Don Imus, sticks his foot in his mouth...

[PsyOps]

This man looks like the grim repear at a concentration camp and the cotton fields.

So how do you justify this statement as not being bigoted? How do you condemn what others say when you can't even discipline your own speech?

Imus' comments were despicable, just as I found your comment despicable. There is no law against being a bigot or racist. There is, however, protection under the constitution that allows us to say things like this and this same constitution forbids our government from restricting such comments. What folks are demanding of Imus (to be fired) is nothing more than quelling of free speech. If I am wrong then where is the outrage of the likes of Louis Farrakhan (one of the biggest racists on the planet)?

“The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years."

What about Bryant Gumbel when he said:

“So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world’s greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the winter games look like a GOP convention.”

Or how about our very own Rev. Al Sharpton:

"White folks was in caves while we was building empires... We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it."

Where was outrage? Where was the media coverage? Why the double-standard?

 

[Chainsaw Slayer]

I don't know why Imus is apolagizing. He has FU money. He should just tell the NAASP to go F themselves.

What he said isn't that big of a deal. He is even getting a paid week long vacation for saying that. It looks like it worked out in his favor to me.

When people like Jessie Jackson or Sharpton make a big deal about this. It just causes more people to tune into his show to here what its all about.

 

[Pete]

What folks are demanding of Imus (to be fired) is nothing more than quelling of free speech.

I disagree. the government is the only entity that could take away or quell free speech since it is a right they guarantee.

People, being outraged and calling for his firing are also exercising their free speech rights. Just like the Dixie Chicks, they have the right to say whatever, we as consumers have the right to be pizzed and stop listening/buying.

I actually think "free speech" is being misused here. Free speech as I understand it is the right of people to be critical of the government, and those who govern. All other speech is inherently free with the exception of FIRE in the crowded theater. Just like contributing money to a political campaign is "free speech" tuning out, turning off and turning your back on is also free speech.

 

[PsyOps]

I disagree. the government is the only entity that could take away or quell free speech since it is a right they guarantee.

Constitutionally, no they can’t. That’s not to say they wont though. So point taken.

People, being outraged and calling for his firing are also exercising their free speech rights. Just like the Dixie Chicks, they have the right to say whatever, we as consumers have the right to be pizzed and stop listening/buying.

The difference is people stopped listening to the DCs which, for a time, impacted their careers. You have a lobby organizing demanding the firing of Imus; people that probably don’t even listen to his show. The correct method would be to call for a boycott of his show so his audience fails. Not have him fired.

I actually think "free speech" is being misused here. Free speech as I understand it is the right of people to be critical of the government, and those who govern. All other speech is inherently free with the exception of FIRE in the crowded theater. Just like contributing money to a political campaign is "free speech" tuning out, turning off and turning your back on is also free speech.

I’m using the argument that so many others use and throwing it back in their faces. They want it both ways. They want the Jesse Jackson, Al Sharptons, Farrakhans and Gumbels to have their right to offend others with their racist remarks under the guise of free speech. But once they are offended free speech is over. There are no absolutes in our rights. But the best management of free speech is our ability to discipline our behavior. But since our society is growing deeper and deeper with our inability to manage our behavior then… ANYTHING GOES!

 

[appendixqh]

YES rappers say some very disparaging things in their music, it is a problem WE need to solve, but that has nothing to do with nor justify what any racist crap any non-black person blurts out!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why do you make this a black - white, you - them, thing? Black people coined the term Nappy, and I would have to guess they can be credited with the word "Ho" too. (not refering to the Santa Clause Ho-Ho-Ho, but the street term Ho) So, when words that you say are racist and derrogatory are created by the very group of people that take offense if another groups repeats those words...I get confused. Somehow, I was told this was America, a united group of people with ONE dictionary! Apparently I was wrong, and now must find what words are appropriate in a Black or White dictionary. What a PITA!

 

[PsyOps]

So, when words that you say are racist and derrogatory are created by the very group of people that take offense if another groups repeats those words...I get confused. Somehow, I was told this was America, a united group of people with ONE dictionary! Apparently I was wrong, and now must find what words are appropriate in a Black or White dictionary. What a PITA!

Like when George Allen used the word Mukaka (or however you spell it) The black community was all about it. I was amazed that a bunch of people are getting all over a world they had never heard nor knew what the meaning was. I asked black people in my office if they knew what it meant and they said no BUT it sure was offensive. He lost the election of it. I could only go

Another example is when a DC Mayoral staffer (a white guy) used the word "niggardly" in a meeting. The word means: reluctant to give or spend; stingy; miserly.

Because the audience wasn't familiar with the word, and it sounded to close to the "N" word, and instead of doing some homework to educate themselve of the meaning, they knee-jerked on it and got all and had the guy fired.

So, even in legitimate use of our English language, people are so easily stigmatized as racist. This is how rediculous this society has become.

 

[itsbob]

I'd of had a hard time not calling Sharpton a nappyheaded dumbazz. .

Now if Imus had done that I would have applauded, and started listening to his show.. he's another coward that won't stand up to the likes of Sharpton or Jackson.. Who made them the kings of what is and isn't racism for white people?

 

[appendixqh]

This man should've been fired.

How in the H E DOUBLE HOCKEY STICK do u think saying "jiggaboos & nappy headed hoes" is NOT racist?!

So what about the word "Napster" must be a combo...of Nappy and Rapster!

 

[Larry Gude]

That's a damn good point...

why is it everytime a non black person that makes racist remarks about African-Americans always brings up rap music....WTF does that have do with their ass making racist remarks...are rappers the moral leaders of our society-NO..does society gauge right and wrong from what they do and say-NO...so WTF...if a black person offends a white person , do we offer the violence in heavy metal music as justification....rap music is not the summation of the African-American community!!!!!!!! YES rappers say some very disparaging things in their music, it is a problem WE need to solve, but that has nothing to do with nor justify what any racist crap any non-black person blurts out!!!!!!!!!!!!

anytime a white person is in the news for saying some racist crap....the thread gets posted on this board and members proceed to high five and agree with one another and justify the celebs actions using blacks as a reason its "okay" to offend.

Its not.

...atta girl.

 

[Club'nBabySeals]

Imus gets paid to be outrageous, Sharpton and Jackson get paid to be outraged. It's a match made in heaven.

Don't see why that should concern the rest of us though.

 

[Merlin99]

Imus gets paid to be outrageous, Sharpton and Jackson get paid to be outraged. It's a match made in heaven.

Don't see why that should concern the rest of us though.

I've never thought of it that way before, but I think I will remember that way forever now.

 

[juggy4805]

...and a black person will spew the same ignorant statements happy, mad, drunk or sober...especially if it makes for a top selling recording or stand up comedy routine.

Cracker please.



You mean like that.

 

[PsyOps]

Imus gets paid to be outrageous, Sharpton and Jackson get paid to be outraged. It's a match made in heaven.

Don't see why that should concern the rest of us though.

It concerns the rest of us because if they had their way they'd be shutting everyone they disagree with up. When city leaders can lose their jobs over the legitimate use of a word and Imus can get fired for speaking freely, where does that leave you and I?

 

[itsbob]

Cracker please.



You mean like that.

You can call me a cracker, you can call me a redneck.. a honkey or anything else anyone feels is disparaging to a white person. Words have no power over me..

None of it would hurt my feeling one bit.

 

[juggy4805]

You can call me a cracker, you can call me a redneck.. a honkey or anything else anyone feels is disparaging to a white person. Words have no power over me..

None of it would hurt my feeling one bit.

Thats how I feel. None of them pay my bills so I don't care.

 

[itsbob]

It concerns the rest of us because if they had their way they'd be shutting everyone they disagree with up. When city leaders can lose their jobs over the legitimate use of a word and Imus can get fired for speaking freely, where does that leave you and I?

Really, what could be considered more racist than "Chocolate City"?? And against both whites and blacks, but yet nothing was said, and the dumbazzes that live there re-elected the moron.

 

[pingrr]

didn't imus get a paid suspension? If I got a paid suspension I would through a party

 

[Nupe2]

Really, what could be considered more racist than "Chocolate City"?? And against both whites and blacks, but yet nothing was said, and the dumbazzes that live there re-elected the moron.

Are you referring to Mayor Nagin?

The term "Chocolate City" was used for years in referring to the District of Columbia. Just curious why you think that term is racist. Are you just referring to Mayor Nagin's use of the term or the term itself? I always understood it to be a descriptive term for the D.C. given the majority of the population was Black. It had nothing to do with Black or White racism....just a descriptive term. :shrug:

 

[Club'nBabySeals]

Are you referring to Mayor Nagin?

The term "Chocolate City" was used for years in referring to the District of Columbia. Just curious why you think that term is racist. Are you just referring to Mayor Nagin's use of the term or the term itself? I always understood it to be a descriptive term for the D.C. given the majority of the population was Black. It had nothing to do with Black or White racism....just a descriptive term. :shrug:

"Nappy Headed Ho's" isn't descriptive?

 

[PsyOps]

Really, what could be considered more racist than "Chocolate City"?? And against both whites and blacks, but yet nothing was said, and the dumbazzes that live there re-elected the moron.

You need to read back where I provided some other examples. And let's not forget about our infamous Marion Barry.