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PeoplesElbow

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So there's probably not a requirement for a truck bed, but when you run the math on the cost to up armor something that will stop most 9 mil rounds without any assistance and has an air filtration system leaps and bounds beyond normal ones. If it happens to have a truck bed, that's not a loss.

There's a wide range of countries where our diplomats and other folks are at threat that are not total s*** holes. Places like Buenos Aires San Salvador Santiago.
But it's all a moot point now since Tesla's name has been pulled off of that for just this reason that even the appearance of impropriety should not be allowed
Logistics is another big part of it, guessing the State Dept is somewhat self sufficient and has their own motor pool mechanics that can fix most things. Guessing they don't have any trained to work on high voltage electrical systems and would have to train/hire someone who could. I mean I can't take a Tesla to Joe Mechanic for much other than new tires, guessing after the uproar a lot of Ford dealerships can't service their electric vehicles either.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Logistics is another big part of it, guessing the State Dept is somewhat self sufficient and has their own motor pool mechanics that can fix most things. Guessing they don't have any trained to work on high voltage electrical systems and would have to train/hire someone who could. I mean I can't take a Tesla to Joe Mechanic for much other than new tires, guessing after the uproar a lot of Ford dealerships can't service their electric vehicles either.
Any competent mechanic can work on these things. If you can take the proper precautions to work on a fuel tank, you can work on an EV. Dealerships? That's like the Air Force pulling the Tuskegee Airman video down. A choice, and not forced.

Think about the complexity of a modern gas drivetrain. An EV cuts that number of parts and possible failure points down significantly. One reason people buy the hell out of Tesla's is the the fact that they just work.

Joe can for sure work on this for the things most cars need fixed. Suspension, tires. Not brakes. Broken door handles? other stuff? Its a machine. With the right tools and parts, should be nothing any mechanic cant handle.

Ford dealers chose not to handle EVS as the amount of schedule maint didnt suit them. Hard to upsell the $150 fuel injector cleaning at the 30,000 mile service if there isnt one. Cant sell the transmission flush at 50K if there isnt one. Cant sell pads/rotors for brakes that dont wear. Take your vehicle to a dealership and look over the "recommended" service schedule compared to the manufacturer.
 

PeoplesElbow

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Any competent mechanic can work on these things. If you can take the proper precautions to work on a fuel tank, you can work on an EV. Dealerships? That's like the Air Force pulling the Tuskegee Airman video down. A choice, and not forced.

Think about the complexity of a modern gas drivetrain. An EV cuts that number of parts and possible failure points down significantly. One reason people buy the hell out of Tesla's is the the fact that they just work.

Joe can for sure work on this for the things most cars need fixed. Suspension, tires. Not brakes. Broken door handles? other stuff? Its a machine. With the right tools and parts, should be nothing any mechanic cant handle.

Ford dealers chose not to handle EVS as the amount of schedule maint didnt suit them. Hard to upsell the $150 fuel injector cleaning at the 30,000 mile service if there isnt one. Cant sell the transmission flush at 50K if there isnt one. Cant sell pads/rotors for brakes that dont wear. Take your vehicle to a dealership and look over the "recommended" service schedule compared to the manufacturer.
No argument that they can be figured out, but I've seen tons of stories about how someone couldn't get their EV repaired for a reasonable price and the person had to resort to their own fix, why is that?

I'm coming from the military maintenance point a view, has to be an instruction for everything that has been approved etc. Aircraft maintenance won't even empty the urnial without an approved procedure in place.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
No argument that they can be figured out, but I've seen tons of stories about how someone couldn't get their EV repaired for a reasonable price and the person had to resort to their own fix, why is that?

I'm coming from the military maintenance point a view, has to be an instruction for everything that has been approved etc. Aircraft maintenance won't even empty the urnial without an approved procedure in place.

Because traditional dealerships don't want to be bothered.

Tesla has made this as easy as possible.


Every single maint procedure is right there for free. Complete with color 3d images I wish I could put in my maint manuals. And the ability to rent access to the same software tools the factory and service center use. By the month of year. Not inexpensive at $500 for a month, but when you figure shop rates, not a bad cost at all.

At this point in my life, I have wrenched on nine different models of aircraft and gone from 1960s style books to IETMS and played a bit with augmented reality stuff. I've written procedures as well so I know what you mean. Spent last week on a hands on review for a new overhaul procedure for a thing. Lots of fun.

In fact, it was working on aircraft that convinced me I could work on my cars. Figured if I could test, diagnose and repair weapons systems, no car was going to be harder.

If you can work on anything newer than say the year 2000, theres no reason you cant work on a Tesla.
 

GURPS

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glhs837

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So I really think that Bidens team put Tesla in there solely for this reason as a poison pill. And at 7pm last night it was easy to find reports that Teslas name had been removed long before Ricky B ever said a word. And theres no reason to believe that anyone at Tesla even knew about that addition

 

phreddyp

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One of the things I am worried about DOGE is with the rapidity (is that a word?) of things is accessing the personal information of every American and not taking proper precautions to safeguard my info, my social security number, my Personally Identifiable Information etc.

I don't know if all of these are college aged kids but I've heard a great number of the team is, do you think they understand the gravity of protecting this personal information or will some dumb kid accidently leave it on their MacBook and sell it in a pawn shop in a couple years?

I always question doctor offices when they want it, defense contractors when they say they need it etc.
Although I don't readily give out the information, I already assume that every bit of my personal information is already out there for the taking, if not already taken. That is why I always use 2 factor security and strong passwords and what I mean as strong is anything financial has a minimum of 12 characters.
 

PeoplesElbow

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Although I don't readily give out the information, I already assume that every bit of my personal information is already out there for the taking, if not already taken. That is why I always use 2 factor security and strong passwords and what I mean as strong is anything financial has a minimum of 12 characters.
A few years ago I read the best thing you can do is use different user names for everything, made sense so I been doing that since then.
 

SamSpade

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A few years ago I read the best thing you can do is use different user names for everything, made sense so I been doing that since then.
Many years ago - when I was on Usenet - newsgroups - some guy was careless and used his real identity.

Someone who was pissed at something he’d said online drove across several states to spray his living room with bullets.

Lesson - besides protect your identity - watch what you say. Don’t fall into the trap of acting online in a way you wouldn’t face to face.
 

PJay

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US taxpayer dollars were going to be spent on the following items, all which have been cancelled: - $10M for "Mozambique voluntary medical male circumcision" - $9.7M for UC Berkeley to develop "a cohort of Cambodian youth with enterprise driven skills" - $2.3M for "strengthening independent voices in Cambodia" - $32M to the Prague Civil Society Centre - $40M for "gender equality and women empowerment hub" - $14M for "improving public procurement" in Serbia - $486M to the “Consortium for Elections and Political Process Strengthening,” including $22M for "inclusive and participatory political process" in Moldova and $21M for voter turnout in India - $29M to "strenghening political landscape in Bangladesh" - $20M for "fiscal federalism" in Nepal - $19M for "biodiversity conversation" in Nepal - $1.5M for "voter confidence" in Liberia - $14M for "social cohesion" in Mali - $2.5M for "inclusive democracies in Southern Africa" - $47M for "improving learning outcomes in Asia" - $2M to develop "sustainable recycling models" to "increase socio-economic cohesion among marginalized communities of Kosovo Roma, Ashkali, and Egypt"

 
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