Elon Musk - Words and Commentary
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Once again it comes down to the average American, "college educated or a drop out" is a moron and is incapable of thinking and assembling information.
glhs837
Power with Control
Boeing and the IAM together made a powerful voice. Joe kept one ear just for the unions to whisper commands into. Had that since he was a junior politician.
It's like one step up and two steps back. I think, well, I misjudged my fellow Americans, look at them stepping up.....then they go right back to nonsense.
CPUSA
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I'll prefer to use my own common sense & believe she was a part of writing up the lies that she told...that entire regime, to include any State & Local Democrat that participated on stood by in silence as their wretched party helped to destroy America should be lined up, executed, & dumped in landfills. They don't even deserve the dignity of a mass grave...and idiots like you should be treated just like the Marxist supporter & collaborator that you sound like
CPUSA
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can you name any ESSENTIAL HARD WORKING personnel that lost their job?
No, because it's only the useless ticks that are there during attendance for more funding that are getting cut loose.
You sound more concerned about the grifters drawing an obscene welfare check from the Gov't than you are about the waste...
There's a problem with MASSIVE Gov't waste/theft...And you sound like a huge part of the problem...
Clem72
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Who didn't see this coming? Can't get child support if you don't have the child.
BOP
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I'd heard of USAID, but that was pretty much the extent of my knowledge.
BOP
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How is that different from just about every other enterprise out there, from small business to mega corporations?
I've been in the military, worked a wide variety of blue collar jobs, have been in the white collar world, and retired from the DoD. The Bell Curve (or Normal Distribution, if one subscribes to the theory that the Bell Curve is...er, be raysis), man, the Bell Curve.
I've noticed it as a customer. Mama Lucia's, formerly of Prince Fred, now in Dunkird, where most people who worked there were family, was one of the worst examples I've seen in many a day.
Even in college...or especially in college. Want to see it in action? Assign a group project, especially one that dictates your final grade.
"Ooo, but we pay their salaries!" As though Government workers are somehow exempt from taxes.
Jeebus.
BOP
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One of the impediments that both Trump and Musk have is that they are both uber-wealthy businessmen. That is their blind spot; the cost of doing business is primarily the cost of employees.
I don't think one can find a business person in charge of a large or small company that doesn't bemoan that single biggest cost of doing business.
It's the main reason the vast majority of the stuff we buy is made off-shore; to lower those labor costs. Yet another thing to thank the Walton family for, and I don't mean the ones on TV.
Add in the immense pressure from share-holders (the major ones) for ever-increasing profits and damn the costs, and yes; reduction in the workforce is always their answer.
BOP
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Like any enterprise, large or small, the "best" employees are nearly always the ones who can play the political games; who know who to kiss up to. In the military, they're called "Blue Falcons," which, for those grabastic civilians out there, is a euphemism for "Buddy F*cker."
BOP
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I survived 6 rounds of layoffs in the aircraft manufacturing industry in Tulsa before the axe man came for me. I worked for a while as a dishwasher and a cook. Ended up in Houston, TX for the promise of a job in the oil industry, surveying drill sites. Well, it was the '80s, and I think we know what was going on in the '80s. I'm not sad Jimmah is gone. I ended up working construction until I got hurt, then I cleaned carpets and delivered pizza to some really sketch areas of town. I did carry, and I had a partner riding shotgun...literally.
I ended up going to Los Angeles to paint houses with an old shipmate...until he started having major marital issues. I went out on my own, again, with a partner, until the bottom fell out of that. Then I went to San Diego (or back, actually) and picked up a lot of temporary jobs from phone sales to digging irrigation ditches, to cooking.
The problem was that the once recession-proof Golden State was nearly in the poor house because of the public largess - or the politicians giving away the people's money to every Tom, Dick, and Julio.
Next, I went to Florida, then to Indiana, to Tulsa, and back out to San Diego before I finally found steady work in the automotive business. But guess what? Times were tough, and fixing their cars is one of those things people put on the back burner, and when you don't get paid an hourly or salary, as the vast majority of mechanics do not, it's a struggle. It's a real struggle.
Here's the deal, Vrai: when you lose your job, especially if you haven't yet gotten established, it takes TIME to build that back up. Especially if you're scraping by on minimum wage, pickup jobs, rent-a-wino, donating blood and/or plasma, living on $1.10 burritos from Alberto's, and sleeping in your car and showering at the YMCA or the beach. Lunch was the burrito, supper was often scraping enough change together to go to a bar with happy hour eats like chicken wings or whatnot; buying A beer that cost as much as a 12-pack of Brown Derby and filling up on the horses durves.
I used to get up in the middle of winter in Tulsa, and later, in San Diego and Los Angeles to go downtown to put my name on a list so I could pick up day work unloading box-cars or stacking steel girders for interstate power line towers hot out of the galvanizing tank. Actually, that one led to a full-time job that paid something like $5-something an hour...about half (or less) of what I'd been making at McDonnell-Douglas aircraft.
Working 12 hours M-F (4:00 in the evening to 5:00 in the morning), then working the OPPOSITE shift on Saturday. That was in Tulsa, and it was a finger-factory. Which meant people regularly lost fingers or other body parts...and were promptly fired for it, once ER had patched them up. I knew a guy, running a machine I normally ran, who lost 2 of his fingers. Went to the ER on his lunch break (didn't report it), got it taped and stitched up and came back to work because he didn't want to lose his job.
Sure, people can get jobs, Vrai. But what kind of jobs can they get? Certainly not well-paying; not in this day and age. Not when companies, on top of everything else, are actively (or passively) not hiring white males.
It does and I had some sympathy for them...until they started going on social media (including here) and showing their true colors. They think they're owed these jobs, entitled to them, and they think they shouldn't have to do anything to keep their job. They shouldn't have to go in to work; they shouldn't have to report to a superior; they shouldn't have to answer an email. Things that are completely normal in the private sector, govvies bitch and moan about like it's omg SO unheard of. Torture! Tyranny!
And I feel especially sorry for them because they'll never make it on the outside. They don't have the work ethic to work for real company that actually needs to have things done and doesn't have an unlimited piggy bank. They aren't used to being accountable.
I'm sure there are any number of worthwhile govt employees - there has to be - but what I'm seeing are spoiled entitled adults who are no great loss. They're so spoiled they don't even realize how ridiculous they sound. It's not like every one of them will be fired - the govt still needs humans to run it. This is just culling the herd.
My problem with DOGE cuts is that they need to start at the top, not the bottom. Joe Schmo didn't turn his dept into a mess; his boss' boss' boss' boss did that. Political payback results in bad leadership, so now you have this unqualified unaccountable dipshit at the top and everyone below him is running amok. It's not Joe Schmo's fault - he just has to suffer the consequences, and that's not right.
In my travels I always liked to check out the local RE market and job market. What do these people do and what's their cost of living? Part of it was scouting for my own future, where's a good place to be? And there are a TON of places where I thought, man if you're unemployed here you must be some kind of loser because look at all this industry and opportunities!
But those places are NOT DC or the surrounding area. They are NOT NYC or LA. And they aren't sit on your ass at home playing computer games on the clock jobs. People like to bitch and cry but they don't like to take control of their future - they don't want to chase success, they want success to show up on their doorstep with no effort on their part.
It sounds like you actively chased success and I respect that because me too. You do what you have to do. And I don't have a lot of patience with crybabies who think they're owed a living while the rest of us are out hustling.
BOP
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This. This right here is what I've been advocating for several years. Take off the top 2 layers; the SES level, and the GS-15 level. The GS-12s and 13s are the ones who get the work done. Let the GS-14s sink or swim. I know some really good ones.It does and I had some sympathy for them...until they started going on social media (including here) and showing their true colors. They think they're owed these jobs, entitled to them, and they think they shouldn't have to do anything to keep their job. They shouldn't have to go in to work; they shouldn't have to report to a superior; they shouldn't have to answer an email. Things that are completely normal in the private sector, govvies bitch and moan about like it's omg SO unheard of. Torture! Tyranny!
And I feel especially sorry for them because they'll never make it on the outside. They don't have the work ethic to work for real company that actually needs to have things done and doesn't have an unlimited piggy bank. They aren't used to being accountable.
I'm sure there are any number of worthwhile govt employees - there has to be - but what I'm seeing are spoiled entitled adults who are no great loss. They're so spoiled they don't even realize how ridiculous they sound. It's not like every one of them will be fired - the govt still needs humans to run it. This is just culling the herd.
My problem with DOGE cuts is that they need to start at the top, not the bottom. Joe Schmo didn't turn his dept into a mess; his boss' boss' boss' boss did that. Political payback results in bad leadership, so now you have this unqualified unaccountable dipshit at the top and everyone below him is running amok. It's not Joe Schmo's fault - he just has to suffer the consequences, and that's not right.
