Actually, we have done this, as I resigned myself long ago (sort of kind of) that it would always be that way. Still, we did have high hopes on that last cable. 
Diching this POS ipad and iphone
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Actually, we have done this, as I resigned myself long ago (sort of kind of) that it would always be that way. Still, we did have high hopes on that last cable. 
I've said that along. I will never, ever purchase anything that has i- or a picture of a piece of fruit with a bite taken out of it as a logo. Nothing to do with the product, just where that product came from - the smariness, condescending, smirking attitude that still oozes from them, even well after the passing of their popscicle stick, gotee'd leader genius.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to me droids or androids.
PeoplesElbow
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This $50 off contract phone has been the best phone I have ever owned, almost two years without a lick of trouble. http://www.att.com/cellphones/nokia/lumia-520-gophone.html
I am awaiting for this one to come out to upgrade.
http://www.windowscentral.com/att-will-reportedly-begin-selling-lumia-640-and-640-xl-later-june
I am awaiting for this one to come out to upgrade.
http://www.windowscentral.com/att-will-reportedly-begin-selling-lumia-640-and-640-xl-later-june
The iPod is the best thing since sliced bread for Thing1, so if you had to occupy his time you wouldn't say that. Besides even though he has a developmental disability , he is a grown man and he buys them with his own money.
We just facilitate certain aspects of his ownership such as ordering online or driving him to the store to help him purchase his accessories when they break.
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I HATE APPLE!! 
After my experience last night I had to come here to vent.
Last night I had to spend a bunch of time trying to figure out why various iPhones wouldn't sync with the computer. This included an older iPhone and a newer one. Turns out that even though a slightly older version of iTunes was detecting the phones (indicated the phones were "authenticated" w/ the machine), I had to upgrade to a newer version of iTunes in order to sync. Mind you, this version of iTunes worked with the sync previously. So at some point if you're not updating iTunes, Apple apparently may remove your sync capability, essentially forcing you to update (which took 20-30 minutes!). And OBTW, the only "disk" option that Apple seems to provide are with your photos, which is beyond useless when you want to add MUSIC!
Sorry for the rant, and I'm certainly not trying to pick at Bann's son or anyone else (so please don't take it that way), but it really ticks me off that Apple makes it so difficult for their users. You have to do their updates when they want or your stuff will no longer work. And if you mess anything up, good luck figuring it out. So much for Apple being the "easier" device to use.
After my experience last night I had to come here to vent. Last night I had to spend a bunch of time trying to figure out why various iPhones wouldn't sync with the computer. This included an older iPhone and a newer one. Turns out that even though a slightly older version of iTunes was detecting the phones (indicated the phones were "authenticated" w/ the machine), I had to upgrade to a newer version of iTunes in order to sync. Mind you, this version of iTunes worked with the sync previously. So at some point if you're not updating iTunes, Apple apparently may remove your sync capability, essentially forcing you to update (which took 20-30 minutes!). And OBTW, the only "disk" option that Apple seems to provide are with your photos, which is beyond useless when you want to add MUSIC!
Sorry for the rant, and I'm certainly not trying to pick at Bann's son or anyone else (so please don't take it that way), but it really ticks me off that Apple makes it so difficult for their users. You have to do their updates when they want or your stuff will no longer work. And if you mess anything up, good luck figuring it out. So much for Apple being the "easier" device to use.
I HATE APPLE!!
Last night I had to spend a bunch of time trying to figure out why various iPhones wouldn't sync with the computer. This included an older iPhone and a newer one. Turns out that even though a slightly older version of iTunes was detecting the phones (indicated the phones were "authenticated" w/ the machine), I had to upgrade to a newer version of iTunes in order to sync. Mind you, this version of iTunes worked with the sync previously. So at some point if you're not updating iTunes, Apple apparently may remove your sync capability, essentially forcing you to update (which took 20-30 minutes!). And OBTW, the only "disk" option that Apple seems to provide are with your photos, which is beyond useless when you want to add MUSIC!
Sorry for the rant, and I'm certainly not trying to pick at Bann's son or anyone else (so please don't take it that way), but it really ticks me off that Apple makes it so difficult for their users. You have to do their updates when they want or your stuff will no longer work. And if you mess anything up, good luck figuring it out. So much for Apple being the "easier" device to use.
NO offense taken! My son complains about this, as well!! AND - not having ever used any Apple products myself, I am not even that well knowledgeable about those products. I have iTunes on my computer, but I hardly ever use it, so it never stays updated.
His frustrations do become my problems when he has to have something done *now* because of this, that or the other, and I don't have the time (or patience!) to figure it out. Thing2 used to do it for me, but now Foxhound typically will help him out.
loveWish there was a better product that wasn't Apple, but...
My 1st gen iPad required connection to a Mac (a PC wouldn't do) with the latest iTunes in order to update and initialize. Fortunately my then son-in-law had a Mac I could use.
Smart thinking, Apple.
Smart thinking, Apple.
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My 1st gen iPad required connection to a Mac (a PC wouldn't do) with the latest iTunes in order to update and initialize. Fortunately my then son-in-law had a Mac I could use.
Smart thinking, Apple.
People who like iPad are forced to buy or use Mac computers, thus potentially adding a few people to their client base. Most people are going to buy the iPad regardless, because they don't know any better. So it's a win/win for them.
Well I'll never buy another one, that's for sure. That's one of the reasons I will never give Apple another dime of my electronics money: crappy tricks like this.
GWguy
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Back in the mid 80's, I was a Mac person. In fact, my online persona was MacMan. Eventually, I saw the writing on the wall and left the family.
Everyone I know that has an iPhone has some kind of issue, whether software or hardware. I rarely hear of anyone having issues with Android. My Galaxy SIII is perfectly reliable, has been for years, no reason to upgrade yet. Only one issue, I dropped it and now any photos I take are not sharp and have a skew in the bottom left corner. But that was my fault.
Everyone I know that has an iPhone has some kind of issue, whether software or hardware. I rarely hear of anyone having issues with Android. My Galaxy SIII is perfectly reliable, has been for years, no reason to upgrade yet. Only one issue, I dropped it and now any photos I take are not sharp and have a skew in the bottom left corner. But that was my fault.
Part of it is my lacking familiarity of a package setup for Android. I had several Android phones previously for my old company. Loved the phones. Actually prefer those phones to the Iphone I currently have.
Back then, or even now, I didn't use Google calendars. Everything was focused around Microsoft Outlook. But even with my wife not having outlook, she can setup calendars on her I-phone/I-pad that sync up with my I-phone/I-pad without compromising (or even having access to) my work calendar. It's great for doctor appts or children events. For me, the advantage is that it is easy to use. Very simple to utilize and very simple to share. And my calendar is immediately everywhere. On my laptop. On my phone. On my I-pad. On her phone ........ you get the point.
Facetime seems to be more readily used. In my circle of friends, everyone has it. We did Skype before (when I had the Android or in using the laptop) but didn't have much luck. And again, it's very simple to use.
The reality is that both systems have their pros/cons. I LOVE my I-pad because I can do so much stuff on it that I would have to previously use my laptop for. I can access file remotemly. Use it as a GPS in the car.
But I would trade in my I-phone for another Android. I think it was a Photon and I loved that thing.
LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
I've owned an Apple II+, IIc, IIgs, then, moving on to the Mac line with a 512Ke (aka the "fat mac"), Mac IIse, Mac IIci, Mac IIfx, Mac Quadra 900, several PowerBooks, several MacBooks including the vintage late 2007 one from which I type this now. I've own NeXT Cubes, NeXT pizza boxes, all manner of Sun workstations, and sh!tty Windows-based systems, but I love modern Apple hardware and operating systems, and they will always have a place in my computing arsenal. I love that I'm a single mouse click away from a proper X11/UNIX environment.
But most of all, I loved Jobs' "#### you" attitude. Remember, Apple didn't sign the Prism agreement with the NSA until after Jobs was dead. He knew what was up, IMO, and I'm persuaded put up a hell of a fight to keep that crap away from the Apple ecosystem. I don't use a mobile phone (but if I did, it would be an iPhone), but even today, while the android stores are cesspools of security problems (a flashlight app that sends off your GPS data to christ only knows where??) the Apple store is solid, and anyone who has taken the time to look at the security they've built in to iOS (iPhone and iPad) understands they are solid operating systems. In short, no one has the track record for respecting your privacy that Apple does. Hell, Google *tells* you they are going to violate your privacy like a 14 year old Thai street whore. That's not part of Apple's business model, never has been, and I don't believe ever will.
It absolutely is not true any longer that Apple is more expensive than other computers, as long as you make sure you are comparing apples to apples, so to speak.
Apple haters are probably just inept at computing and need to take out their anger at their own shortcomings on a boogeyman.
This is kind of a recurring theme with you, your love of institutions that tell you to go #### yourself and treat you like dirt. Your computer choices, your political affiliations....
LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
Apple has treated me just fine (their computers and the return on my equity investments), and I don't have any political affiliations.
May I ask what in the #### you are talking about? Are you just talking to hear yourself?
GWguy
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I was a computer systems analyst for over 30 years. I've worked on everything from a Cyber 700 series to a Cray to a VAX to a SEL to a PC and Mac.
iAnything is not worth the money, aggravation or control they have over anyone.
LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
Money is not an issue. No matter what metric you want to use iThings are not more expensive than their competitor's gear as long as you're talking about equivalent computing power and features. Aggravation? Computers (of any kind) don't aggravate me because I know how to use them. Control? Sorry, they don't have any sort of control over me either. What sort of control do you purport these iDevices have over their users?
Now that I've chewed up and spit out your lame objections, do you have anything of substance to discuss?
LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
It's amazing how irrational a computer company can cause people to be.
