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JosephIV

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Are you saying you didnt start the thread labeled "Hollyrock Diesel Douchebags ".. because you labeled a business.. I have a-hole Harley riders do dumbass moves in traffic, should I label "All American A-Hole Harley Riders" and trash a Dealership because of people who buy a bike there> Work a day in small business owners shoes and you realize we dedicate every second of our day to making sure we put out a great product with a good reputation, it only takes something like your move here to damage us...

I'm damaging the "small dealers" reputation? Me? I never said that the business sucks. The truck drivers with big HOLLYROCK decals f$cking around in front of, behind, or beside minivans, small cars, and other trucks with mommies, daddies, and children in them are ruining the business' reputation, not me. You are one DENSE person if you don't realize this. You also have no clue how business works. Word of mouth that is positive is worth a lot more than the negative advertising that the Hollyrock Decal douchebags are providing. I'm calling them out for their actions. If the owner of the establishment wants to have a sit down with those rocking his decal that's on him/her and it's in the business' best interests. If they don't care that's also on them. I won't frequent their business as the advertising that I've seen is negative. Those are the repurcussions of his clients' actions. They hurt his business. Not me.

One of my best friends shoots competive archery. He gets PAID to perform well, to advertise the bows, arrows, clothing, and everything else he uses in competition. He acts accordingly while rocking their decals on his vehicle. He represents them positively. If I didn't know my friend and saw how curteous he is in traffic I'd associate his advertisers with my friend's good actions. Do you get this now? Please tell me you're not THAT dense. Is Hollyrock still in business? If they are and you like them then tell them that people are negatively reinforcing the name by driving like douchebags. Hopefully they give a damn and get more selective about allowing people to advertise their business. Also, the proprieter jumping on here and saying that they either give a damn or don't give a damn about how people represent them would be nice. Any action by the business would speak volumes to their character. Those rocking the decals have done so much damage to the name I'd be angry if I owned the business.
 

JosephIV

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2004 Stage 3 SRT-4 Fly-By - YouTube

Neon SRT-4 Stage 3 TOP SPEED - YouTube

And no, they dont sound like Hondas, stock exhaust was straight pipe, only cats, no mufflers. That last one was to about 170, in case you dont do math well.

Modded SRT-4's are no joke. In the late 80's my uncle's bro-in-law had an Omni GLHS. We were visiting my uncle in Landsdale, PA and the in-law stopped by with the GLHS. I thought the car was cool so I got a ride. We ended up on stretch of road with traffic lights. A then new 5.7 IROC Camaro pulled next to us at a red light. Tom (GLHS driver) looked over and revved a little. The IROC owner chuckled and shook his head. Tom got the boost up and tore off when the light turned green. We smoked the IROC. The driver looked pissed when he caught up at the red light. We went one more time and won, the Camaro driver turning left at the Chevrolet dealership. From then on I learned what the right car with the right driver could do. Tom had a Shelby Lancer after that and his brother had a Spirit RT at one point. Both were pretty quick for a turbo 4 back then. One of them also had a turbo Acclaim that was special but I have no clue what was up with it.
 
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czygvtwkr

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Hollyrock is an actual business? Hell I thought it was just some dumb ass SMIB thing.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
Got that right.

What the boys dont understand is that if enough people complain about the black smoke, it wont be long before the state is doing emissions on the diesels and from that point on, no mod will be legal.
you only have to look at Californication to see what Im talking about.
 

Caution

New Member
I'm damaging the "small dealers" reputation? Me? I never said that the business sucks. The truck drivers with big HOLLYROCK decals f$cking around in front of, behind, or beside minivans, small cars, and other trucks with mommies, daddies, and children in them are ruining the business' reputation, not me. You are one DENSE person if you don't realize this. You also have no clue how business works. Word of mouth that is positive is worth a lot more than the negative advertising that the Hollyrock Decal douchebags are providing. I'm calling them out for their actions. If the owner of the establishment wants to have a sit down with those rocking his decal that's on him/her and it's in the business' best interests. If they don't care that's also on them. I won't frequent their business as the advertising that I've seen is negative. Those are the repurcussions of his clients' actions. They hurt his business. Not me.

One of my best friends shoots competive archery. He gets PAID to perform well, to advertise the bows, arrows, clothing, and everything else he uses in competition. He acts accordingly while rocking their decals on his vehicle. He represents them positively. If I didn't know my friend and saw how curteous he is in traffic I'd associate his advertisers with my friend's good actions. Do you get this now? Please tell me you're not THAT dense. Is Hollyrock still in business? If they are and you like them then tell them that people are negatively reinforcing the name by driving like douchebags. Hopefully they give a damn and get more selective about allowing people to advertise their business. Also, the proprieter jumping on here and saying that they either give a damn or don't give a damn about how people represent them would be nice. Any action by the business would speak volumes to their character. Those rocking the decals have done so much damage to the name I'd be angry if I owned the business.

I have nothing against Hollyrock. But I do know that when I see one of their decals on a truck going down the road, I tend to be on my guard because "generally", when I see one of these trucks they end up doing something stupid. So I associate that sticker with stupidity. Unfortunately for the owner, you are what you are associated with. If he likes that kind of notoriety, those decals are paying off very well.
 
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I have nothing against Hollyrock. But I do know that when I see one of their decals on a truck going down the road, I tend to be on my guard because "generally", when I see one of these trucks they end up doing something stupid. So I associate that sticker with stupidity. Unfortunately for the owner, you are what you are associated with. If he likes that kind of notoriety, those decals are paying off very well.

I'm thinking this is exactly the case. He's getting free advertising out of this, and the longer this thread continues, the more likely his name gets out. I had never heard of them until you used their name. If I had a diesel, I'd be tempted to make a visit.

You also have to factor in the nature of his business.... he sells and assists in configuring high performance diesels. He probably doesn't consider this kind of notoriety a bad thing.
 

Caution

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I'm thinking this is exactly the case. He's getting free advertising out of this, and the longer this thread continues, the more likely his name gets out. I had never heard of them until you used their name. If I had a diesel, I'd be tempted to make a visit.

You also have to factor in the nature of his business.... he sells and assists in configuring high performance diesels. He probably doesn't consider this kind of notoriety a bad thing.

It's no different than the kids with their little souped up Hondas. Always someone out there going to be modding something. It's the American way. LOL

But for the guy saying folks should not associate these idiots with the business. It's human nature to take the easy way out. You put a BIG decal on your vehicle and act like an ass, It's just natural for folks to associate that business with the asshat driving the vehicle.
 
It's no different than the kids with their little souped up Hondas. Always someone out there going to be modding something. It's the American way. LOL

But for the guy saying folks should not associate these idiots with the business. It's human nature to take the easy way out. You put a BIG decal on your vehicle and act like an ass, It's just natural for folks to associate that business with the asshat driving the vehicle.

And actually, I meant when Joseph used his name in the OP, not you.....
 

JosephIV

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Yes, Hollyrock is a business. It's sad that people who have no clue (I thought it was a family / SOMD club thing at first) think that it's about being a redneck that drives like a tool. That is what some of these fools represent in other's eyes.

I agree that the truck owners driving like tools has bigger repurcussions that affect other drivers. How long will it be before enough people get ticked about the noise, smoke, and driving? What happens when those in power decide that action must be taken? The police have been known to crackdown on stuff like this. Ask the import tuner crowd. A few will screw it up for others.

You can mess up a good thing by abusing it. Leonardtown girl seems to think the drivers are entitled to act like douchebags because they spent money. Driving is a privelege. It can be revoked. I paid good money for my firearms. It doesn't allow me to use them in an illegal and unsafe manner. Same goes for anyone driving a vehicle.
 

Caution

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Yes, Hollyrock is a business. It's sad that people who have no clue (I thought it was a family / SOMD club thing at first) think that it's about being a redneck that drives like a tool. That is what some of these fools represent in other's eyes.

I agree that the truck owners driving like tools has bigger repurcussions that affect other drivers. How long will it be before enough people get ticked about the noise, smoke, and driving? What happens when those in power decide that action must be taken? The police have been known to crackdown on stuff like this. Ask the import tuner crowd. A few will screw it up for others.

You can mess up a good thing by abusing it. Leonardtown girl seems to think the drivers are entitled to act like douchebags because they spent money. Driving is a privelege. It can be revoked. I paid good money for my firearms. It doesn't allow me to use them in an illegal and unsafe manner. Same goes for anyone driving a vehicle.

It's all fun till someone get's hurt. There are times and places better served for playing around with a modified vehicle. Running north on 235 from Walmart to Rt.4 dodging around traffic, passing in the turn lanes, doing burn outs at redlights or racing from redlight to redlight at 5:30 in the afternoon is NOT the time or place. Find a backroad, go to the track, or hell even use that truck as a truck is intended and go make ya a few bucks. LOL.
 

JosephIV

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I'm thinking this is exactly the case. He's getting free advertising out of this, and the longer this thread continues, the more likely his name gets out. I had never heard of them until you used their name. If I had a diesel, I'd be tempted to make a visit.

You also have to factor in the nature of his business.... he sells and assists in configuring high performance diesels. He probably doesn't consider this kind of notoriety a bad thing.

It may work for a while, but every shop that gets NEGATIVE advertising eventually has problems. The professionals that give a damn will clamp down on it. If the business doesn't then the owner sucks. If I see a Hollyrock stickered truck tear down the track at an NHDRA event then I'll sit up and take notice and possibly talk to the owner/driver. When I see one tearing up the public road being a nuisance I just want to tell the driver that they are an asshat and I'd like to tell the business owner that many of his drivers are asshats. I can go further and decide to tell friends to avoid the business because the client base is a bunch of asshats and the trucks tend to run rich, smelly, and sooty wasting fuel. Such could be my opinion based on getting smoked out by a few douchebags. Would that be wrong? To some yes, to others it is justified as that is a perception earned through experience and others obviously share some negative perception of the Hollyrock name thanks to the actions of a few. I can easily badmouth the shop and help them lose business. It's not what I plan to do. My beef rests with a few of their clients right now. SMC cycles lost of a ton of business due to negative word of mouth. How did that work out for them?
 

Caution

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It may work for a while, but every shop that gets NEGATIVE advertising eventually has problems. The professionals that give a damn will clamp down on it. If the business doesn't then the owner sucks. If I see a Hollyrock stickered truck tear down the track at an NHDRA event then I'll sit up and take notice and possibly talk to the owner/driver. When I see one tearing up the public road being a nuisance I just want to tell the driver that they are an asshat and I'd like to tell the business owner that many of his drivers are asshats. I can go further and decide to tell friends to avoid the business because the client base is a bunch of asshats and the trucks tend to run rich, smelly, and sooty wasting fuel. Such could be my opinion based on getting smoked out by a few douchebags. Would that be wrong? To some yes, to others it is justified as that is a perception earned through experience and others obviously share some negative perception of the Hollyrock name thanks to the actions of a few. I can easily badmouth the shop and help them lose business. It's not what I plan to do. My beef rests with a few of their clients right now. SMC cycles lost of a ton of business due to negative word of mouth. How did that work out for them?

Meh.. at some point he'll lose his marketshare anyway. How many folks around here, in this economy, can really afford to buy those trucks and afford to mod them up? The ones that can afford it likely won't be able to afford to keep doing it, and those that can afford it will probably be few and far between because they likely have sense enough to put there money into other things. "OR" they recognize the name because of the dimwits out here giving the business a bad rep and just go elsewhere.

If I had a diesel, I'd be tempted to make a visit.

You would not likely be able to get away with hot rodding down the road. There would be a trial of wood pellets and acorns blowing out of your truckbed leading all the way home. :killingme
 

techie

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Modded SRT-4's are no joke. In the late 80's my uncle's bro-in-law had an Omni GLHS. We were visiting my uncle in Landsdale, PA and the in-law stopped by with the GLHS. I thought the car was cool so I got a ride. We ended up on stretch of road with traffic lights. A then new 5.7 IROC Camaro pulled next to us at a red light. Tom (GLHS driver) looked over and revved a little. The IROC owner chuckled and shook his head. Tom got the boost up and tore off when the light turned green. We smoked the IROC. The driver looked pissed when he caught up at the red light. We went one more time and won, the Camaro driver turning left at the Chevrolet dealership. From then on I learned what the right car with the right driver could do. Tom had a Shelby Lancer after that and his brother had a Spirit RT at one point. Both were pretty quick for a turbo 4 back then. One of them also had a turbo Acclaim that was special but I have no clue what was up with it.

Hey Douche, NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR NEON... Secondly, thanks saying that ANYONE who works blue collar is basically a loser... You drive a neon, and you insult people.. I'm impressed... Is you car pink also?
 

JosephIV

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Hey Douche, NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR NEON... Secondly, thanks saying that ANYONE who works blue collar is basically a loser... You drive a neon, and you insult people.. I'm impressed... Is you car pink also?

Somewhere there is a box of rocks gloating that it is smarter than you. Since when have I ever mentioned owning a NEON? I've had one Chrysler vehicle in my life and it had a 5.2 V8 and a transfer case lever.

I've never driven a NEON. Never. I've ridden in a modified NEON built for track days on a road course but nowhere and never have I driven a NEON let alone owned one.

Where have I said that blue collar people are basically losers? Do you have an inferiority complex? Calling out a few people who drive like douchebags means that I'm insulting blue collar people? Pink car? What are you talking about? Are you a meth head? I don't know if I should laugh at you or feel sorry for your family. Get help. Go back to school. Quit huffing paint in a bag.
 

BOP

Well-Known Member
Yes, Hollyrock is a business. It's sad that people who have no clue (I thought it was a family / SOMD club thing at first) think that it's about being a redneck that drives like a tool. That is what some of these fools represent in other's eyes.

I agree that the truck owners driving like tools has bigger repurcussions that affect other drivers. How long will it be before enough people get ticked about the noise, smoke, and driving? What happens when those in power decide that action must be taken? The police have been known to crackdown on stuff like this. Ask the import tuner crowd. A few will screw it up for others.

You can mess up a good thing by abusing it. Leonardtown girl seems to think the drivers are entitled to act like douchebags because they spent money. Driving is a privelege. It can be revoked. I paid good money for my firearms. It doesn't allow me to use them in an illegal and unsafe manner. Same goes for anyone driving a vehicle.

Until this thread, I thought it was a sand and gravel place down here. I just figured the people driving the vehicles worked for the company, and were generally richardheads, or were fixing to do something a-holish and/or stupid. That's what I associated those window stickers with until this thread.

All of the above still applies, but now I know it's some kind of vehicle custom shop. I still don't know whether the stickers belong to customers or employees; I figure both.

Many decades now, when I was a young karate student, our sensei told us "when you go out in public, you represent the dojo, especially when you have bumper stickers, t-shirts, and the like. For good or for ill, what you do reflects on all of us, so behave, or I kick your ass."
 
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