Diching this POS ipad and iphone
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LibertyBeacon
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Oh no sir. I bow to your supreme prowess and knowledge.
Very good, young padawan. That's the sort of submission I require.
But since they were your words, I am curious to know what sort of control you believe iDevices have over their users. Is this a mind control sort of thing? Or are we talking about something a bit more esoteric?
Beta
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While I haven't compared prices lately, the fact that you buy nothing but Apple products makes you appear somewhat biased and makes it seem like you may not even understand what the other options provide.
That being said, you're trying to make the claim that an Apple computer that costs (for example) $1000 is equal to or better than every other computer on the market that costs the same price. Really?
BTW, last I checked, Apple's target audience is people inept at computing. So, as you were saying?
EDIT: Because you made the comment, I decided to do a quick look at Consumer Reports. Some Apple products are rated better than other laptops in their competitive range, others aren't. Each time the Apple computer was rated the highest, the price was head and shoulders more expensive.
In the 10-11" range, the two Apple laptops are the best, but the price difference is $800 vs $200.
In the 13" range, 4 laptops rate above the top Apple laptop, with the price of those 4 laptops ranging from $600 cheaper to $100 cheaper. There was an Apple laptop, rated last as a 64, that was $350 more than the #2 rated Asus.
In the 15-16" range, the Apple product is rated #3, but is $200-300 more expensive than the products rated #1 & 2.
Apples to apples, dust to dust. Take off the Apple glasses. They obviously have solid products, but to claim they're anywhere close to the market average price point for what you're getting is ludicrous.
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a common whine I hear
.. but I can only install apps from the Apple Store, only what Apple tells me I can install ...
link skippy ?
LibertyBeacon
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Exactly. But reference the comment about security cesspool. I don't think Apple completely vets the apps they allow in their store, but they do put eyeballs on the code. Are they checking every function call to be sure no buffers are overrun? Not sure, but they at least look. It's all part of the consumer experience that makes them successful.
Beta
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If you can't google "consumer reports computer ratings" then there's no hope for you.
That being said, Consumer Reports is a pay site, so if you don't have an account then a link wouldn't help anyway. Sorry.
I do agree with this. I think they have "safer" apps overall. That being said, that security glitch they had in their PCs up to a year ago that made their products arguably more prone than any PC in history was pretty freaking horrible for a company that boasts security.
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I think it's funny how the people who like and *only buy* Apple products think that people who do not care for them makes them in some way inferior.
Actually, the people who consider themselves superior because they DO like those products are the ones with a problem.
Actually, the people who consider themselves superior because they DO like those products are the ones with a problem.
LibertyBeacon
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You sure you're comparing apples to apples? Absolutely sure? Core count? Amount of cache? Memory? Speed of memory? Speed of processor? How about networking options? Wired and wireless? How about built-in optical media? USB 3.0? I could go on, but on balance, it simply is no longer true that Apple gear is more expensive, once you figure out how to compare apples to apples.
Looks like you have a bit of homework ahead of you.
LibertyBeacon
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Not inferior, just laughably whiny.
LibertyBeacon
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I do agree with this. I think they have "safer" apps overall. That being said, that security glitch they had in their PCs up to a year ago that made their products arguably more prone than any PC in history was pretty freaking horrible for a company that boasts security.
No operating system is free from potential security problems.
At least up until Jobs died, when Apple touted "security" I now believe that was code for "safe from NSA snooping" not necessarily safe from malware being unwittingly installed on your machine.
My disabled son is not laughably whiny.
LibertyBeacon
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The reason Apple has "safer" apps is because the crackers and script kiddies don't want to bother creating viruses and malware for an OS that has so few users. It's not out of any superiority on Apple's part.
LibertyBeacon
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Do the numbers you've consulted to draw this conclusion include the iOS installed base? Or just OS X?
Tell you what: you run down your own numbers and let me know when you find something that says Apple in any of its forms is the leading OS in this country or even worldwide.
I'll check back later.
LibertyBeacon
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They are not, and that wasn't my assertion. You made a statement, I asked a clarifying question. You can choose to answer it or not. I couldn't care less if you do or not.
Your statement is, however, borne of ignorance and only a journey -- a journey you yourself must take -- will fix that.
GWguy
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I went to bed, and when I got up I had no desire to continue this debate. All Liberty wants to do is argue. Not even discuss, just argue. I'm not checking back.
Pete
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After being a MS user for 20 years I switched to all Apple about 3 years ago. I love my iStuff. iPhone, iPad and MacBook Pro. My choice was cemented when I bought the GF a Windows laptop because he desktop died and it took me weeks to finally give up and take it back. We got a different one but what to me was frustrating was that if you google "Windows 7 lagging keyboard" you got 9 pages of "fixes" meaning 1. It was a known problem, 2. MS never put out a real fix. We have had endless connection problems with WiFi on all the kids machines while I and my MAC never slow down.