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You can see that with your own eyes so it doesn't count. Only observations done by third parties are acceptable.
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PeoplesElbow
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I've always beat the EPA estimates for mileage, even back in the 90s when their testing was a bit easier to achieve high mileage. I've seen people complain to no end online when they couldn't achieve the EPA MPG on their new car. (It's their driving style btw).
I'd imagine with a BEV the average consumer would be very unhappy.
I'd imagine with a BEV the average consumer would be very unhappy.
glhs837
Power with Control
I've never said that. Your eyewitness accounts are valid as far as what you eyewitnessed. What they are not valid for is trying to extrapolate those eyewitness results into global statements of fact that apply to everything of that type. If he were to say that all Saturns lasted 200K and returned that same MPG over that 200k wouldn't be valid.
Well, that can’t be!
Our resident, EV lobbyist assured us that was fake news.
Nope, I did no such thing. I quoted a line from the same article that he posted that places these losses into a different context.
You have been inferring that very thing for over two years. Don't try to bullshit your way out of that, it ain't gonna work.
Please try again.
glhs837
Power with Control
You have been inferring that very thing for over two years. Don't try to bullshit your way out of that, it ain't gonna work.
Please try again.
Nope, I firmly believe your neighbors have had two EVs they hate. Anecdotal stories can be true. What they cant be is validation that the facts in that story are universal facts.
That would be akin to me saying that since my two neighbors, both widows, have shown no signs of remarrying, it must be true that no widows over the age of 60 intend to remarry. To quote myself - Anecdotal data isn't.
Keep strokin baby .
glhs837
Power with Control
Sounds like you can't refute anything so you just sound off to make noise....
PeoplesElbow
Well-Known Member
This is the sort of thing that really bothers me. I don't trust the exaggeration, the statistics etc from Tesla. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...ing-cheap-tricks-to-report-uptime-234383.html
Now you are whining. Want some cheese?Sounds like you can't refute anything so you just sound off to make noise....
Tesla is good with PR, you got to give them credit.
glhs837
Power with Control
Goodbye until you have a valid point
Well, they could use that to cover a lot of downtime. Note we have no proof they do that, but they could. But perhaps a better metric is in the customers.... Were Tesla hiding a bunch of downtime behind that stat, it should show in the customer satisfaction, right?
Now you are seething.Goodbye until you have a valid point
Well, they could use that to cover a lot of downtime. Note we have no proof they do that, but they could. But perhaps a better metric is in the customers.... Were Tesla hiding a bunch of downtime behind that stat, it should show in the customer satisfaction, right?
PeoplesElbow
Well-Known Member
That's a low C IMHO.Goodbye until you have a valid point
Well, they could use that to cover a lot of downtime. Note we have no proof they do that, but they could. But perhaps a better metric is in the customers.... Were Tesla hiding a bunch of downtime behind that stat, it should show in the customer satisfaction, right?
Ford and GM failed.
glhs837
Power with Control
Man, you really can't get that I'm a pretty happy guy and these conversations are entertainment, can you? You keep ascribing emotions to me that I'm simply not having. The feeling a cat has swatting a mouse from paw to paw? Maybe that one
If we can ever meet at a Cars and Coffee we should, I think we could have a good discussion while talking about other cars. See, I think with over four million sold, we exhausted cult members a while ago. Out of the now four owners I know personally, none are "cult members". They are not members of any clubs, they don't follow Elon, in two cases they actively dislike him. They just like the cars and drive them like normal humans. They like not having to fill up with gas, they like not having much routine maint. They like the SC network. Two are NAVAIR engineers, one is a program management type, the other owns a local popular restaurant.