Females with no female friends

[BadGirl]

Maybe it's because we don't want to be approached by some creeptastic guy circling about like a buzzard to road kill. Men have a tendency to think that if a woman is alone they want some man to come talk to them.

I prefer to travel in packs for this very reason.

I'll be your Wing-Gal.

 

[Dye Tied]

Not rude. It's a bonafide addiction.

Soooooo shiny!

Time for you to find a bonafide counselor Your skin is going to grow around your phone.

 

[Pete]

Time for you to find a bonafide counselor Your skin is going to grow around your phone.

Maybe a "methafone" clinic?

 

[Dye Tied]

Maybe a "methafone" clinic?

threadkiller

 

[vraiblonde]

Maybe it's because we don't want to be approached by some creeptastic guy circling about like a buzzard to road kill. Men have a tendency to think that if a woman is alone they want some man to come talk to them.

I prefer to travel in packs for this very reason.

Unfortunately that's true. I enjoy taking myself out to dinner or lunch, but for some reason guys do approach a lone woman, which is just weird. If I were going to pick up some guy, I can assure you it wouldn't be at the Ruby Tuesday salad bar.

 

[ItalianScallion]

Perhaps you should explore further the wonder of their resorting to texting in response to your remarks.

This has nothing to do with my remarks. I watch people as they come into a restaurant and almost every woman (and most young guys) will do it within 2 minutes of sitting down or even while they're walking to their seat.
I'm surely not trying to pick them up.

I never thought I would agree with you, Nonno, but I think you nailed that one. When a girl or woman pulls out a phone and starts texting while you are talking to her, it is because she is trying to blow you off or otherwise politely tell you she is not interested in you. (I know it is hard to believe that an Itallion Stallion of a Harley rider that "smiles and makes eye contact" would get turned down, but it does happen from time to time.)

Please don't start any bad habits here Libertarian...like agreeing with Nonno..
Again I'll say, that I'm not trying to pick them up and the conversation is very cordial. Phone use is a freakin' addiction. I've seen many women come into a restaurant alone, waiting for their friends, co-workers or their dates and, because they are afraid or embarrassed to be sitting alone, within 30 seconds they're texting or on the phone. I've seen it a zillion times.

Having seen soo many of the women down here, I can assure you that, in most cases, I'm not trying to pick them up. I'm just sitting at the bar (usually CIP, Gilligans or Red Robin) and they'll sit down near me and sometimes they'll say hello. I continue it and after a few moments there's a pause or I'll be talking to the bar tender and look over at her and she's texting away. I've made no advances in her direction nor have I said anything suggestive to her. She sat near me, I didn't sit near her.

Not rude. It's a bonafide addiction.

We have a winner!

Maybe it's because we don't want to be approached by some creeptastic guy circling about like a buzzard to road kill. Men have a tendency to think that if a woman is alone they want some man to come talk to them.
I prefer to travel in packs for this very reason.

Even though I'm not one of those guys I fully understand this, so I never approach a solitary woman unless we've made friendly eye contact. I know someone else is coming to join her, for sure. Women rarely come out alone.

Trust me; I know the game. I'm not a "creeptastic guy circling about like a buzzard to road kill"...but I know the type and they ARE creepy.

 

[Bann]

Not rude. It's a bonafide addiction.

Soooooo shiny!

 

[SamSpade]

Unfortunately that's true. I enjoy taking myself out to dinner or lunch, but for some reason guys do approach a lone woman, which is just weird. If I were going to pick up some guy, I can assure you it wouldn't be at the Ruby Tuesday salad bar.

"Creeptastic" guys will approach you in the parking lot, at the MVA, while you're walking the dog, while you're doing your job, when you're folding your laundry. That's just them. I generally presume if women go out in groups, they really aren't interested in meeting anyone coming by. A group of girlfriends is a great big "go away" sign. The lack of a go away sign might not be an invitation, but if it's not saying go away, a lot of men will take the chance.

As far as Ruby's is concerned, it IS where I met my wife, although not entirely under those kinds of circumstances. But most couples I know initially met their significant other in every day run of the mill incidents, such as dropping the mail at the Post Office. Life is like that.

 

[RoseRed]

"Creeptastic" guys will approach you in the parking lot, at the MVA, while you're walking the dog, while you're doing your job, when you're folding your laundry. That's just them. I generally presume if women go out in groups, they really aren't interested in meeting anyone coming by. A group of girlfriends is a great big "go away" sign. The lack of a go away sign might not be an invitation, but if it's not saying go away, a lot of men will take the chance.

As far as Ruby's is concerned, it IS where I met my wife, although not entirely under those kinds of circumstances. But most couples I know initially met their significant other in every day run of the mill incidents, such as dropping the mail at the Post Office. Life is like that.

I go out with both friends and alone at times. Just because I am alone, it doesn't mean I am trying to get picked up by some random guy. Usually, it is quite the contrary.

 

[Nonno]

Having seen soo many of the women down here, I can assure you that, in most cases, I'm not trying to pick them up.

With this explanation I can better understand your frustration with the local scene. Perhaps you should venture further afield.

 

[ItalianScallion]

I go out with both friends and alone at times. Just because I am alone, it doesn't mean I am trying to get picked up by some random guy. Usually, it is quite the contrary.

I agree but, as I said earlier, it's starts with either the conversation (if we're sitting close), or the eye contact.
I've seen women make eye contact with me and then smile. I might or might not approach them, depending on their ring finger and their looks (I'm old fashioned; I do honor the ring).
Others will look and then look away, so I'd guess they're not interested.
Others have come right up to me and started a conversation.
And others might talk for a few minutes but then leave or say something that tells me that they're not interested/available.
It's sad but there is a certain game that has to be played...and I hate it! People should be up front and just say if they're interested or not. It's not pleasant to reject or be rejected, but it sure beats the alternative (avoiding the phone calls).

With this explanation I can better understand your frustration with the local scene. Perhaps you should venture further afield.

"Afield", is that in southern Maryland?

 

[Bann]

"Creeptastic" guys will approach you in the parking lot, at the MVA, while you're walking the dog, while you're doing your job, when you're folding your laundry. That's just them. I generally presume if women go out in groups, they really aren't interested in meeting anyone coming by. A group of girlfriends is a great big "go away" sign. The lack of a go away sign might not be an invitation, but if it's not saying go away, a lot of men will take the chance.

As far as Ruby's is concerned, it IS where I met my wife, although not entirely under those kinds of circumstances. But most couples I know initially met their significant other in every day run of the mill incidents, such as dropping the mail at the Post Office. Life is like that.

Why do you assume if women go out in groups, they're not interested in meeting anyone coming by? I guess it would depend on the venue, but why would anyone not be interested in talking with someone else interesting? Of course if the guy is a player and insinuates himself into the group in a rude type of way, that's one thing. But people's eyes do meet & they do find interest that way, sometimes. I guess I'm thinking that just because a woman is out with girl friends doesn't necessarily mean they're totally unapproachable.

 

[Bann]

I agree but, as I said earlier, it's starts with either the conversation (if we're sitting close), or the eye contact.
I've seen women make eye contact with me and then smile. I might or might not approach them, depending on their ring finger and their looks (I'm old fashioned; I do honor the ring).
Others will look and then look away, so I'd guess they're not interested.
Others have come right up to me and started a conversation.
And others might talk for a few minutes but then leave or say something that tells me that they're not interested/available.
It's sad but there is a certain game that has to be played...and I hate it! People should be up front and just say if they're interested or not. It's not pleasant to reject or be rejected, but it sure beats the alternative (avoiding the phone calls).

"Afield", is that in southern Maryland?

How long of a time period are you talking? 5 minutes after walking into a restaurant? People are there to eat, so whether they are alone or in a small group or large group, they might in a totally different mindset.

Anyway, I would say that looking away in disgust or disinterest is immediately recognizable, if one is willing to pick up facial cues. But sometimes, looking away is just looking away. Maybe they don't want their real emotions to be seen right away. Maybe they're really shy until they get to know a person?

 

[RoseRed]

Why do you assume if women go out in groups, they're not interested in meeting anyone coming by? I guess it would depend on the venue, but why would anyone not be interested in talking with someone else interesting? Of course if the guy is a player and insinuates himself into the group in a rude type of way, that's one thing. But people's eyes do meet & they do find interest that way, sometimes. I guess I'm thinking that just because a woman is out with girl friends doesn't necessarily mean they're totally unapproachable.

It isn't news that I AM the unapproachable beyotch!

 

[toppick08]

It isn't news that I AM the unapproachable beyotch!

You shook my hand.....and I always remember acts of kindness like that.

 

[SamSpade]

Why do you assume if women go out in groups, they're not interested in meeting anyone coming by?

I don't know, possibly for the same reason if a dude sits in a corner surrounded by his silent menacing goons, I'm guessing he's not interested in idle chat. I could be wrong.

You just have to make the best use of your time and common sense. I assume if people are in a bar and they have papers spread out and are talking business - they don't want anyone coming by to "meet" them. If they're playing pool for money, my guess is, they're not interested in talking to anyone. And you won't make a good impression on someone if you have to completely interrupt their conversation just to say hi.

Since I'm not single, it's not terribly relevant. But when I was, given the *choice* between someone who seems available and someone with a human "fence" around them, I'd probably more likely make idle chat with the one NOT hanging around her friends.

 

[ItalianScallion]

How long of a time period are you talking? 5 minutes after walking into a restaurant? People are there to eat, so whether they are alone or in a small group or large group, they might in a totally different mindset.
Anyway, I would say that looking away in disgust or disinterest is immediately recognizable, if one is willing to pick up facial cues. But sometimes, looking away is just looking away. Maybe they don't want their real emotions to be seen right away. Maybe they're really shy until they get to know a person?

I went there to eat too but I'm always open for a chance meeting...
Last week I saw a young babe sitting alone at a table for almost 30 minutes. She looked very nervous but I wasn't interested in her, I was just watching. She was calling and texting her fingers off during that time though.

Today I had lunch at CIP and a nice looking Asian lady (near the rest rooms) was looking at me and she even smiled once (yes at me; I was the only one at the bar at the time). After about 20 minutes, I went to the mens room but she didn't see me. (What I did see was that big rock on her ring finger). When I came out she was gone, so I look at it as just a friendly smile and nothing more.

Again, I do know the game and you are correct. Maybe they are shy or something, so that's why I give it time.
Almost everyone working there knows me and I usually sit at the bar and have a pretty good view of many of the tables. It was definitely a "female with female friends" day today. There were about 8 of us guys at the bar but most of the tables were women and their friends or co-workers.