Here we go again, it's only a matter of time

[kwillia]

The fact remains that the majority of citizens in this country voted for the people who are enacting these laws, both on a local and a federal level. They wanted this and the sane folks like me were outvoted.

So sit in it. I'm totally down with taking away your cakes and pies, and if you think I'm going to vote to legalize your medical marijuana, you better think again. You *should* have to suffer for your stupid voting decisions.

And with the fact that the federal government paid $2,007,358,200,000 in benefits and entitlements in fiscal year 2013 from government programs(http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...t-2-trillion-benefits-federal-government-2013) you will continue to be outvoted by those on the receiving end.

 

[SG_Player1974]

Does anyone else find it funny that YOUR government does not have enough information to make a logical choice on whether or not e-cigs are hazardous to you OR enough to decide to tax it BUT....

They sure as HELL know enough to say you cant do it publically!

This is nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction to keep the tree huggers out of their face! I bet if e-cigs had as big a lobby as alcohol does... we wouldn't be talking about this!

Example: Does anyone else wonder why they pulled the "Winston" out of the NASCAR cup circuit BUT..... Jack Daniels, Budweiser, etc. is still plastered all over the cars and advertisements?

 

[blazinlow89]

EXACTLY!!!! CO2; Death gas!!!!! That's like saying food is bad for you. Or air...

You are a harbinger of death Larry.

The fact remains that the majority of citizens in this country voted for the people who are enacting these laws, both on a local and a federal level. They wanted this and the sane folks like me were outvoted.

So sit in it. I'm totally down with taking away your cakes and pies, and if you think I'm going to vote to legalize your medical marijuana, you better think again. You *should* have to suffer for your stupid voting decisions.

One thing I cannot stand is the way politicians use social ideals to control the voters. Things that have no place in government debate all of a sudden become warfare when it comes to elections. I see your point, and agree. Its like all those who voted for Obama, only to be disappointed with the results and now want to cry.

 

[vraiblonde]

And with the fact that the federal government paid $2,007,358,200,000 in benefits and entitlements in fiscal year 2013 from government programs(http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...t-2-trillion-benefits-federal-government-2013) you will continue to be outvoted by those on the receiving end.

What will be cool is when everyone is too stoned and obese to move, and I emerge to take over the Idiocracy.

Wanna be my Secretary of something?

 

[Larry Gude]

What will be cool is when everyone is too stoned and obese to move, and I emerge to take over the Idiocracy.

Wanna be my Secretary of something?

She could be your Secretary of Agriculture! Then, Brawndo won't hurt the plants growth because they'll all be plastic!!!!

 

[Chris0nllyn]

What will be cool is when everyone is too stoned and obese to move, and I emerge to take over the Idiocracy.

Wanna be my Secretary of something?

What about the crack and meth addicts? They'll be the only skinny ones moving around.

Is that what you want?!

 

[SG_Player1974]

Wanna be my Secretary of something?

The only one you would need is a Secretary of Hallucination.

 

[somdwatch]

This is the kind of thing your votes have told government you want over the last 50 years -- the warm bosom of government to keep you safe.

It's too late to complain now. STFU and live with it.

Coming from someone who has stated they don't vote nullifies you telling others to STFU. So, STFU!

 

[GW8345]

First of all, if you are talking about the School Lunch Programs, the government only sets standards for those schools accepting federal funding. I personally agree with that - in the same way I would agree with welfare recipients having to provide drug testing in order to prove they are drug free, in the same way I agree with other standards they have to meet in order to qualify to accept taxpayer money. My son has to meet certain requirements and qualifications in order to receive SSI. I am 100% okay with those requirements & qualifications. (many people are not)

2nd of all, you look like a flipping nutter butter chasing around and posting your ad nauseam to Vrai's posts every chance you get.

Both you and Vrai obviously missed the point of my postings, if you say you have someone on ignore, then ignore them. And I was not following her around the forums, don’t flatter yourself Vrai, you ain’t that interesting.

You all bought into the myths that the government shoved down our throats and presented as truth: that nicotine kills everything it touches and if you even come into contact with a single molecule of tobacco or its smoke you will DIE! a painful horrible death. You bought that, even though it is demonstrably not true - otherwise the Japanese would be extinct. You believed what "they" told you rather than what you knew and could see with your own eyes. You bought into it. You did that. You.

So now not only is smoking banned, but anything that *looks* like smoking is banned. If it looks like smoking, even though it's not, it will make children smoke. Candy cigarettes will cause horrible cancer deaths and toddlers will be mainlining clove cigarettes. Infants keeling over from emphysema because someone in Mommy's apartment building smoked while she was pregnant.

You bought that.

So now you get to enjoy the fruits (and veggies) of your labor, which is the iron fist of government ruling every aspect of your life. Because that is what it's about. Not smoking. Not vaping. Government control.

I hope you anti-smoking crazies who brought this on all of us are proud of yourselves. This what we get when we allow the insane to shape public policy.

So says the person who wants the government to tell people what they should eat and how much they should eat, after all, it’s for the benefit of all. And your little rant that cigarettes aren’t bad is pure BS, I lost too many good friends from cancer and heart-attacks and they all had one thing in common, they all smoked.

 

[vraiblonde]

And I was not following her around the forums, don’t flatter yourself Vrai, you ain’t that interesting.

Are you kidding? If we were in the dirt world, I'd be getting out the taser and mace.

Stalker.

You'd probably feel better if you'd lose some of that weight.

 

[GW8345]

Are you kidding? If we were in the dirt world, I'd be getting out the taser and mace.

Stalker.

You'd probably feel better if you'd lose some of that weight.

Funny, you don't seem to have an issue with anyone else on this site "stalking" anyone but when you think it happens to you, you get all butt-hurt.

As for my weight, whatever you say chimney .

 

[luvmygdaughters]

I smoke cigarettes, have since I was 18 years old. I'm now over the age of 50. In all that time, I've never committed a crime to get my cigarettes. I've never robbed someone, broke into a house looking for cigarettes, wrote a prescription to obtain...well you get my point. I'm not saying all crime is drug related, but, without doing research, I would guess a very high percentage is drug related. Look at DC for goodness sake, its actually unusual to hear nothing about someone being shot and killed in DC every night. Gang and drug related I would venture to say. If they make it legal and the state oversees the selling and manufacturing, the taxes will be so high, the same ones who buy from dealer in the neighborhood, would still to continue to buy from that guy. What everyone is missing in this conversation, is, cigarettes are LEGAL. Drugs are not. Until a few years ago, you could smoke in your favorite restaurant, bar, store, etc. Hell, I can remember going to the doctors with my grandmother so she could get her checkup and guess what...the doctor smoked in his office. I was hospitalized after an auto accident back in the late 90's, I could smoke in the hospital at that time. I really think its a matter of choice. If you're an adult, you make the decision. If I own a business, pay my taxes, pay my employees, buy my inventory and pay my bills, I should have the right to offer a smoking establishment and let the public decide rather they would like to patronize my business or not.

 

[vraiblonde]

Look at DC for goodness sake, its actually unusual to hear nothing about someone being shot and killed in DC every night. Gang and drug related I would venture to say.

Didn't you hear? Drugs will be magically affordable once legalized and folks won't have to rob and steal to purchase them anymore. Those who are currently making boat loads of cash in the drug trade will put on a suit and tie and explore other career opportunities. Ghettos will be transformed into shining beacons of hope, and nobody will shoot anybody ever again.

It will be so wonderful once they legalize drugs!

 

[Larry Gude]

Didn't you hear? Drugs will be magically affordable once legalized and folks won't have to rob and steal to purchase them anymore. Those who are currently making boat loads of cash in the drug trade will put on a suit and tie and explore other career opportunities. Ghettos will be transformed into shining beacons of hope, and nobody will shoot anybody ever again.

It will be so wonderful once they legalize drugs!

That's absurd. Drug dealers already wear suits.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/30/r...months-crime-down-tex-revenue-up-in-colorado/

The organization also reports a 5.2 percent decrease in violent crime in Denver, where most marijuana stores are located, and a savings of $12 million to $40 million by years’ end for not having to enforce old marijuana possession laws.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/30/r...own-tex-revenue-up-in-colorado/#ixzz39YSau3Et

 

[Larry Gude]

...chimney .

:snort:

 

[vraiblonde]

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/30/r...months-crime-down-tex-revenue-up-in-colorado/

Geez, think how much they'd save if they didn't enforce any laws at all.

 

[Larry Gude]

Geez, think how much they'd save if they didn't enforce any laws at all.

When the law and morality contradict one another the citizen is put in the....oh, never mind!

 

[Gilligan]

Didn't you hear? Drugs will be magically affordable once legalized and folks won't have to rob and steal to purchase them anymore. !

Oh thank goodness. I need to redo my retirement assumptions now.

 

[Midnightrider]

Didn't you hear? Drugs will be magically affordable once legalized and folks won't have to rob and steal to purchase them anymore. Those who are currently making boat loads of cash in the drug trade will put on a suit and tie and explore other career opportunities. Ghettos will be transformed into shining beacons of hope, and nobody will shoot anybody ever again.

It will be so wonderful once they legalize drugs!

Guess what will happen to the price of cigarettes when they ban tobacco and nicotine. People already steal, and steal to get, cigarettes and alcohol.

But what do you think drug dealers are going to do once drugs are legalized?

 

[Chris0nllyn]