dog killed by groomer?

Loper

Animal Poor!
river rat said:
Dontcha hate when peeps ruin your pet. :banghead:

I can't clip my dogs nail cause of her bad experience at a vet's office. A VET'S OFFICE for heaven's sake.


:huggy: I have no idea what they did to him, but now groom all my guys myself. Not that I don't trust local groomers, but it can be a pleasant pastime for all of us with our buddies. I no longer have a special case, such as a chow to groom. All mine just now need brushing and occasional rear-end trimming. I've always clipped toenails myself. But Paso brought up a good point about asking questions and knowing your breed to be groomed, before you bring them into a groomer. I never thought to ask 12 years ago what qualifications were needed or experience, I assumed it was a PROFESSIONAL groomer and all was ok. We live and learn!

River ~ as for it being a VET office, I would switch Vets. Or at least specify the vet tech you want working on your animals! Not everyone is capable, some are better off answering phone. I'm not putting anyone down, I would have been a vet tech in a heartbeat if I thought I could handle the blood. :yay:
 

Cowgirl

Well-Known Member
I worked at a groomers for 1 summer bathing dogs. UGH is all I have to say. That is hard work! Some of the dogs are jerks, but MOST of the owners were jerks. You would not believe how people neglect their dogs then expect them to go to the groomers and expect them to fix it all. One lady had a chow and let it's nails grow SO long...poor dog. Then, she wanted the vet to sedate it and have us chop off it's nails back to almost the paw. The groomer said :nono:. Some dogs were so matted that you could hardly find their body. Most owners would argue if the groomer told them the dog was too fiesty (biting, fighting)...."Oh, not my Pookie, she's so sweet." :rolleyes:
After working there, I would never own a bichon, or a schnauzer (sorry Kwillia). About 95% of the ones we had were jerks.

Groomers have a rough job, and owners need to be more thoughtful. If the dog gets so worked up that it has to be sedated and muzzled, maybe they should do the work themselves or take it to a vet's office. Also, the chow owner should have STAYED with the dog.
 

mymonkeybug

New Member
I used this groomer in question once and won't again and came to that conclusion long before any dead dog occured via someone's negligence...owner, groomer, doesn't seem to matter now.

I thought I would save money going more local, always have used Interlude in St. Leonard and they are fab., the grooming was $10 more at Solomons and his ears must have have been forgotten about and he didn't smell as nice, kinda' hard to screw up a boxer...bath, nails, ears, anals, done!

Went to pick him up and couldn't pay with credit card, sign was behind counter in small print on white paper stuck to a white wall and gentleman working there was blocking it. Needless to say I had to go back home and get a check, who carries checkbooks anymore with ATM debit cards, hell who doesn't accept debit/credit cards these days?

Anyway, my story, back to Interlude where I know he is well cared for and groomed to perfection!!!
 

Pasofever

Does my butt look big?
What did Interlude charge? And Solomons..Yep pretty hard to mess up a Boxer BNE...

Most small groomers do NOT take credit cards..ask that when you call for your appointment..I do not..and I take few checks..Most of my customers pay cash..My prices are lower then most shops as I work out of the house and have less over head..
 

mymonkeybug

New Member
Pasofever said:
What did Interlude charge? And Solomons..Yep pretty hard to mess up a Boxer BNE...

Most small groomers do NOT take credit cards..ask that when you call for your appointment..I do not..and I take few checks..Most of my customers pay cash..My prices are lower then most shops as I work out of the house and have less over head..

Well I paid $45 in Solomons and $30 at Interlude. My fault though because I should have asked price first but I assumed it would be close to Interlude since you don't do any trimming or cutting on a boxer. I didn't realize smaller groomers didn't take cards. Why is that when you can do it so easily online now with merchant accounts that charge flat annual fees rather than % based fees per transaction?
 

Pasofever

Does my butt look big?
mymonkeybug said:
Well I paid $45 in Solomons and $30 at Interlude. My fault though because I should have asked price first but I assumed it would be close to Interlude since you don't do any trimming or cutting on a boxer. I didn't realize smaller groomers didn't take cards. Why is that when you can do it so easily online now with merchant accounts that charge flat annual fees rather than % based fees per transaction?

:faint: I charge $25
 

Pasofever

Does my butt look big?
As for credit cards honestly I don't get asked much..I bet in 10 yrs I have had only a hand full of people ask...I would take pay pal if it would help someone out..I do reduced rate for rescues and for people that I know are on fixed income or disabled etc.
 

spinner

Member
I don't take credit cards either, most people will ask before they leave their dog. I would have to raise rates if I did, first you have to purchase the machine [close to $1,000 for the online machine, less for the knuckle-buster], or rent one, then a transaction fee based on how many charges go through a month, and a percentage, between 3-5%. At least that's the way it was last time I checked into it. Plus the added paperwork, which you have to keep because customers have up to 6 months to dispute charges on their statements. I haven't lost many customers because of not taking plastic, most people are very understanding.
I charge 25-30 for a boxer. bath, ears, nails, anals, the works.
 

Pasofever

Does my butt look big?
spinner said:
I don't take credit cards either, most people will ask before they leave their dog. I would have to raise rates if I did, first you have to purchase the machine [close to $1,000 for the online machine, less for the knuckle-buster], or rent one, then a transaction fee based on how many charges go through a month, and a percentage, between 3-5%. At least that's the way it was last time I checked into it. Plus the added paperwork, which you have to keep because customers have up to 6 months to dispute charges on their statements. I haven't lost many customers because of not taking plastic, most people are very understanding.
I charge 25-30 for a boxer. bath, ears, nails, anals, the works.

:high5:
 

mymonkeybug

New Member
You could do Propay which is all run through the internet and then you don't have to buy/rent the machinery, and there is a flat annual fee. I only suggested it because I had to use them for my business before the company started running the cards for me. Just an idea...not in any way trying to tell any of you how to run your business'.
 

Labs4Me

New Member
Cowgirl said:
One lady had a chow and let it's nails grow SO long...poor dog. Then, she wanted the vet to sedate it and have us chop off it's nails back to almost the paw.
Back when I worked as a vet tech we had this old couple bring in their equally old cat whose nails had been so neglected and left to grow so long that they had literally curled completely back and grown back into the cat's pads!! I mean literally so long that they pierced the pads and grew into them. I've never seen anything like it!! The cat was so obese that it could hardly get around which I guess is partly why the nails were never able to wear down a little bit to begin with (in addition to the lack of trimming them). The cat was also heavily matted. I didn't give a crap how old they were cause I couldn't hold my tongue!! This was abusive in my opinion and I let them know I felt that way. When I asked them WTF they were thinking they calmly responded by saying, "we thought she was gonna die a few months ago so we didn't worry about having her groomed". Unbelievable!!
 

Cowgirl

Well-Known Member
Labs4Me said:
Back when I worked as a vet tech we had this old couple bring in their equally old cat whose nails had been so neglected and left to grow so long that they had literally curled completely back and grown back into the cat's pads!! I mean literally so long that they pierced the pads and grew into them. I've never seen anything like it!! The cat was so obese that it could hardly get around which I guess is partly why the nails were never able to wear down a little bit to begin with (in addition to the lack of trimming them). The cat was also heavily matted. I didn't give a crap how old they were cause I couldn't hold my tongue!! This was abusive in my opinion and I let them know I felt that way. When I asked them WTF they were thinking they calmly responded by saying, "we thought she was gonna die a few months ago so we didn't worry about having her groomed". Unbelievable!!


Yep...we got a dog once with nails curled under and into the pads. It's sad.
 

action jackson

New Member
so what is happening there? Is the other groomer still working? I drove by twice this week; once at noon and again at 3 pm and they were closed. Is the owner getting sued?
 

whitecat2

New Member
i was there

it just so happens that i was in the shop in question on the day of the incident. The chow was very aggressive. He tried to attack the groomer and bit the front desk manager. The groomer called the shop owner to ask what she should do and was told to call the dog's owner and send him home. He was ungroomable. The dog's owner insisted on him being groomed and offered to come in and muzzle him and keep him under control. When she came in she gave the dog another tranquilizer which shocked me because I know that's too much medication for a dog, even one as big as him. They finally got him under control and proceeded to groom him. He fell asleep standing up and was snoring quite loudly. we all had a good laugh at that. All of a sudden he went limp and was barely breathing. The groomer was clearly concerned but the owner insisted he was just sleeping due to the pills. They rushed him next door to the vet. They did everything they could but the poor thing didn't make it. My heart goes out to the owner but I find no fault with the groomers. The dog's owner was present the entire time and insisted on him being groomed despite the warnings from the groomers. I've worked and lived around animals my whole life and in my opinion this was a typical case of overdose.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Loper said:
:huggy: I have no idea what they did to him, but now groom all my guys myself. Not that I don't trust local groomers, but it can be a pleasant pastime for all of us with our buddies. I no longer have a special case, such as a chow to groom. All mine just now need brushing and occasional rear-end trimming. I've always clipped toenails myself. But Paso brought up a good point about asking questions and knowing your breed to be groomed, before you bring them into a groomer. I never thought to ask 12 years ago what qualifications were needed or experience, I assumed it was a PROFESSIONAL groomer and all was ok. We live and learn!

River ~ as for it being a VET office, I would switch Vets. Or at least specify the vet tech you want working on your animals! Not everyone is capable, some are better off answering phone. I'm not putting anyone down, I would have been a vet tech in a heartbeat if I thought I could handle the blood. :yay:

Do you squeeze their ass glands yourself too??
 

action jackson

New Member
Yeah, everyone is entitiled to their opinion. Are you a vet or vets asst?
Unfortunately for these folks, people will not likely forget the stigma associated with them.
You imply it was not the owner lady that was trying to groom it...the rumor mill has it that she was the one trying to groom this beast. I don't care how much someone insisted I do something, 'tain't nobody gonna made me DO anythang I don' wanna do'
if you like hanging around grooming shops, why not go watch some real professionals?
 
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