Ghost, psychics, and horoscopes

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Again, I never cease to be amazed at God's timing. Someone PMed me about this very subject. I told them the same thing.

Posted with permission.
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***Psychics and talking to the dead. Unfortunately this is an issue many struggle with in varying degrees. It is NOT to be laughed off, since this is one of the subtle ways the enemy can get into our life. This is VERY serious and deserves your attention. John Edward is one of the most visible people who proclaim to "talk to the dead". Let me go on record as saying Mr. Edward is an out and out fraud who does what he does for personal gain. HE CAN NOT COMMUNICATE WITH THE DEAD!!!

His TV program "Crossing Over" is an abomination to God! Sadly, there are many people that have no foundation in the Word of God, are hurting, and looking for answers. These are the people John Edward and other "psychics" prey upon. Miss Cleo was the latest "TV Psychic" to be exposed as a fraud and go out of business. Ever wonder what happened to the Psychic Friends Network? They went bankrupt after pocketing millions of dollars and not paying their bills.. It came to light that the "psychic" people spoke to were actually minimum wage telemarketers reading a script designed to make the caller stay on the line as long as possible to run up their phone bill. That is the same scam Miss Cleo was running. JOHN EDWARD IS NO DIFFERENT. HE IS A FRAUD!!!! My friend, RUN from this stuff. It is rooted in the pits of hell itself!!!

***FOR THOSE WHO WILL TRY TO DEFEND EDWARD, SYLVIA BROWN, AND THE OTHER FRAUDS WHO DO THIS, LET ME WARN YOU THAT YOU ARE DOING SO IN 100% OPPOSITION TO WHAT GOD SAYS. IT IS GOD, NOT ME THAT CALLS THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY AN ABOMINATION. SO PRAY, AND DECIDE WHOSE SIDE YOU ARE ON...GOD'S OR THOSE WHO GOD CONDEMNS.


Reading your horoscope. Many people start the day by turning to their newspaper and reading their horoscope. Harmless fun? Actually, as harmless as it may seem, those horoscope predictions are rooted in satanism and straight from the very pits of hell itself. I have always been amazed how so many Christians routinely play around with their horoscope, without ever realizing how wrong it really is. Now you may be thinking that I am way off base on this issue, but trust me, what I will share is not my opinion, but straight from the Word of God itself.

God created the heavens and the stars, and like everything God creates, satan has perverted it and used it incorrectly. The horoscope is an abomination because it is used to see into the future. Let me tell you right now...NO ONE BUT GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE! The horoscope is based on witchcraft, sorcery, and is an absolute satanic device. Will you go to hell for reading your horoscope? Of course not. But why would you want to be involved in something that God clearly tells us to stay away from?

I already know that I will be getting many emails from people telling me that I am making too much of this issue. People that will tell me that there are more important things to worry about. But the reason I am dealing with this subject today is to illustrate how blind we often are, and how we can innocently get involved with things that are straight from satan himself without ever realizing it. When you go to the zoo and see the lions, there is always a very large fence or some other protective mechanism making it virtually impossible for you to ever come in contact with them. Why? Obviously because they are very dangerous and could easily kill you if you ever came face to face with them.

There are many things in life that we protect ourselves from once we know they can be dangerous to us. I want to tell you today that playing around with your zodiac sign, reading your horoscope, is no different that jumping the fence at the zoo to go play with the lions. You are opening yourself up to a very dangerous situation which is why God has tried to warn us from this type of thing in His Word.

I really do love you and care about you deeply. I realize that many of you think there is nothing wrong with reading your horoscope. Many use these psychic networks that are so prevalent. Again I tell you, only God knows the future. For the most part, these fortune tellers are just a way to make money off of people's troubles. But the problem is, on top of the monetary cost involved, you are turning to someone other than God for answers. Only God has the answers, but the real sin in turning to horoscopes, psychics, witchcraft, is putting your faith and hope in something other than God Himself.

We read the sad account of King Saul, who near the end of his life in desperation turns from the God of Israel that anointed him king, and turned to a witch. The sin was putting his faith in something or someone other than God for answers and direction. That is the key reason why horoscopes are not something those who follow Christ should be involved with. If you need direction, answers, help in your time of need, turn to God. Put your faith in the Lord.

I will be praying for you today. I understand that many of you are caught up in the horoscopes and psychics and you will be in my prayers. God will give you the strength to turn away form this satanic activity and turn to Him in your time of need. For many who never totally understood the serious nature of this type of activity, now you know so run from it. It is not something to even fool around with. When we need guidance, direction, answers, we need to turn to the only source in the universe that can truly help us, God Almighty, the Creator of the heavens and earth Himself. Turn from satan and his evil inventions. Look to God.

I don't often do this, but I am including many scripture references for you to read to understand how bad this whole horoscope, witchcraft, psychic world really is. Take 15 minutes and read these passages, and let the Holy Spirit bring you under total conviction about how dangerous this activity is. Genesis 44:15, Numbers 22:7, Deut 18:14, I Samuel 6:2, Jer 27:9, Ezekiel 13:23,21:21, Zechariah 10:2, Acts16:16, Genesis 41:24, Exodus 7:11,8:19, 9:11, Deut 18:11, I Samuel 28:11, Isaiah 8:19, 2:6, Daniel 2:27,5:7, Deut 18:10, 2Kings 17:17, 21:6, Isaiah 47:9, Malachi 3:5 Acts 8:11, 13:6 Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 19:31, 20:6, I Samuel 15:23 28:7, 2 Kings 9:22, 23:24, I Chronicles 10:13, Isaiah 8:19, 19:3, 29:4, Galatians 5:20.


In His love and service,
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Bill Keller

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HollowSoul

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ok.....her is my take on the "abomination" so it is called for communicating with the deceased.....
If it is an abomination to contact the deceased.......the i guess you should stop trying to talk to JESUS
He's dead too ya know:confused:
 

AMP

Jersey attitude.
2ndAmendment said:
Again, I never cease to be amazed at God's timing. Someone PMed me about this very subject. I told them the same thing.

Posted with permission.

THe spin of the planets through the constellations in the sky to watchers here on earth is hardly satanism. (Not going into the End of Days here with you.)

ANd I don't think satan is the one I see standing at the bottom of the stairs in my mother's house when I am not really paying attention, or the things that often flit down my hall after 10pm each night, or the vision of my uncle who came to me to say goodbye when I was pregnant and could not go to his funeral.

And for the record, I do NOT routinely check my horoscope, or consult with occult hotlines, or do rain dances, for that matter.

Thank you, 2ndA. You have made me decide once and for all that there is more to the Bible in what has been left out to write a winners history than what meets the eye today.
 
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Spoiled

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You really like to just show how often people sin... Ms Cleo, never claimed to be a real psychic (infact if you look at the bottom of her commercials like most other TV psychics it says for entertainment purposes only which means we arent real)


I remember playing Magic: The Gathering (a card game) before CCD (sunday school) with some friends and the priest went ape sh&t because of how demonic it was... I dont understand what he thought we were doing, its no different than playing the card game war, the cards are just more detailed...
 

AMP

Jersey attitude.
Spoiled said:
You really like to just show how often people sin... I remember playing Magic: The Gathering (a card game) before CCD (sunday school) with some friends and the priest went ape sh&t because of how demonic it was... I dont understand what he thought we were doing, its no different than playing the card game war, the cards are just more detailed...

He probably thought you had a tarot deck, that freaks the Catholics out (or the ones who don't understand it).
 

Spoiled

Active Member
AMP said:
He probably thought you had a tarot deck, that freaks the Catholics out (or the ones who don't understand it).
its just many dont even bother to try and understand... which upsets me...
 

AMP

Jersey attitude.
Spoiled said:
its just many dont even bother to try and understand... which upsets me...

Same here. But if we understood it all our heads would explode. :)

...There is more to heaven and earth, Horatio, than is dreamt of in your philosophy...
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
HollowSoul said:
ok.....her is my take on the "abomination" so it is called for communicating with the deceased.....
If it is an abomination to contact the deceased.......the i guess you should stop trying to talk to JESUS
He's dead too ya know:confused:
No. Jesus is alive.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
AMP said:
THe spin of the planets through the constellations in the sky to watchers here on earth is hardly satanism. (Not going into the End of Days here with you.)

ANd I don't think satan is the one I see standing at the bottom of the stairs in my mother's house when I am not really paying attention, or the things that often flit down my hall after 10pm each night, or the vision of my uncle who came to me to say goodbye when I was pregnant and could not go to his funeral.

And for the record, I do NOT routinely check my horoscope, or consult with occult hotlines, or do rain dances, for that matter.

Thank you, 2ndA. You have made me decide once and for all that there is more to the Bible in what has been left out to write a winners history than what meets the eye today.
Your porblem. Not mine.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Spoiled said:
You really like to just show how often people sin... Ms Cleo, never claimed to be a real psychic (infact if you look at the bottom of her commercials like most other TV psychics it says for entertainment purposes only which means we arent real)


I remember playing Magic: The Gathering (a card game) before CCD (sunday school) with some friends and the priest went ape sh&t because of how demonic it was... I dont understand what he thought we were doing, its no different than playing the card game war, the cards are just more detailed...
People sin all the time. If you are offended by the fact that you are a sinner, do something about it.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Spoiled said:
its just many dont even bother to try and understand... which upsets me...
Did you bother to try to understand by taking the 15 minutes to read the passages referenced?

As for your sig line, it is best in context.
Malachi 2:1-9
1"And now this commandment is for you, O priests.

2"If you do not listen, and if you do not take it to heart to give honor to My name," says the LORD of hosts, "then I will send the curse upon you and I will curse your blessings; and indeed, I have cursed them already, because you are not taking it to heart.

3"Behold, I am going to rebuke your offspring, and I will spread refuse on your faces, the refuse of your feasts; and you will be taken away with it.

4"Then you will know that I have sent this commandment to you, that My covenant may continue with Levi," says the LORD of hosts.

5"My covenant with him was one of life and peace, and I gave them to him as an object of reverence; so he revered Me and stood in awe of My name.

6"True instruction was in his mouth and unrighteousness was not found on his lips; he walked with Me in peace and uprightness, and he turned many back from iniquity.

7"For the lips of a priest should preserve knowledge, and men should seek instruction from his mouth; for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts.

8"But as for you, you have turned aside from the way; you have caused many to stumble by the instruction; you have corrupted the covenant of Levi," says the LORD of hosts.

9"So I also have made you despised and abased before all the people, just as you are not keeping My ways but are showing partiality in the instruction.
This is one reason I only give you the Bible and nothing false that I know of.
 
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2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
kwillia said:
My sister reads...she is definately gifted. Never ceases to amaze me.
Never ceases to amaze me that people will believe in a spirit world and then say they don't believe in God, or that they would choose to deal with demonic, evil, or unknown spirits rather than the Holy Spirit.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Bogart said:
I just adore it when people say 'you just don't understand it' (you aren't as smart as I am) :killingme
That is true, especially when they offer only their own words and nothing more.
 

AMP

Jersey attitude.
2ndAmendment said:
Never ceases to amaze me that people will believe in a spirit world and then say they don't believe in God, or that they would choose to deal with demonic, evil, or unknown spirits rather than the Holy Spirit.

Yup, that is amazing. Which is why my beleif in the Holy SPirit and the divinity of Jesus as a man here on earth is uppermost in my mind.
 

AMP

Jersey attitude.
Bogart said:
I just adore it when people say 'you just don't understand it' (you aren't as smart as I am) :killingme

I don't adore it. I don't think it is right for someone who does not understand the history behind something tell you it's evil just because someone told him it was evil.

If I had been reading the Koran before my CCD classes and some priest swiped it in a fit of rage, I'd be pizzed at that too, and say "You don't understand what's in here."
 

AMP

Jersey attitude.
2ndAmendment said:
Again, I never cease to be amazed at God's timing. Someone PMed me about this very subject. I told them the same thing.

Posted with permission.

Calling a coincidence in your life "God's timing" is presumptuous. You're going to hell. :kiss:
 
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