Gays Mock Jesus with Last Supper Take-Off

[Lenny]

That is despicable. For the city officials who allow this to happen is lower than the scum breeding in the sewage pool. I won't be surprise if San Francisco end up being the next Sodom or Gommorah.

From your friends who continue to elect Nancy Pelosi to Congress.

 

[Thor]

What statement is it making?

I mean, we're not talking Goya here - if there is a statement, it should be fairly easy to pick out, right? So pick it out for me. What is this artwork trying to convey?

As I already said I see it as a statement regarding the intolerance of religion. Your mileage may vary.

 

[Novus Collectus]

No, I am definitely calling for people to restrict themselves.

Themselves.

Get it?

I am not forcing them to restrict themselves, nor am I trying to make legislation that restricts them.

I am calling for *them* to show respect and restrict *themselves*.

Shall I spell it out even further?

No, that is pretty straight forward.
Thank you for the clarification.

 

[Novus Collectus]

What statement is it making?

I mean, we're not talking Goya here - if there is a statement, it should be fairly easy to pick out, right? So pick it out for me. What is this artwork trying to convey?

Who knows, maybe they are trying to say celibrating with enjoyment like sex is like the Agape Festival showing homage to Jesus.

 

[Novus Collectus]

But you realize this hurts the mainstream gay movement, right?

Ok, so a minority group (mainstream gays) that has progressed by being accepted by mainstream society is hurt by this, but the minority group among the minority group should keep shut up and in the closet and that is ok.
There should be universal equality.

 

[residentofcre]

I personally would not be wanting to stand to close to any of the people who did this.

Historically, God doesn't take kindly to being mocked. Jesus being mocked is going to shorten a lot of lives... I am so happy there is forgiveness... I hope they find it soon...

I'm glad to be fearful... I'm happy that I don't have to worry about any of this... I feel sorry for them and their families... it's heartbreaking in my opinion....

 

[vraiblonde]

Who knows, maybe they are trying to say celibrating with enjoyment like sex is like the Agape Festival showing homage to Jesus.

Yeah, Jesus must be particularly flattered by that huge rubber fist.

 

[vraiblonde]

but the minority group among the minority group should keep shut up and in the closet and that is ok.

The fact is that if you want to get respect, you must give respect. And since this group has gone out of their way to offend and provoke, I do not feel they deserve any consideration whatsoever.

 

[Purplefox]

Yeah, Jesus must be particularly flattered by that huge rubber fist.

OMG!! That made me choke (no pun intended) with laughter. If I new how to put that as part of my signature....I would.

Go on Vrai!

 

[Roughidle]

Well...you only have to put up with that which you allow to be put. San Fran gets what it got, cuz it got what it gets. Yogi Berra would say the same if he said what I'm sayin'.

 

[Novus Collectus]

Yeah, Jesus must be particularly flattered by that huge rubber fist.

Who knows, maybe they actually believe so.

 

[Purplefox]

Well...you only have to put up with that which you allow to be put. San Fran gets what it got, cuz it got what it gets. Yogi Berra would say the same if he said what I'm sayin'.

And I say....the pres of Iran....."Imadeadjihadi" should run for mayor of San Fran.....just sayin'

 

[Novus Collectus]

The fact is that if you want to get respect, you must give respect. And since this group has gone out of their way to offend and provoke, I do not feel they deserve any consideration whatsoever.

Remember the "we're here, we're queer; get used to it" chant at gay rights protests and marches? Plenty of people thought that provocative. Do you feel those gay rights protestors didn't deserve any consideration whatsoever?

 

[Roughidle]

Man...them gays...they're so anal.

 

[kris31280]

But you realize this hurts the mainstream gay movement, right?

The leather community is not now nor should it be implied that it is part of the gay mainstream.

 

[Thor]

The fact is that if you want to get respect, you must give respect.

Like the respect non believers get in this country? Like when Bush senior said atheists should not be citizens nor are they patriots? Like when Pat Robertson (who by the way preaches to over three million people) says "The Constitution of the United States, for instance, is a marvelous document for self-government by the Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian people and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society. And that's what's been happening."

Here's another Pat quote which shoud be particularly offensive to the ladies out there, "I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."

All religion is intolerant, ALL of them, and group selection theory states that group selection will bread intolerance (which it clearly does).

I acknowledge that you say you are not a religious person (and I believe you) however it seems to me that respect, when referring to a religious belief system, is really code word for "if you don't believe then shut the hell up".

Face it, religions (and I am not attacking a single religion here, the plural was intentional) bread intolerance, every religious book with the possible exceptions of the Hindu vedas, is based on group continuity, and most if not all have killed, shunned, or excluded people who refuse to conform to the belief system. It happens to this day.

To assert that it does not happen in this country is, quite frankly, delusional. I am not going to get into a “you started this first” argument, but I will say that respect is a two way street and the “group think” surrounding religion has been around as long as religion itself.

Telling someone homosexuality is wrong based on a biological standpoint (you can’t make babies that way) is one thing. Telling someone homosexuality is wrong because god told me so; which is arguably also a biological statement ( you can’t make “Christian” babies that way) is a completely different animal.

Please don’t think I am attacking you personally, I am not. I am simply trying to make a point.

Oh, and to the little #### that called me gay earlier (and I expect he did because it appears I am defending homosexuals) to him I say. Sir you do not know me, and if you did you would know I am not a homosexual. In fact, they don’t come much more conservative then I. The difference is my morals come from personal conviction and I am allowed to adjust them based on current evidence whereas you, apparently, are not. As yours are constrained by your “set in stone” belief system.

 

[MMDad]

The leather community is not now nor should it be implied that it is part of the gay mainstream.

You may know that, but because they are so loud that they are the face of homosexuals to the rest of America. If your only exposure to homosexuals was seeing this type of "art" couldn't you see it affecting your perception of gays as a whole? That is the problem here.

 

[Thor]

If your only exposure to homosexuals was seeing this type of "art" couldn't you see it affecting your perception of gays as a whole? That is the problem here.

If your only exposer to religion was seeing the indoctrination of children couldn't you see it affecting your perception of religion as a whole? That is the problem here.

 

[MMDad]

If your only exposer to religion was seeing the indoctrination of children couldn't you see it affecting your perception of religion as a whole? That is the problem here.

What does that have to do with the topic of this thread? I don't understand what point you are attempting to make here.

 

[Thor]

What does that have to do with the topic of this thread? I don't understand what point you are attempting to make here.

I am trying to raise your consciousness.

See the other side. This issue is a religions one, regardless of the folks who say they object simply because they see them as trying to piss people off.

As I said earlier if the gay men had been put in a setting mimicking the painting of "dogs playing poker" everyone would have laughed. But because they were put in a setting mimicking the last supper everyone is raising hell.

The fact is they are mimicking a painting, is the painting holy? No, but people associate it with holiness which, regardless of what people say, is what upsets them.

Perhaps they are not religious that does not matter, clearly we, as a society, have been trained to take offense at anything which pokes fun at ANY belief system.

Open your mind and see that the root of this is religion. If it were not it would not have be plastered all over every fundamentalist website I can find today.