Elementary Schools Not Safe

OccamsRazor

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Taking with a grain of salt...
IF this shooter is indeed a transgender latino, there is going to be a lot of narrow brush strokes to paint this picture.
 

herb749

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Why on the news is there no discussion on the shooter. With the Buffalo incident it was known right away but still screwed up on the blame. All the news this morning is guns & school security.
 

Tech

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Good reason to have armed SROs at every school. It worked at GMHS, only one innocent life lost, not twenty-one.
Even then it took a couple of minutes to confront the shooter, if he wanted to shoot others he could have easily done it.
 

herb749

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Even then it took a couple of minutes to confront the shooter, if he wanted to shoot others he could have easily done it.

Didn't the Florida school have a SRO, but he ran out the back door. The Buffalo shooter shot the unarmed security guy 1st.
 

DaSDGuy

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Even then it took a couple of minutes to confront the shooter, if he wanted to shoot others he could have easily done it.
Woulda coulda shoulda. The results speak for themselves. And it was less than 60 seconds.
 

Tech

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Woulda coulda shoulda. The results speak for themselves. And it was less than 60 seconds.
From the timeline released by the sheriff it was 3 minutes even though the deputy was not far away. If the child had real evil intentions he could have barricaded in a room. Just arm the teachers.
 

herb749

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From the timeline released by the sheriff it was 3 minutes even though the deputy was not far away. If the child had real evil intentions he could have barricaded in a room. Just arm the teachers.


He was actually killed by a border agent who came to the school when he heard the call.
 

SamSpade

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I never get why someone thinks gun control would have stopped this tragedy.

You what would have? Or might have?

1. Better followup on a known dangerous person.
2. LOCKING the damned side doors. Geez. EVERY elementary school does that.
3. An ARMED resource person at the school. If it is too expensive, there are scores of retired persons who would love to volunteer.

Blaming gun companies when there are more guns than people in this country is pointless.
OUTLAWING guns will not stop someone who is intent on committing a crime with a gun - if they plan to KILL a lot of people, they're not terribly worried about getting a gun that's illegal.

I'm reminded repeatedly that the only way - usually - to stop someone with a gun - is another person with a gun.
And that's how all of these have ended. They just didn't get there in time.
 

TPD

the poor dad

HemiHauler

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Perfect idea. Let’s load up schools with armed agents - gotta get our yutes used to 100% police presence in all aspects of life. :crazy:

I swear, there is no societal issue that can’t be solved by an increased government presence in our lives.
 

Merlin99

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Maybe instead of always blaming the guns & not the shooter, we should be looking at the reasons why people want to do these things. What has changed that someone would want to shoot a bunch of people. Why all this anger.

And the whole remove all the guns BS. If someone is out to harm people they will use other means. Instead of shooting people in a school, they blow up the school instead.
Inability to parent. Parents have been told thousands of times over the last 30 years that any kind of punishment would be cause for child protective services to step in.

No male role model. Kids are growing up without a strong father figure in the household. The guy who's occasionally there doesn't want to see a kid, much less interact with him. The fathers from TV for the last two decades have one and all been bumbling doofuses.

Extremely violent / realistic video games. Kids have seen thousands of simulated murders by the time they make it to high school. When I first learned to hunt and fish the thought of killing something and then gutting and skinning it would make me physically ill, after killing hundreds of animals I can gut a deer while eating a sandwich.

The glorification of the child. In the past, kids were traditionally polite and quiet. The parents were the important part of the family. Now parents are expected to live for their kids. They are in a constant rush to get home to get the kids to soccer, gymnastics, softball…Spending their entire weekends at beauty pageants or basketball tournaments.

Narcissism. Today’s kids worry more about their on line presence than their own privacy or safety. Their obsessiveness with posting their own exploits causes them to want to have more exploits.
 

SamSpade

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Perfect idea. Let’s load up schools with armed agents - gotta get our yutes used to 100% police presence in all aspects of life. :crazy:

I swear, there is no societal issue that can’t be solved by an increased government presence in our lives.
I don't know another way to deal with it. People are killing children.

I see two possibilities - you make sure there aren't any crazy people that are armed - or you STOP crazy people when they show up.
The first one is, in my opinion, impossible. The second one is easily doable.


If there's another way, I don't know about it.

I don't know how it is we got to this point. We can try to assign blame, but it won't stop the next person.
 

WingsOfGold

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Well we all knew Joe Biden would blame it on guns.
We also know guns do not shoot themselves and some human had to pull the trigger.
We also know if they stopped making guns today and never sold another one the shootings would not stop because there are millions of guns in this country already, and Americans are not going to go down like Australia.

Of all killings this one is the most inexcusable yet. Children Elementary School children. What kind of a lunatic goes to a grade school and murders kids.? The most innocent of us all.
Say what you like but simple fact is we live in an abortive society which that mindset alone puts no value on human life, no matter how young. ☹️
 
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