False Prophets

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
pixiegirl said:
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Jesus said to them: If you fast, you will put a sin to your charge; and if you pray, you will be condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your inner spirits. And if you go into any land and walk about in the regions, if they receive you, eat what is set before you; heal the sick among them. For what goes into your mouth will not defile you; but what comes out of your mouth, that is what will defile you.
Good post, Pix. :clap:
 

crabcake

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2ndAmendment said:
The Bible is the Truth. That is what I base my life and my posts on.
Some sort of disclaimer in your siggy stating that might be more helpful.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
pixiegirl said:
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Jesus said to them: If you fast, you will put a sin to your charge; and if you pray, you will be condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your inner spirits. And if you go into any land and walk about in the regions, if they receive you, eat what is set before you; heal the sick among them. For what goes into your mouth will not defile you; but what comes out of your mouth, that is what will defile you.
The Gospel of Thomas is not part of the Bible. You won't find the first part in the Bible, but you will find passages that agree with "And if you go into any land and walk about in the regions, if they receive you, eat what is set before you; heal the sick among them. For what goes into your mouth will not defile you; but what comes out of your mouth, that is what will defile you."
 

2ndAmendment

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Chasey_Lane said:
The almight himself knows, and since he speaks directly to you, why don't you ask him yourself. :yay:
He speaks to all through the Bible. He speaks to anyone who makes their way right with Him and takes the time to listen; be still before the Lord.
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
2ndAmendment said:
The Gospel of Thomas is not part of the Bible. You won't find the first part in the Bible, but you will find passages that agree with "And if you go into any land and walk about in the regions, if they receive you, eat what is set before you; heal the sick among them. For what goes into your mouth will not defile you; but what comes out of your mouth, that is what will defile you."


I know it's not part of the Bible. What I don't understand is why we have to give so much authority to ONLY the Bible. The Bible was compiled by man was it not?
 

crabcake

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pixiegirl said:
I know it's not part of the Bible. What I don't understand is why we have to give so much authority to ONLY the Bible. The Bible was compiled by man was it not?
:duh: Dur, because he said so!
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
pixiegirl said:
I know it's not part of the Bible. What I don't understand is why we have to give so much authority to ONLY the Bible. The Bible was compiled by man was it not?
Well, from my understanding, the "bible" used to comprise many texts and documents. However, in the early days of the catholic church, the pope (whose name I can't remember) sent out orders that ALL the churchs had to send in all the text that they were using to spread the "Word". Then when all the documents and texts were compiled, this one man sat down with a couple of buddies and picked and choosed what they wanted in the "Bible" and then they burned the remaining documents. Thereby a single man choose the tone and direction of the "bible" which orginially comprised much much more. Luckily, for those who are interested in learning more than just what one man wanted, a lot of the texts survived, albeit some where hidden amongst the dead sea scrolls.
 

2ndAmendment

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pixiegirl said:
I know it's not part of the Bible. What I don't understand is why we have to give so much authority to ONLY the Bible. The Bible was compiled by man was it not?
I believe the Bible is the Truth of God. All other books are human wisdom.

You and I have had this discussion many times. You don't believe the Bible and I do. We both have free will. Time will tell who is right and who is wrong. To have this discussion again is pointless; the facts have not changed.
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
migtig said:
Well, from my understanding, the "bible" used to comprise many texts and documents. However, in the early days of the catholic church, the pope (whose name I can't remember) sent out orders that ALL the churchs had to send in all the text that they were using to spread the "Word". Then when all the documents and texts were compiled, this one man sat down with a couple of buddies and picked and choosed what they wanted in the "Bible" and then they burned the remaining documents. Thereby a single man choose the tone and direction of the "bible" which orginially comprised much much more. Luckily, for those who are interested in learning more than just what one man wanted, a lot of the texts survived, albeit some where hidden amongst the dead sea scrolls.
Pope Damsus I was the guy who decided to make the bible what it is.
 

2ndAmendment

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migtig said:
Well, from my understanding, the "bible" used to comprise many texts and documents. However, in the early days of the catholic church, the pope (whose name I can't remember) sent out orders that ALL the churchs had to send in all the text that they were using to spread the "Word". Then when all the documents and texts were compiled, this one man sat down with a couple of buddies and picked and choosed what they wanted in the "Bible" and then they burned the remaining documents. Thereby a single man choose the tone and direction of the "bible" which orginially comprised much much more. Luckily, for those who are interested in learning more than just what one man wanted, a lot of the texts survived, albeit some where hidden amongst the dead sea scrolls.
Where you got that, I have no idea.
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
2ndAmendment said:
Where you got that, I have no idea.
From the facts - from history. It's well documented. Research it and you will discover I am telling the truth.
 

2ndAmendment

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migtig said:
Pope Damsus I was the guy who decided to make the bible what it is.
The Catholic Bible is not the canonical Bible. the Catholic Bible contains the Apocrypha; the canonical Bible does not.
 
We all agree on one thing, that everyone has their own perspective on religion and how it fits them personally. Why must this bickering and wordplay continue? What will make it stop... an exploding head? Because I really don't believe that will happen. People agree to disagree on many other subjects, religion should be no different.
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
2ndAmendment said:
I believe the Bible is the Truth of God. All other books are human wisdom.

You and I have had this discussion many times. You don't believe the Bible and I do. We both have free will. Time will tell who is right and who is wrong. To have this discussion again is pointless; the facts have not changed.

My question has never been answered though. Historically, where did the bible come from? Who compiled it? Who chose what was to be included and what was to be left out.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
2ndAmendment said:
I believe the Bible is the Truth of God. All other books are human wisdom.

You and I have had this discussion many times. You don't believe the Bible and I do. We both have free will. Time will tell who is right and who is wrong. To have this discussion again is pointless; the facts have not changed.

Pix, he obviously can't answer that question without having a conflict with his first sentence here. We all (including the most devote christains) know that the bible was compiled by men, some just can't reconcile that with their blind faith......
Humans are not infallable, so if a human wrote(or compiled) the bible it may not be infallable either
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
2ndAmendment said:
The Catholic Bible is not the canonical Bible. the Catholic Bible contains the Apocrypha; the canonical Bible does not.
The Bible. Not the Catholic Bible. The BIBLE end of story - was compiled at one man's direction. The King James version, was edited even further down. Remember, the Catholic Church is the church upon which Peter built.

A lot of text is missing in the bible - no matter what version you use - from what the original churches throughout the lands were teaching back in the day. I am sorry you don't believe me, however, it's factual historical truth.
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
pixiegirl said:
My question has never been answered though. Historically, where did the bible come from? Who compiled it? Who chose what was to be included and what was to be left out.
I answered it - Pope Damsus I
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Midnightrider said:
Pix, he obviously can't answer that question without having a conflict with his first sentence here. We all (including the most devote christains) know that the bible was compiled by men, some just can't reconcile that with their blind faith......
Humans are not infallable, so if a human wrote(or compiled) the bible it may not be infallable either
I answered it in detail before. Just do a search.

The short answer, yes, the Bible was written by men inspired by God. The long answere is much deeper than that. You want to read it. Do the search.
 
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