How Long Does The Usa Have?

KingFish

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HOW LONG DOES THE USA HAVE?

This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time.
The sad thing about it, you can see it coming.
I have always heard about this democracy countdown.
It is interesting to see it in print.
God help us, not that we deserve it.
How Long Do We Have?

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.'
'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.'
'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.'
'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years' 'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage'

Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

Number of States won by:
Gore: 19
Bush: 29
Square miles of land won by:
Gore: 580,000
Bush: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by:
Gore: 127 million
Bush: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore: 13.2
Bush: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.
Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare...'
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the 'governmental dependency ' phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say good-bye to the USA in fewer than five years.
 

Ponytail

New Member
Somthing has to give. You can see that we are entering a downward spiral, with hope increasing with each election.

Nobody can tell where we will be in 5 years. But to say that we will fall as a nation completely in 5 years? Dang. That's dark. Imagine what it would take for it to get there, that fast? I don't even think JPC as President could do it that fast. Not even a Senate floor full of them.

So what if it does? There's always Canada. :lol:
 

jetmonkey

New Member
HOW LONG DOES THE USA HAVE?

This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time.
The sad thing about it, you can see it coming.
I have always heard about this democracy countdown.
It is interesting to see it in print.
God help us, not that we deserve it.
How Long Do We Have?

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.'
'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.'
'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.'

'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years' 'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage'

Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

Number of States won by:
Gore: 19
Bush: 29
Square miles of land won by:
Gore: 580,000
Bush: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by:
Gore: 127 million
Bush: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore: 13.2
Bush: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.
Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare...'
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the 'governmental dependency ' phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say good-bye to the USA in fewer than five years.
That's my favorite part. I was going to use that quote as a sig a long time ago but I did some research to learn the context of it and found the origins to be quite murky so I rejected it. Google/Snopes it and see if you are interested.
 

KingFish

Nothing to see here
I personally think our nation took a downward spiral when it slowly started stamping out the christian values that our country was founded on.
 

jetmonkey

New Member
I was doing some research for work the other day and downloaded a government presentation that was brimming with alarming information. If I get motivated enough to convert it from PowerPoint and Snopes the statistics I will post it.
 

foodcritic

New Member
I personally think our nation took a downward spiral when it slowly started stamping out the christian values that our country was founded on.


I totally agree. As soon as they stopped teaching morals and values and absolute truth in school (back in the late 1800's) the downward spiral started happening. Our founding fathers knew that without morals and religion man could not survive and the country would fall apart. (If you don't believe me read their own writings and see.) I really think that is what is happening today. Until we turn back to God and start teaching virtue and morals we will slowly decay as a nation.
 

Mateo

New Member
As long as there are stout hearts to protect this land.
Cynicism and apathy are weapons of our foes However the most dangerous are not those outside but within . Hiding behind religion or racial baiting under the guise of PC is chief among their tactics.
Defense of the country by shredding its most honored laws and documents is another method of weakening us as well as loyalty to the almighty dollar in that "greed is good".
We all should share in defending this land, but some think that they don't have to share in the sacrifice.....aka Mitt who has five..FIVE,,,sons of military age, but under the guise of a volunteer army, he says he doesn't have to pay the blood price that so many have.
When I was young, there was a phrase: The best and the brightest- referring to the talent of the Kennedy administration...the oft mentioned Camelot. Well the best and the brightest got us into a maelstorm in Asia, so I think such a label is definitely a misnomer.
The best and the brightest are among you and me...we just don't have the wherewithal to help this great country out. Those who do keep the burden of taxes on the rest of us to keep us occupied lest we do as the gentlemen of Lexington and Concord did. We are kept divided by the envy of trying to keep up with our neighbors whether we can afford it or not. Madison Avenue has found our weakest point and keeps jabbing us whenever we need reminding "what is really important". We make heroes out of people who don't have a clue what the rest of us are really about and besides that, don't really care.
We are angry at illegal aliens, but why arn't those we elect keeping them out?
I am afraid, my countrymen, that when we seek the enemy...the first place we should look at is ourselves. We allow the enablers to do what they do to us and allow them to get away with it.
What then do we do ?
Stop yelling at each other and find common ground !
As Benjamin Franklin put it: We either hang seperately or hang in together.
We can do it. Our fathers did...are we no better?
 

Xaquin44

New Member
I personally think our nation took a downward spiral when it slowly started stamping out the christian values that our country was founded on.

funny, I always thought one of the major points was religious freedom.


ah well.



at least we killed all the natives like jesus would have done.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
Im telling you that its those darned homosexuals bringing us down.



well, them and the Jews.


maybe its the homosexual Jews?
 

ewashkow

New Member
As soon as they stopped teaching morals and values and absolute truth in school (back in the late 1800's) the downward spiral started happening.

Define absolute truth. I have been told by many different members of different faiths that what I believe is wrong because it differs from their beliefs.

1. I believe in God.
2. I believe there is a heaven and a hell.
3. I believe that heaven can be many different things to many different people. It can be the happiest moment of your life and you are in that moment for eternity. It can be as an angel-any type, take your pick. It can also be you want to be reincarnated for another life.
4. I believe that hell isn't fire and brimstone. Hell is the worst moment of your life and you are there for an eternity. To me, that would be hell. Not having my soul burn for an eternity because you broke one of the 10 commandments-one of which I do on almost a daily basis (THREE: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.' ).
 
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