Does anyone know what's going on around the Lexington Park Post Office?

[sugarmama]

Very valid point. There were people (parents, friends, family, co-workers, etc.) who saw Nick regularly who could guage his behavior, and who knew that things weren't right with him. Particularly as his oddities became more apparent, they should have reported him to the authorities.

Example: the dude from the metro DC area who was just arrested for attempting to bluw up abortionist clinics and kill/maim abortion doctors - his PARENTS turned him in. They knew - or at least strongly suspected - that he was going to do something terrible. They took the appropriate action and alerted the authorities. They should be applauded.

I completely agree that sometimes ppl do exhibit strange behaviors in their loved ones and act appropriately. However, you don't believe that sometimes people just snap (or maybe drugs took over). Perhaps his mom knew he was on drugs and yes, she should have seeked help for him, but I find it very possible that Nick didn't present any behavior that made his family/friendns think he was going to kill someone.

 

[vraiblonde]

I hope your azz gets thrown in jail for your son molesting a little girl.

That was a jerk thing to say. So I think it's clear that YOU are the idiot around here.

BG was simply saying that this sort of behavior doesn't happen in a vacuum - the people surrounding the psycho more than likely realize something is wrong with them. And then we get Masey, who frankly admits that even if her child were guilty beyond a doubt, she'd STILL try to get them off or a lighter sentence.

THOSE are the parents that BadGirl is talking about - the ones who know damn good and well that their precious baby is a nutjob who will likely end up harming someone, yet they ignore it or cover it up.

 

[sugarmama]

That was a jerk thing to say. So I think it's clear that YOU are the idiot around here.

BG was simply saying that this sort of behavior doesn't happen in a vacuum - the people surrounding the psycho more than likely realize something is wrong with them. And then we get Masey, who frankly admits that even if her child were guilty beyond a doubt, she'd STILL try to get them off or a lighter sentence.

THOSE are the parents that BadGirl is talking about - the ones who know damn good and well that their precious baby is a nutjob who will likely end up harming someone, yet they ignore it or cover it up.

Vrai, I'm not an idiot--I understand full well what BG is talking about. Except she came across as, " The parent of every person who does something wrong should be jailed as well because they should have known it was going tohappen". THAT is what I don't agree with. I DO agree that if a parent knows their child is a "nutjob", then they do have the responsibility of getting them help, or turniing them in if they did do soemthing. I personally would never try to get my kidd off on a lighter sentence if they did something wrong. I am just simply saying that I am sure there are cases where a criminal did NOT exhibit any odd behaviors that anyone would have caught onto. I am certainly not defending what they did, I am just saying that I do not think it's the parents fault in every case.

 

[sugarmama]

Does anyone know what's... 06-15-2006 09:48 AM do you know that Nick had threatened to kill him own mom just 2 weeks before???


I am not defending Nick here! I am just saying that I believe BadGirl is WAY off is saying that parents should be responsible for their child's murder/other crimes.

 

[mAlice]

You're an idiot BG. You clearly did not even read the article. He wasn't a KID.. it was a thirty-something year old dude.
And you DO think it's his parents fault?

Man, I sure hope you're on somd in 20 years when you find out that your child is NOT perfect and there's nothing you can do about it. I hope your azz gets thrown in jail for your son molesting a little girl.

What a horrible thing to say.

 

[Pandora]

What a horrible thing to say.

Not only that, but she obviously didn’t read the article, because the article said he is 22 years old, not thirty something.

 

[ememdee19]

Does anyone know what's... 06-15-2006 09:48 AM do you know that Nick had threatened to kill him own mom just 2 weeks before???


I am not defending Nick here! I am just saying that I believe BadGirl is WAY off is saying that parents should be responsible for their child's murder/other crimes.

He threatened to kill her and that wasn't a "sign?"

 

[mAlice]

It boggles the mind to think that someone would wish such a horrible thing, or even think that way. She wishes for a child to grow up and become a monster, and she hopes for some little girl to suffer at the hands of said monster. Effin' sick.

 

[itsbob]

Does anyone know what's... 06-15-2006 09:48 AM do you know that Nick had threatened to kill him own mom just 2 weeks before???


I am not defending Nick here! I am just saying that I believe BadGirl is WAY off is saying that parents should be responsible for their child's murder/other crimes.

So what she said about NICK's MOM getting him help would be true.. BUT Nick threatened to kill his mom, and in turn killed her boyfriend of THIRTEEN years, then wants him to have the best defense money can buy.. yet if she did the job a parent SHOULD do, there would be no golf club inbedded in someone's skull.. and if he did threaten to kill her and she did nothing about it, then I feel she is culpable...

 

[itsbob]

Man, I sure hope you're on somd in 20 years when you find out that your child is NOT perfect and there's nothing you can do about it. I hope your azz gets thrown in jail for your son molesting a little girl.

Didn't catch this.. You're right Elaine.. this is one sick twisted f'd up individual.

 

[Midnightrider]

Not only that, but she obviously didn’t read the article, because the article said he is 22 years old, not thirty something.

try reading the article they are talking about, she linked to the Gene Libby article, he's 36.


but sug looks like she is viaing w/ JPC for the redest forumite.

You go girl!!!

(this poster in no way endorses the views of sugarmama)

 

[ememdee19]

One of the articles...

http://www.somdnews.com/stories/061406/entetop175052_32100.shtml

 

[vraiblonde]

So what she said about NICK's MOM getting him help would be true.. BUT Nick threatened to kill his mom, and in turn killed her boyfriend of THIRTEEN years, then wants him to have the best defense money can buy.. yet if she did the job a parent SHOULD do, there would be no golf club inbedded in someone's skull.. and if he did threaten to kill her and she did nothing about it, then I feel she is culpable...

I completely agree and really cannot see the side of the folks who think different.

Sugar, Badgirl isn't saying that if your kid shoplifts or smokes pot the parents should be liable. She's saying that if your kid has a psychological disorder or has exhibited aberrant behavior AND you ignore it, you are just as guilty as your kid.

There was a story on the news awhile back about a school system that actually punishes the parents if their kid is a truant. Because, ultimately, it's YOUR responsiblity to raise your child and parent them. You can't just say "Well, he did it himself" because YOU as the parent are supposed to be teaching them not to do those things.

So parents have a two-fold responsibility to raise their children to be decent people AND take care of any problems that crop up where their kid might become a danger to others.

 

[Elle]

One of the articles...

http://www.somdnews.com/stories/061406/entetop175052_32100.shtml

Public Defender William Renahan asked that Potts, an employee at a Hollywood construction firm, be released on personal recognizance. ‘‘He does not have a history of violent crime,” the lawyer said, calling the homicide ‘‘an isolated incident involving something of a domestic nature.”

St. Mary’s Assistant State’s Attorney James Tanavage countered that if Potts were convicted of first-degree murder, he potentially could be sentenced to serve life in prison without the possibility of parole.

‘‘It’s a particularly brutal case,” the prosecutor said. ‘‘We see no reason to risk the community’s safety.”

Judge Robert Riddle concurred, saying, ‘‘The nature of the crime in itself warrants no bond.”

 

[sugarmama]

I completely agree and really cannot see the side of the folks who think different.

Sugar, Badgirl isn't saying that if your kid shoplifts or smokes pot the parents should be liable. She's saying that if your kid has a psychological disorder or has exhibited aberrant behavior AND you ignore it, you are just as guilty as your kid.

There was a story on the news awhile back about a school system that actually punishes the parents if their kid is a truant. Because, ultimately, it's YOUR responsiblity to raise your child and parent them. You can't just say "Well, he did it himself" because YOU as the parent are supposed to be teaching them not to do those things.

So parents have a two-fold responsibility to raise their children to be decent people AND take care of any problems that crop up where their kid might become a danger to others.

I'm pretty sure I have said 500 times that I AGREE with this.
I didn't know that Nick had threatened to kill his Mom. I have said plenty of times that I'm NOT defending Nick. .
You people are reading what you want, and ignoring the rest. Ignorance.

 

[itsbob]

There was a story on the news awhile back about a school system that actually punishes the parents if their kid is a truant. Because, ultimately, it's YOUR responsiblity to raise your child and parent them. You can't just say "Well, he did it himself" because YOU as the parent are supposed to be teaching them not to do those things.

Where we lived in PA was like that.. your kid skipped school YOU went to court and paid a fine.

 

[sugarmama]

So what she said about NICK's MOM getting him help would be true.. BUT Nick threatened to kill his mom, and in turn killed her boyfriend of THIRTEEN years, then wants him to have the best defense money can buy.. yet if she did the job a parent SHOULD do, there would be no golf club inbedded in someone's skull.. and if he did threaten to kill her and she did nothing about it, then I feel she is culpable...

If this is true (that nick had threatened his mom), then yes I do agree that she SHOULD have done something.

 

[ememdee19]

Where we lived in PA was like that.. your kid skipped school YOU went to court and paid a fine.

That's how it should be. I don't understand some of the parents who don't mind if their child misses a day of school for an invalid reason.

 

[sugarmama]

I completely agree and really cannot see the side of the folks who think different.

Sugar, Badgirl isn't saying that if your kid shoplifts or smokes pot the parents should be liable. She's saying that if your kid has a psychological disorder or has exhibited aberrant behavior AND you ignore it, you are just as guilty as your kid.

There was a story on the news awhile back about a school system that actually punishes the parents if their kid is a truant. Because, ultimately, it's YOUR responsiblity to raise your child and parent them. You can't just say "Well, he did it himself" because YOU as the parent are supposed to be teaching them not to do those things.

So parents have a two-fold responsibility to raise their children to be decent people AND take care of any problems that crop up where their kid might become a danger to others.

If it's a CHILD, then yes I 100% agree with this. If they're grown, I think there's only so much you can do. Obviously, even if it's a GROWN child (like nick), if he threatened to kill his mom then yes she should have done something about that.

 

[mAlice]

If it's a CHILD, then yes I 100% agree with this. If they're grown, I think there's only so much you can do. Obviously, even if it's a GROWN child (like nick), if he threatened to kill his mom then yes she should have done something about that.

You're still a sick, twisted individual.