False Prophets

dazed&fallen

fine artist
oh and you remember that guy Dr James Dobson that did a radio talk show. he really pushed traditional family values and spanking your kids. i have fantasies about spanking him. :lmao:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
gumbo said:
So just maybe he might have some pity on me and not throw my butt into the lake of fire called hell along with Jimmy Swagart , Billy Gram and a bunch of other TV money grubbing Idiots along with a bunch of Popes and 2A
Yes 2a if your reading this your going to hell also don't kid yourself.
You read the Bible enough , I am sure you have read the passage that will condemn you to hell. However if you are putting a blind eye to this part , in which you more than likely are I shall point it out for you .
I am really surprised that with all the finger pointing back at you that no one has pointed The totally obvious out to you .
Hint, do you still have all your guns ?
Hint, do you really have faith in the Lord ?
Hint , read above post made by Elaine.
If you have got rid of them I'm wrong and I humbly apologize.
If not see you at Hells party
Ah. I see that you have taken on the God's job of deciding who and who is not going to hell by name.

Yes, I still have my weapons. Please quote any passage from the Bible that states that weapons are wrong to have. And the commandment is "Thou shall not murder.", not "Thou shall not kill." which have two entirely different connotations. Ever read the account of David and Goliath, the Philistine giant (1 Samuel 17)?

Who knows? Maybe I am on the road to hell like most. The road and gate to hell is wide; Christians are to enter by the narrow gate. I trust in God to be faithful to His word that I am forgiven because I agree with Him that I am a sinner and I ask Him to forgive me. When He died on the cross, He knew every sin I, or anyone else, would ever commit. He died for them all. He died for all of us through all history. It is up to us to accept or reject Him. I have accepted Him, so I trust in His forgiveness. I will know for sure the day I pass from this world.
 
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Kizzy

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dazed&fallen said:
at least hell has better music :getdown:


There is tons of Christian music that is fantastic. Have you ever listened to Sandi Patty, Rachel Lampa, Jennifer Knapp, Point of Grace, Amy Grant, Twilla Parris, Crystan Lewis? The list goes on and on of terrific Christian music, so much so, that I could only listen to that forever and be happy.
 

dazed&fallen

fine artist
Kizzy said:
There is tons of Christian music that is fantastic. Have you ever listened to Sandi Patty, Rachel Lampa, Jennifer Knapp, Point of Grace, Amy Grant, Twilla Parris, Crystan Lewis? The list goes on and on of terrific Christian music, so much so, that I could only listen to that forever and be happy.

i think i would prefer eternal damnation but to each is own.
 

gumbo

FIGHT CLUB !
2ndAmendment said:
Ah. I see that you have taken on the God's job of deciding who and who is not going to hell by name.
Other than you and I that list is easy, Jesus let it be know that they have the same chance of getting into heaven as it would be to put a camel through the eye of a needle , So that only leaves one other place.
And how did they get their money ? Last I recall Jesus nor his disciples excepted anything but food and shelter.
They don't live in a modest house or drive a modest car and they encourage people to give more while they get rich. Do churches really need to be built on prime real estate? Money Money Money and we know what the bible says about Greed. No man can serve God and Money ?
I wonder how many of them have enough faith to really believe that God shall provide and give up all their personal money.
Those who teach will be judged the harshest.

The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment. 1 Co 2;15
I am spiritual so I am allowed ! As for the second part of this , their real faith is at question, is it love of money or love of God, can't serve both ,so I am still allowed.
 
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gumbo

FIGHT CLUB !
2ndAmendment said:
And the commandment is "Thou shall not murder.", not "Thou shall not kill." which have two entirely different connotations.
Come on now this is weak , Now who doesn't know this :ohwell:
 

gumbo

FIGHT CLUB !
2ndAmendment said:
Yes, I still have my weapons. Please quote any passage from the Bible that states that weapons are wrong to have. And the commandment is "Thou shall not murder.", not "Thou shall not kill." which have two entirely different connotations. Ever read the account of David and Goliath, the Philistine giant (1 Samuel 17)?

Who knows? Maybe I am on the road to hell like most. The road and gate to hell is wide; Christians are to enter by the narrow gate. I trust in God to be faithful to His word that I am forgiven because I agree with Him that I am a sinner and I ask Him to forgive me. When He died on the cross, He knew every sin I, or anyone else, would ever commit. He died for them all. He died for all of us through all history. It is up to us to accept or reject Him. I have accepted Him, so I trust in His forgiveness. I will know for sure the day I pass from this world.

It,s not the weapons. Can you go to heaven if you do not truly believe in the Lord ? Can you go to heaven if you don't have faith in the Lord ?
Should not Faith and Love be your weapons , your armor of all that is evil Eph 6:10
Should you turn the other cheek with a Gun Lk 6:27, 29
You don't think God knows that you admire that cold piece of steel death when you hold it.
And the gun you hold was only made for one thing , killing your fellow man that you are suppose to love.
Don't you have faith that the Lord will protect you.
If you have real faith you are not afraid of death , for didn't the Lord promise you a better place ?
As for repentance , a man can do that tell he is blue in the face .
Because if in his heart he has not changed the repentances is just a lie to himself and to the Lord. The Lord doesn't like that !
A man can not hide what is in his heart from the Lord.
Oh Lord I repent and I shall preach your name and quote your words , But I am going to do it with a gun in my hand because I don't have enough faith in you to keep me and my family safe. AMEN !

Dude your not 100% sure , Whats that about Thomas ?

Disciples don't shoot bad guys they pray for them.
And by your posts and threads you are being a disciple are you not ?
 
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2ndAmendment

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Gumbo, You and I will have to disagree on this. God has raised up armies to strike nations. Whether I use a weapon only for target practice or ever use it to kill is something that history has not decided.
 
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2ndAmendment

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gumbo said:
Other than you and I that list is easy, Jesus let it be know that they have the same chance of getting into heaven as it would be to put a camel through the eye of a needle , So that only leaves one other place.
But you missed the other part of Jesus statement that all things are possible through God. True, you cannot serve both God and money. But God did not say you could not be successful as long as you put Him first.
And how did they get their money ? Last I recall Jesus nor his disciples excepted anything but food and shelter.
They don't live in a modest house or drive a modest car and they encourage people to give more while they get rich. Do churches really need to be built on prime real estate? Money Money Money and we know what the bible says about Greed. No man can serve God and Money ?
I wonder how many of them have enough faith to really believe that God shall provide and give up all their personal money.
And you? Are you ready to give all of your possessions up? I don't think you have to. I do believe you must put God before your possessions.
Those who teach will be judged the harshest.
Those that teach falsely will be judged the harshest.

The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment. 1 Co 2;15
I am spiritual so I am allowed ! As for the second part of this , their real faith is at question, is it love of money or love of God, can't serve both ,so I am still allowed.
Being indwelt and empowered by the Holy Spirit allows me to be discerning, too.
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
2ndAmendment said:
Ah. I see that you have taken on the God's job of deciding who and who is not going to hell by name.

Yes, I still have my weapons. Please quote any passage from the Bible that states that weapons are wrong to have. And the commandment is "Thou shall not murder.", not "Thou shall not kill." which have two entirely different connotations. Ever read the account of David and Goliath, the Philistine giant (1 Samuel 17)?

Your statement above is the same statement I made towards homosexuality. To "lay" with could be translated in different ways, not just to have sexual relations with. I rest my case.
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
2ndAmendment said:
Ah. I see that you have taken on the God's job of deciding who and who is not going to hell by name.
And you don't think you've done this with some of your posts on here? :confused:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
crabcake said:
And you don't think you've done this with some of your posts on here? :confused:
I don't think so. I don't think you will find where I posted by name that anyone was hell bound. I make no bones about it that sinners that do not have Jesus as Savior and Lord and those that are unrepentant are, according to the Bible, not me, hell bound.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Chasey_Lane said:
Your statement above is the same statement I made towards homosexuality. To "lay" with could be translated in different ways, not just to have sexual relations with. I rest my case.
Taken in context, the Hebrew-Aramaic meaning is clear.
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
2ndAmendment said:
I don't think so. I don't think you will find where I posted by name that anyone was hell bound. I make no bones about it that sinners that do not have Jesus as Savior and Lord and those that are unrepentant are, according to the Bible, not me, hell bound.
Literally saying someone was "hell-bound", perhaps not. But some of your comments relating to religion could certainly be perceived as you 'playing God'.
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
crabcake said:
Literally saying someone was "hell-bound", perhaps not. But some of your comments relating to religion could certainly be perceived as you 'playing God'.
I'll take my hell-bound, self-ritcheous self over some hypocritical, bible-thumper ANY day! :yay:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
crabcake said:
Literally saying someone was "hell-bound", perhaps not. But some of your comments relating to religion could certainly be perceived as you 'playing God'.
I do not presume to play God. The Bible is the Truth. That is what I base my life and my posts on.
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
The Gospel of Thomas.

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Jesus said to them: If you fast, you will put a sin to your charge; and if you pray, you will be condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your inner spirits. And if you go into any land and walk about in the regions, if they receive you, eat what is set before you; heal the sick among them. For what goes into your mouth will not defile you; but what comes out of your mouth, that is what will defile you.
 
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