Employment @ Lexington Park

[chess]

Bachelors degree in Business Administration. He has an interim clearance.

He shouldnt have any problems getting a job esepcially with Business Admin.... send me a pm... i may be able to help out...

 

[Toxick]

Do you think its a who you know atmosphere around here instead of what you know?

I do not think this. I didn't know anybody when I snapped up my first professional job.

The reason I got my job is because of experience. I've been fiddling with computers since I was 12 years old. I am self-taught, and when it came time to find a job, I pounded the pavement, and landed one. I didn't get one in my chosen field right off the bat, but I got one that was close, and I went from there.

Perhaps I got lucky, or perhaps not - but it is possible to find a job even if you don't have connections.

Answer me this...How in the world do you gain experience besides learning and applying yourself in the classroom if you've been going to school full-time?

It's the circle of life.

Credit is the same way - you can't get loans until you establish credit, and you can't establish credit unless you get loans.

It also depends on the types of jobs you're looking to get - if you're fresh out of college you're simply not going to waltz into one of these companies, and be an executive, or a manager, or whatever - not when you're competing with other people who have degrees and many years of experience on top of it. Start at the bottom and work your way up. It takes time, but it'll happen.

I see people with no experience and NO education get great jobs because of someone they know.

I've never actually seen this happen.

I've heard people say it often enough that I no longer dismiss it. Perhaps there are people who get their jobs through networking, but don't discount the testimony of people (like me) who managed to get a good job through simple perseverance and knowledge.

Just isn't fair. It almost makes you feel like a degree is just a piece of paper.

To an extent, a degree is simply a piece of paper. On the other hand it's not.

For instance, I have no degree. I am a self-taught engineer. I've been self-teaching myself since I was 12 years old. I've been a professional engineer for about 15 years now. I have a good job, and I love what I do.

However: I have hit a glass ceiling. I know just as much as my collegues (and more than some), but most of them make more money than I do, and I'm passed over for promotions because I have no degree, and not quite enough experience for management positions. My boss has been pushing me to finish college since I've been here, so that he can give me raises and promotions and things, because without the piece of paper his hands are tied.

So the paper won't GET you a job - but it will prevent many doors from being closed to you.

 

[millertc]

Bachelors degree in Business Administration. He has an interim clearance.

my DH works for a contractor in Lex. Park and I believe they have a few openings.....if you would like I could send your friends resume' They are always looking for people with Bachelors. DH is a Financial Analyst, he is going for a degree in Info. Tech. so he hopes to land a job at a Help Desk soon. PM me his resume if you like and I will forward to hubby

 

[Midnightrider]

Well it depends what that degree is in. If he majored in liberal arts then he is getting exactly what he should have expected.

It also depends if he went to a real (accredited) school or not. The school I got my degree from had a career services center that actually got you interviews while you were in your last semester. That is how I got my job.

can you even do that?

I got a degree from a liberal arts school, but its in a defined major, and i hear all the time that employers like to see the BA associated with your degree becasue it shows that you have a broader education.


Of course i didn't have any problem finding a JOB out of college either.

 

[chess]

I know people that have gotten jobs because of who they know. You see it alot especially with the govt on pax and webster field. My dad is reitred civil service dod employee of 33 years. I have seen it in all shapes and forms. They are taking a risk though if they go out on the limb for you and you #$#$ something up.

Its not as prevelant as today as it was 5-10 years ago, but it still happens.

I landed my first job in the IT world because of who I knew... not what I knew... It has been almost 4 years out of college, and have moved onto a better position and different company.

There would have been no way I could havent gotten this job without a degree.. due to several reasons

 

[mdgirlie]

I do not think this. I didn't know anybody when I snapped up my first professional job.

The reason I got my job is because of experience. I've been fiddling with computers since I was 12 years old. I am self-taught, and when it came time to find a job, I pounded the pavement, and landed one. I didn't get one in my chosen field right off the bat, but I got one that was close, and I went from there.

Perhaps I got lucky, or perhaps not - but it is possible to find a job even if you don't have connections.




It's the circle of life.

Credit is the same way - you can't get loans until you establish credit, and you can't establish credit unless you get loans.

It also depends on the types of jobs you're looking to get - if you're fresh out of college you're simply not going to waltz into one of these companies, and be an executive, or a manager, or whatever - not when you're competing with other people who have degrees and many years of experience on top of it. Start at the bottom and work your way up. It takes time, but it'll happen.



I've never actually seen this happen.

I've heard people say it often enough that I no longer dismiss it. Perhaps there are people who get their jobs through networking, but don't discount the testimony of people (like me) who managed to get a good job through simple perseverance and knowledge.



To an extent, a degree is simply a piece of paper. On the other hand it's not.

For instance, I have no degree. I am a self-taught engineer. I've been self-teaching myself since I was 12 years old. I've been a professional engineer for about 15 years now. I have a good job, and I love what I do.

However: I have hit a glass ceiling. I know just as much as my collegues (and more than some), but most of them make more money than I do, and I'm passed over for promotions because I have no degree, and not quite enough experience for management positions. My boss has been pushing me to finish college since I've been here, so that he can give me raises and promotions and things, because without the piece of paper his hands are tied.

So the paper won't GET you a job - but it will prevent many doors from being closed to you.

Trust me, I have seen many people skip levels on the totem pole ONLY because their families or best friends were well established in a company. I got my last 2 jobs from hard work. I am working on my Master's degree so that I won't ever have to go through the hardships of landing a full time professional job again. I am also not ruling out hard work without papers. Some people can't afford post-secondary education and I think that it shows character when people without money work hard to get ahead. I remember working 20 hour weekends during college just so I could have spending money for groceries, school supplies, and clothes. Looking back, this was definitely hard because I was a scholarship athlete and going to school full time. But I look back and all that hard work has defined who I am today.

 

[BuddyLee]

Entering my senior year now, so...

...for the immediate future reference, if one wanted to obtain a security clearence for the future, how would you go about doing so?

 

[ShyGirl]

Try the College of Southern Maryland Career Services site. Most employers who list job openings with colleges, expect to hire entry level professionals.

http://www.csmd.edu/CareerServices/

 

[Midnightrider]

step 1:
Stop trying to overthrow the US government!


j/k
I never got one before i got hired. the companies usually have a whole division dedicated to helping you get your clearance

 

[DoWhat]

Entering my senior year now, so...

...for the immediate future reference, if one wanted to obtain a security clearence for the future, how would you go about doing so?

Call the White House and ask for George.:anothertonio:

 

[BadGirl]

Entering my senior year now, so...

...for the immediate future reference, if one wanted to obtain a security clearence for the future, how would you go about doing so?

YOU don't go about getting a clearance. The company that you hire on with goes about getting one for you. You can make the job of obtaining a clearance easier by staying out of trouble, paying your bills on time, and keeping your nose clean, but there is nothing that you can do to get a clearance on your own.

 

[Shannie0308]

I have a friend that has been actively seeking employment in the Lexington Park area for a year now. He has a Bachelor's degree and clean history, but hasn't been able to pick up a professional job. Do you think its a who you know atmosphere around here instead of what you know? Most people tell him that he didn't get the job because of lack of experience. I had the same problem when I was actively seeking full time permanent employment. Answer me this...How in the world do you gain experience besides learning and applying yourself in the classroom if you've been going to school full-time? I see people with no experience and NO education get great jobs because of someone they know. Just isn't fair. It almost makes you feel like a degree is just a piece of paper.

I have the same problem. All through high school & college I worked as a Receptionist. I now have my degree in Criminal Justice and can't find anything to do with it. Receptionist experience doesn't help a CJ kind of job, so IMO my resume is weak. Good Luck to him

 

[czygvtwkr]

I have the same problem. All through high school & college I worked as a Receptionist. I now have my degree in Criminal Justice and can't find anything to do with it. Receptionist experience doesn't help a CJ kind of job, so IMO my resume is weak. Good Luck to him

Did you stop and think what can I do with a criminal justice degree before you decided to get one?

 

[BuddyLee]

YOU don't go about getting a clearance. The company that you hire on with goes about getting one for you. You can make the job of obtaining a clearance easier by staying out of trouble, paying your bills on time, and keeping your nose clean, but there is nothing that you can do to get a clearance on your own.

Gotcha.

I've heard that depending on the type of job that a clearance can take awhile. Just wanted to try to be a step ahead of the game.

 

[BuddyLee]

I have the same problem. All through high school & college I worked as a Receptionist. I now have my degree in Criminal Justice and can't find anything to do with it. Receptionist experience doesn't help a CJ kind of job, so IMO my resume is weak. Good Luck to him

Don't know if it will help you 'now' but a forumite (Pandora) posted something pertaining to this. There were a few job openings a little while ago, don't know about now though.

 

[Shannie0308]

Did you stop and think what can I do with a criminal justice degree before you decided to get one?

Obviously I wouldnt go to school for 4 years with no ideas as to what I wanted to do once I finished. Since then my goals have changed. What I wanted to do isn't realistic with a family, which I now have.

 

[Shannie0308]

Don't know if it will help you 'now' but a forumite (Pandora) posted something pertaining to this. There were a few job openings a little while ago, don't know about now though.

I found that post, looks to be very informative. Thanks so much

 

[czygvtwkr]

Gotcha.

I've heard that depending on the type of job that a clearance can take awhile. Just wanted to try to be a step ahead of the game.

A lower level interm only takes a few weeks. The real clearance usually takes 12-18 months depending on who the requestor is.

 

[chess]

A lower level interm only takes a few weeks. The real clearance usually takes 12-18 months depending on who the requestor is.

It took me 2 days to get my internim secret, and took 9 months for my top secret, they now do it all via internet not paper anymore its suppose to speed up the process... but they halted clearances about 3-4 months ago, but started the process up and have unhalted them since...

 

[BuddyLee]

A lower level interm only takes a few weeks. The real clearance usually takes 12-18 months depending on who the requestor is.

So would I start this job asap or would I have to wait a few weeks?

If I did start this job and for some odd reason the clearance came back negative a whole year to year and a half later, would I just get booted out of the job?

How does this whole thing work, really?