, they sold you the dog, I think it should end there; anything short of that is control issues :shrug:

The thing is though, this isn't a breeder selling a dog. It's an adoption group "adopting" the dog. They view it as a totally different thing.

 

[dems4me]

The thing is though, this isn't a breeder selling a dog. It's an adoption group "adopting" the dog. They view it as a totally different thing.

So in other words when you sell the dog for adoption, that gives them "forever" rights on the dog you paid for? Just because its "adopted" does that mean it never make it fully YOUR dog??

 

[cattitude]

:fixed:

My issue with all of this is I think that once you buy a pet after the rescue group has put a monetary value on the pet and they cash the check. It should be your pet. They made their decision that you were responsible and capable of providing a good home and making good decisions in the best interest of the dog. They sell you the dog it should be yours - end of story - they move on and rescue another dog. Not try to keep tabs on some 2,000 dogs they have rescued and sold. Who wants someone that keeps checking up on it :shrug: It should end there. They made their judgement, deemed you fit, they sold you the dog, I think it should end there; anything short of that is control issues :shrug:

And just how would you feel if you were visiting Tri County and saw one of the babies you and River worked so hard to save? Wouldn't you rather have the opportunity to have the kitten back rather than see it go to the shelter? That's what rescues attempt to do. They just want to be sure that the pets get the best possible homes and don't have to go back to a bad situation. Granted, there are a lot of rescue organizations that are concerned more with control and are overzealous. BUT...when you "buy" the animal from a rescue, you do sign a contract. If you don't intend to honor it, then go somewhere else.

Purchasing an animal from a breeder is something totally different. A reputable breeder is concerned about preserving the integrity of their line. They do not want you to purchase a dog or cat and then breed it willy-nilly, without regard for overpopulation or genetic defects.

This is just the tip of the iceberg and why there are so many animals in rescues and so many bad breeders out there.

That said, I'm not sure there is a solution, but I do what I can to help the animals.

As an aside...I think Ellen did the best thing for the dog and that in some instances rescues really need to look at the situation and not apply generic rules.

 

[dems4me]

And just how would you feel if you were visiting Tri County and saw one of the babies you and River worked so hard to save? Wouldn't you rather have the opportunity to have the kitten back rather than see it go to the shelter? That's what rescues attempt to do. They just want to be sure that the pets get the best possible homes and don't have to go back to a bad situation. Granted, there are a lot of rescue organizations that are concerned more with control and are overzealous. BUT...when you "buy" the animal from a rescue, you do sign a contract. If you don't intend to honor it, then go somewhere else.

Purchasing an animal from a breeder is something totally different. A reputable breeder is concerned about preserving the integrity of their line. They do not want you to purchase a dog or cat and then breed it willy-nilly, without regard for overpopulation or genetic defects.

This is just the tip of the iceberg and why there are so many animals in rescues and so many bad breeders out there.

That said, I'm not sure there is a solution, but I do what I can to help the animals.

As an aside...I think Ellen did the best thing for the dog and that in some instances rescues really need to look at the situation and not apply generic rules.

It would bother me, but I made sure to tell folks if it doesn't work out bring it back and the FIRST step is making sure you are finding folks that WONT do that when you give the kitten away to a home. You can't just give the kitten away willy nilly, you get a feel for the person and you trust them and make sure its a suitable home :shrug:. I don't feel contracts are necessary for family pets. :shrug:

 

[Cowgirl]

So in other words when you sell the dog for adoption, that gives them "forever" rights on the dog you paid for? Just because its "adopted" does that mean it never make it fully YOUR dog??

No, it is your dog. BUT...when you decide you don't want that dog anymore, the rescue gets dibs. Most rescues are the same way. I don't blame them. If I adopted out dogs, I'd want that dog back if something happened and the owner couldn't keep it. :shrug: That's why you see all these "free dog" ads....it's hard to be sure you're giving that dog to a good home.

 

[dems4me]

... BUT...when you "buy" the animal from a rescue, you do sign a contract. If you don't intend to honor it, then go elsewhere ...
As an aside...I think Ellen did the best thing for the dog and that in some instances rescues really need to look at the situation and not apply generic rules.

:shrug: Ellen signed a contract :shrug:

 

[cattitude]

It would bother me, but I made sure to tell folks if it doesn't work out bring it back and the FIRST step is making sure you are finding folks that WONT do that when you give the kitten away to a home. You can't just give the kitten away willy nilly, you get a feel for the person and you trust them and make sure its a suitable home :shrug:. I don't feel contracts are necessary for family pets. :shrug:

But you can never be sure. You give away kittens...everyone loves a kitten..until it scratches the furniture, pees on the carpets, whatever. Then people feel guilty and don't want to admit to you that there's a problem...so they just get rid of it. And you want to make sure they're spayed/neutered because you know how cats multiply.

Everyone has their opinions but I've worked in a shelter, I've done rescue for 30 years and I've seen a lot. I'm more on the side of the animals but I try to have a realistic approach in my opinions.