forced acceptance of homosexuality.

bcp

In My Opinion
no, that's not what she said at all.

she said that anyone offering said service should be obliged to actually provide the service.

i.e. I'm set up a lemonade stand to the public. Therefore I am obliged to sell lemonade to the public (not just whites, not just asians, not just lesbians, but to the public). I am not, however, required to sell grape juice, as that doesn't fall under my product catagory.
you have a serious failure to understand.
whites and asians and blacks etc.. are all ethnic groups.
homosexuals are not
there could be a white homosexual, or a black homosexual or an asian homosexual, but the refusal to do business with them would be based on their lifestyle choice, the homosexual part and not their born with ethnic background.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
How? If you do not like the job you were hired to do quit and get a new job. How is that forcing a pediatrician to perform abortions for example? Or a podiatrist to be involved in state executions?
well, what if the person that owns the business has a rule not to cater to homosexuals, and by your working there you are agreeing to abide by his rules.
wouldnt your theory then work in the opposite way?
 

Vince

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found it



I was just curious really.
And you were too stupid again to read further for if you did read further in the thread you would have seen that the statement was meant as a joke and that I am Catholic which should tell you the rest of the story. But your ignorance shows again. :shrug:
 

Xaquin44

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And you were too stupid again to read further for if you did read further in the thread you would have seen that the statement was meant as a joke and that I am Catholic which should tell you the rest of the story. But your ignorance shows again. :shrug:

so you're really only pro individual rights if they're the rights you want?

I see.

ah, I also see petty insults. Just as jesus would have wanted, I'm sure.
 
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czygvtwkr

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A 13 year old girl goes to an OBGYN and demands to be artificially inseminated, the doctor refuses due to her age........
 

Vince

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so you're really only pro individual rights if they're the rights you want?

I see.

ah, I also see petty insults. Just as jesus would have wanted, I'm sure.
Are you so insulted because you're gay? Is this what you're about? You made this about "gay" rights and gay marriage. I did not. This was about the state of California instilling more rights to one group and taking rights from another. You first made it about racial discrimination then gay rights. What happened to just plain rights of one group over another or can't your brain handle the simplicity?
 
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czygvtwkr

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A neonazi couple that can't have kids naturally goes to a OBGYN and wants artifically inseminated, the doctor happens to be gay, the couple say they want to have kids to help rid the world of fags, the doctor refers them to another doctor.......
 

puggymom

Active Member
no, that's not what she said at all.

she said that anyone offering said service should be obliged to actually provide the service.

i.e. I'm set up a lemonade stand to the public. Therefore I am obliged to sell lemonade to the public (not just whites, not just asians, not just lesbians, but to the public). I am not, however, required to sell grape juice, as that doesn't fall under my product catagory.

EXACTLY!! Thank you.
 

puggymom

Active Member
well, what if the person that owns the business has a rule not to cater to homosexuals, and by your working there you are agreeing to abide by his rules.
wouldnt your theory then work in the opposite way?

Actually I guess it would. If you apply for a job you have a job description. If you accept the job based on the description then you HAVE to perform that job or quit.
 

Xaquin44

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Are you so insulted because you're gay? Is this what you're about? You made this about "gay" rights and gay marriage. I did not. This was about the state of California instilling more rights to one group and taking rights from another. You first made it about racial discrimination then gay rights. What happened to just plain rights of one group over another or can't your brain handle the simplicity?

It was about discrimination to begin with ....

I didn't make it about gay rights, that was part of the subject .... (edit: part of the subject in that she had a right to obtain the service advertised and was refused because she was gay)

and no, I'm not gay (sorry).

and please, keep up the insults Mr. Catholic, I'm sure they're a one way ticket to heaven.

I brought up gay marriage simply to see whether you really cared about individual rights as a whole, or just when the rights were what you wanted.

Apparently when you said "This is about a state making laws to bascially take away one groups freedoms and give the power to another. IT'S NOT RIGHT", you should have added 'unless they're gay, in which case: tough'.
 
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bcp

In My Opinion
I've partied at the Hershy Bar with Hash House Harriers a few years back.
the lesbo bar in Norfolk?
we tried to get in, this stocky little woman bouncer told us it was ladies night, I said we could come back tomorrow, she said, tomorrow is ladies night, went on for each night of the week.
so then I asked, Is this a dyke bar?

she chased us across the parking lot. I almost wet myself while I was running because I was laughing so damn hard.
 

Xaquin44

New Member
A neonazi couple that can't have kids naturally goes to a OBGYN and wants artifically inseminated, the doctor happens to be gay, the couple say they want to have kids to help rid the world of fags, the doctor refers them to another doctor.......

This is the same situation as the OP (well, not the exact same, but you know .... )
 

bcp

In My Opinion
A neonazi couple that can't have kids naturally goes to a OBGYN and wants artifically inseminated, the doctor happens to be gay, the couple say they want to have kids to help rid the world of fags, the doctor refers them to another doctor.......
this gives any doctor the ammo to deny service.
but, without that, if that doctor said he only turkey basted lesbos, and referred the couple to a doctor that did heteros, they should just move on to the next doctor.
 

Vince

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It was about discrimination to begin with ....

I didn't make it about gay rights, that was part of the subject .... (edit: part of the subject in that she had a right to obtain the service advertised and was refused because she was gay)

and no, I'm not gay (sorry).

and please, keep up the insults Mr. Catholic, I'm sure they're a one way ticket to heaven.

I brought up gay marriage simply to see whether you really cared about individual rights as a whole, or just when the rights were what you wanted.

Apparently when you said "This is about a state making laws to bascially take away one groups freedoms and give the power to another. IT'S NOT RIGHT", you should have added 'unless they're gay, in which case: tough'.
So your discriminating against Catholic's now. From your remark it sounds like you don't like Catholics very much. You could have called me alot of things, but instead choose "Mr. Catholic." See, same difference with you and the gay thing. Just because I'm Catholic doesn't mean I hate gays. I just don't agree with their choice, but you automatically turn it into hate/racial discrimination/gay rights/ gay marriage. All of which you mentioned in this thread. Still has nothing to do with the state of California and the legal decision of the Supreme Court. I will not comment further. You are a waste of my time.
 

Xaquin44

New Member
So your discriminating against Catholic's now. From your remark it sounds like you don't like Catholics very much. You could have called me alot of things, but instead choose "Mr. Catholic." See, same difference with you and the gay thing. Just because I'm Catholic doesn't mean I hate gays. I just don't agree with their choice, but you automatically turn it into hate/racial discrimination/gay rights/ gay marriage. All of which you mentioned in this thread. Still has nothing to do with the state of California and the legal decision of the Supreme Court. I will not comment further. You are a waste of my time.

ahahha

I called you 'Mr Catholic' because you said you were catholic. Hardly discrimination ....

I don't really know too many, so I'd hardly want to be prejudiced against them.

I never said you hate gays either, I just pointed out that you were only in favor of individual rights if they were the rights you wanted them to have.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
ahahha

I called you 'Mr Catholic' because you said you were catholic. Hardly discrimination ....

I don't really know too many, so I'd hardly want to be prejudiced against them.

I never said you hate gays either, I just pointed out that you were only in favor of individual rights if they were the rights you wanted them to have.
isnt that the same thing you are saying? give business the right to exist, but only as long as they follow a business plan that you agree with?
 
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