i cant believe this,,,

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
fttrsbeerwench said:
Very weird situation...When hubby was discharged from the army, after suffering a skin eating virus and trauma from all the horrible things he saw in Iraq. They came back here and started over.. They file for bankrupcy, after having sent ALOT if money to her parents whiel stationed in MO.
These are her parents they are living with.. Her father is one mean SOB, who showeres his one grandchild with gifts and teaches her to belittle my firends daughter...All the while telling Little R., who is only 4, that she and her mother aren sorry sacks of crap and basically terrorizing the child to the point that she hardly talks anymore..
My friend is a mess. Was over here freaking out just the other day.. I keep telling her that she should put R. in daycare.. But with the bankrupcy, they can hardly afford the one car payment.. DSS won't help her unless she get's lgeal separation form her husband and she absolutly won't do that..
It's very complicated... The other grandchild is his baby-doll, since her mother is a crack head POS who's never even bought a diaper.. I don't get it.. My friend sent them money for two years to help pay bills meanwhile her sister steals money to buy drugs.. They dote on one child since they evetually will get custody of her.. But since my friend is a married woman, she can GFHS ..:confused:
My opinion: Said friend and husband should have been worried about their family, and their family alone, off the get go. They are in this situation because they chose to allow her parents to be dependent on them. Now they have to be dependent on her parents. Regardless, if I were in that situation, I'd live in a shelter before I allowed my child to be abused and belittled.
 

Steve

Enjoying life!
fttrsbeerwench said:
Very weird situation...When hubby was discharged from the army, after suffering a skin eating virus and trauma from all the horrible things he saw in Iraq. They came back here and started over.. They file for bankrupcy, after having sent ALOT if money to her parents whiel stationed in MO.
These are her parents they are living with.. Her father is one mean SOB, who showeres his one grandchild with gifts and teaches her to belittle my firends daughter...All the while telling Little R., who is only 4, that she and her mother aren sorry sacks of crap and basically terrorizing the child to the point that she hardly talks anymore..
My friend is a mess. Was over here freaking out just the other day.. I keep telling her that she should put R. in daycare.. But with the bankrupcy, they can hardly afford the one car payment.. DSS won't help her unless she get's lgeal separation form her husband and she absolutly won't do that..
It's very complicated... The other grandchild is his baby-doll, since her mother is a crack head POS who's never even bought a diaper.. I don't get it.. My friend sent them money for two years to help pay bills meanwhile her sister steals money to buy drugs.. They dote on one child since they evetually will get custody of her.. But since my friend is a married woman, she can GFHS ..:confused:
Was he discharged from the Army or did he quit? Does he receive disability for his service-related illness(es)? Has he sought jobs that hire disabled vets over normal shlubs?

Seems to me they're simply making bad choices that they have to live with.
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
Nickel said:
My opinion: Said friend and husband should have been worried about their family, and their family alone, off the get go. They are in this situation because they chose to allow her parents to be dependent on them. Now they have to be dependent on her parents. Regardless, if I were in that situation, I'd live in a shelter before I allowed my child to be abused and belittled.
:yeahthat:
 

fttrsbeerwench

New Member
Nickel said:
My opinion: Said friend and husband should have been worried about their family, and their family alone, off the get go. They are in this situation because they chose to allow her parents to be dependent on them. Now they have to be dependent on her parents. Regardless, if I were in that situation, I'd live in a shelter before I allowed my child to be abused and belittled.
It's about to come to that.....They've been back in MD almost two years and things are getting ugly.I'm trying to help him find a new job, and have even offered to let them stay with me a week or two to make the transition. My friend is really hurt that her mother lets it happen and she's basically curled up in the fetal position right now.. Her husband had never seen how bad it really was until a few days ago.
Hopefully, within the next couple weeks something will change.Myfriend was raised in a worse environment than this, and her mother is one that chooses not to see or react. You can't change the situation.. All she can do now is remove herself and her family from the problem. :ohwell:
 

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
fttrsbeerwench said:
My friend is really hurt that her mother lets it happen :
And yet she, a mother, is standing by and allowing it to happen to her child. Abusive behavior is a vicious cycle and can not be tolerated. I just can't see why someone would allow someone else to treat their helpless child that way. :shrug:
 

Oz

You're all F'in Mad...
If the father has a life insurance policy on himself, maybe you can befriend his cell-mate... :whistle:
 

fttrsbeerwench

New Member
Steve said:
Was he discharged from the Army or did he quit? Does he receive disability for his service-related illness(es)? Has he sought jobs that hire disabled vets over normal shlubs?

Seems to me they're simply making bad choices that they have to live with.
It's my understanding that he chose to leave because had he taken the medical discharge, he would not be allowed back.When you do that, you don't get the VA benefits. I pulled him aside and we talked about what he should do....He doesn't think the military will take him back and he really doesn't want to go.. He likes the field he's working in now and hates the thought of having to go back overseas.
Poor kid has nightmares to this day and I really think he's a great guy.
They were doing well up until six months ago when her father started losing his mind...They did make bad choices and I'm quick to tell her that...It won't stop me from helping her if I can.. I love her daughter like she was my own.
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
Nickel said:
And yet she, a mother, is standing by and allowing it to happen to her child. Abusive behavior is a vicious cycle and can not be tolerated. I just can't see why someone would allow someone else to treat their helpless child that way. :shrug:
:yeahthat:

Just wait until child is seriously injured by abusive grandfather and childs parents are charged with neglect for staying that situation and allowing it to happen.
 

happyazz

Skiing in the clouds
vraiblonde said:
Personally, I'd forget the health insurance unless one of the kids has a medical condition (and asthma isn't that big of a deal, unless they're constantly keeling over). Pay-as-you-go is a lot cheaper than insurance.


HAVE YOU EVER PAID FULL PRICE FOR INHAILERS??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
 

nomoney

....
happyazz said:
vraiblonde said:
Personally, I'd forget the health insurance unless one of the kids has a medical condition (and asthma isn't that big of a deal, unless they're constantly keeling over). Pay-as-you-go is a lot cheaper than insurance.


HAVE YOU EVER PAID FULL PRICE FOR INHAILERS??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
can you type any bigger? because I could barely read that.
 

fttrsbeerwench

New Member
Nickel said:
And yet she, a mother, is standing by and allowing it to happen to her child. Abusive behavior is a vicious cycle and can not be tolerated. I just can't see why someone would allow someone else to treat their helpless child that way. :shrug:
I have seen is time and again... He mother was beaten nearly to death and has been abused for ever and a day. Thats part of why the sister get treated so much better, her real father was the abuser and she "suffered" too. It's crazy!

I came from a home where my father abused my mom.. Now I am a nut about it.. If a man puts his hands on me or anyone I love, I"ll kill him.

People who have been abused are emotional wrecks... This bunch of people are the kind that let :shrug:
 

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
fttrsbeerwench said:
People who have been abused are emotional wrecks...
I know that. My aunt and cousin (just the son, not the girls) were severely abused by her husband. They moved from Maine to NC to live in our house to escape the abuse. They still struggle with the emotional aspect of having been abused, almost 20 years later. Which is why it is unacceptable for this child to be living in that situation for even a day.
 

NAS

Active Member
to the person who sent me the red first of all u must not have read all the posts
i quit my job to take careof her 2 children so she would not have to worry about them and all i did was ask for help and suggestions, u didnt give any good advise i guess (seein u didnt sign it) but its all good, things like karma r not the most important thing to me my grandbabies are
im not sure how to post it but what this person said was...how about you pick up the slack MOM, they are your grandkids durrrr,
well thats why i posted what i did to help my grandkids!!!!!!!! if u dont know where to go for answers u ask correct?? i did ask here because i knew people would help which all oh but one (U)
 
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Steve

Enjoying life!
fttrsbeerwench said:
It's my understanding that he chose to leave because had he taken the medical discharge, he would not be allowed back. He doesn't think the military will take him back and he really doesn't want to go..
So, even with the flesh-eating virus and the possible PTSD from Iraq, he voluntarily chose to leave the Army - because he thought at the time that he might want to return some day? That about right?

Again, they seem to be plagued by poor choices more than anything else.
 

Toxick

Splat
NAS said:
i would like to know who could help me find someone to e-mail /call to try to help she will b goin to health dept, i hope they can help



The way I understand it, Maryland has a Healthy Kids program (or something like that - I forgot exactly what it's called) and if you don't have insurance another way, they'll hook you up.

And I'm not sure but I think that pregnant women are also covered by that since they're the wrapper around the baby.

So to speak.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
happyazz said:
HAVE YOU EVER PAID FULL PRICE FOR INHAILERS??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
Oh yeah? Well your azz doesn't look very happy to me. So it appears that it's YOU that doesn't know what you're talking about. :flick:
 

NAS

Active Member
u people are life savers the info u gave me helped a million my daughter went to the health dept and now the grandbabies have health insurance Thanks all =)
 
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