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glhs837
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You can turn off the proximity feature. How well that works for you depends on your use case. For me, I while I like it, it doesnt work, since I driveway park and walk past the vehicles a lot.
Well, I am a fan, for a few reasons. Nice to see someone turn the OEMs on their ears, not play the "save up feature's for the next model year", and do the stupid packages where you can only get the one thing you want buy buying 15 things you don't. And part of that is not doing a thing simply because everybody else has done it that way for 100 years. I agree, the Prius succeeded where the Insight failed because Toyota made it a good normal car that happened to be a hybrid. But I think the fact that the Model Y is one of the best selling vehicles in the world shows there might be other avenues to success.
Funny you should mention wireless charging. Tesla recently bought a wireless charging company and has given hints it might deploy that in a future version of the Cybertruck. Personally, the losses make it seem silly to me.
So how does it work for bystanders........ Should the owner post a note on the door? I mean heat pumps have been deployed for a few years now, and its not been a problem. If it were, we would have heard by now. As for firefighters, they dont read the onwers manual, but they should read the first responder sheets Tesla promulgates. I would like to think they would have the presence of mind to say hmmmm, it doesnt smell like burning stuff, maybe its not on fire. No heat, no smell, just vapor.
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PeoplesElbow
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Wireless charging is very inefficient, but for many that will be the only way they will accept BEVs.You can turn off the proximity feature. How well that works for you depends on your use case. For me, I while I like it, it doesnt work, since I driveway park and walk past the vehicles a lot.
Well, I am a fan, for a few reasons. Nice to see someone turn the OEMs on their ears, not play the "save up feature's for the next model year", and do the stupid packages where you can only get the one thing you want buy buying 15 things you don't. And part of that is not doing a thing simply because everybody else has done it that way for 100 years. I agree, the Prius succeeded where the Insight failed because Toyota made it a good normal car that happened to be a hybrid. But I think the fact that the Model Y is one of the best selling vehicles in the world shows there might be other avenues to success.
Funny you should mention wireless charging. Tesla recently bought a wireless charging company and has given hints it might deploy that in a future version of the Cybertruck. Personally, the losses make it seem silly to me.
So how does it work for bystanders........ Should the owner post a note on the door? I mean heat pumps have been deployed for a few years now, and its not been a problem. If it were, we would have heard by now. As for firefighters, they dont read the onwers manual, but they should read the first responder sheets Tesla promulgates. I would like to think they would have the presence of mind to say hmmmm, it doesnt smell like burning stuff, maybe its not on fire. No heat, no smell, just vapor.
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As far as bystanders go I bet you will see false alarms for 20 years.
glhs837
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Crap like this is why Tesla owns that market. GM's facing the same sort of issue with its EVs. They put a stop sale on the new Blazers.
VWs CEO has said their EV software system is a piece of crap and he doesn't know when he'll be able to fix it.
Think I've been saying for some time the legacies need to unlearn 100 years of how to do things before they can do this successfully.
glhs837
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See that's what I don't understand. People are fine handling a hose filled with flammable liquids refuel their cars with virtually no safety systems at all. What about plugging your car in gets them the heebie-jeebies?
And hopefully first responders say "Do you smell burning? No? Have a good day thanks for calling.". Same way folks don't call when they see steam rising from a city sidewalk.
PeoplesElbow
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It isn't being scared of it, it is doing it every day.
When I bought my hybrid the very first thing the girlfriend did was scrunch up her nose and ask if I had to plug it in all the time.
This is going to sound sexist, and it may be, but most women can't remember to put their car keys in the same spot so they know where they are, they definitely don't want to remember to charge their car.
glhs837
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I suppose. I mean they remember to put gas in, or get their man to. Maybe its also partly that they view it as being akin to plugging in a generator? Some industrial process? Of course, you don't need to plug in every day unless you bought some tiny range thing like a Mini or a E-Golf. With a 280-300 mile range, you could just set a reminder to plug in once or twice a week.
PeoplesElbow
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There is that concept of remembering.
With gas the little light comes on that says fill up now, chances are you are within distance of somewhere you can do that and it takes 5 minutes.
I'm hoping cars won't operate with the electric plugged in like they can with the gas pump. I'm actually surprised there isn't a kill switch required if the pump is in the hole.
Just thought about what they should do for the heat pump steam .....an exhaust pipe just like an ICE.
glhs837
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Nope, being plugged in disables the motors. Cant drive away with the cable in. Your range remaining is right in front of you the whole time, or in a Tesla a little to the left
One of the bennies of getting into the plug in habit is that outside of road trips, you simply never worry about stopping for fuel. They could add an extra part that serves no real purpose other than to head idiots who panic over nothing off a the pass. It doesnt happen every time, just under certain conditions. And like I said, they have sold over a million Model Ys around the world since 2020. If it were larger problem, I think we would know. One guy overreacting isnt a reason to change things.
PeoplesElbow
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It only doing it occasionally is why I think it is a problem vs if it did it all the time.Nope, being plugged in disables the motors. Cant drive away with the cable in. Your range remaining is right in front of you the whole time, or in a Tesla a little to the left
They could add an extra part that serves no real purpose other than to head idiots who panic over nothing off a the pass. It doesn't happen every time, just under certain conditions. And like I said, they have sold over a million Model Ys around the world since 2020. If it were larger problem, I think we would know. One guy overreacting isnt a reason to change things.
It coming out of an obvious port, whether a tailpipe or a smoke stack etc would make it more specific than just a general fog coming out from under the car. I've seen a small lithium battery fire and it was frightening, it was in a "fire sack" and was hit with three fire extinguishers and a 5 gallon bucket of sand before it was under control.
glhs837
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But that's my point, nobody has had a problem with besides the guy who went all DefCon on it despite over a million being sold, quite a few of which have gone to Canada, the northern US, and all over Scandanavia.
People use judgement. You know that burning things smell. Smoke without a smell is not usually something burning. No heat, no fumes, no smell, no flames. Why assume fire when literally not one other indicator is present?
PeoplesElbow
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I've smelled "hot" with no visible smoke, and I've seen smoke close without noticing a smell.
The lithium battery fire I saw was pretty close, I don't think I could recognize the smell even after being a few feet from one. I'd also wager most people never experienced one close either.
This guy doesn't mention anything about a smell until after the fire, very similar to the fire I witnessed, that pack was in a fire bag, but was also twice the size of this one. I bet his tile is still marked.
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PeoplesElbow
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Specialized exhaust ports on that horse.
glhs837
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PeoplesElbow
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Good thing he is putting water on it. Water puts out horse fires quite well.
Kinnakeet
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Make it shiney and THEY will buy em up like crazy