Is it possible for gays to go to heaven?

Xbox360

Xbox360

Major Nelson is my hero
bcp said:
although I personally must agree with you, I tend to think that there will be no gays or heteros in Heaven. I think that sexual preference is something that we are tortured with here on earth, and that in Heaven it will not exist at all, either way.
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That sounds more like purgatory to me. I don't find having sex to be a torturous affair. I would like to think in heaven I could have all the sex I want with no consequences.
 
bcp

bcp

In My Opinion
Xbox360 said:
That sounds more like purgatory to me. I don't find having sex to be a torturous affair. I would like to think in heaven I could have all the sex I want with no consequences.
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thats your earthly thoughts causing you to say that.
Im thinking that it wont be a desire at all in Heaven.
Keeps the pervs out of the Halo closets.
 
Xbox360

Xbox360

Major Nelson is my hero
bcp said:
thats your earthly thoughts causing you to say that.
Im thinking that it wont be a desire at all in Heaven.
Keeps the pervs out of the Halo closets.
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no, people from heaven still have sex. They just come to earth to do it. Haven't you herd how Zues had many children by having sex with an earthlings, nymphs, and goddesses.
 
bcp

bcp

In My Opinion
Xbox360 said:
no, people from heaven still have sex. They just come to earth to do it. Haven't you herd how Zues had many children by having sex with an earthlings, nymphs, and goddesses.
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Look dude, face it. YOU AINT GETTING NONE, and to make it worse, they dont have Xbox there either.
 
bcp

bcp

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Xbox360 said:
in that case I'm staying hear on earth were I can enjoy myself
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well, dont get married, becuase the sex thing works out almost like Heaven.

yes speller police, I do realize that because is wrong above.

Left it there so you can still have a good day.
 
Starman3000m

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PsyOps said:
What about guitars? Are there guitars there?
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Sorry PsyOps. The stringed instrument of choice is not going to be a Gibson Les Paul; Explorer; Flying V; nor will it be a Fender Stratocaster; Telecaster; and definitely not an Ibanez model.

It's the Harp! (lol)
P.S. The tempo may be a bit different as well. :buddies:
 

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PsyOps

PsyOps

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Starman3000m said:
Sorry PsyOps. The stringed instrument of choice is not going to be a Gibson Les Paul; Explorer; Flying V; nor will it be a Fender Stratocaster; Telecaster; and definitely not an Ibanez model.

It's the Harp! (lol)
P.S. The tempo may be a bit different as well. :buddies:
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The guitar has often been referred to as a 6-stringed harp so..............

I imagine it to look more like this.
 

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rubberbandheart

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hotcoffee said:
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Some sins are harder FOR US to allow ourselves to be forgiven. That's where I'VE been headed all through this thread.... The man on the Eastern Shore claimed to be saved.... It's not always that easy sometimes.... THAT'S where I was going with my comments. Sometimes WE hinder our own salvation.

:coffee:
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Seems to me you started this thread to stir the pot. Or else you'd have asked "If someone claims to be saved, though they still screw up, can they still get into heaven?"
 
PsyOps

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rubberbandheart said:
Seems to me you started this thread to stir the pot. Or else you'd have asked "If someone claims to be saved, though they still screw up, can they still get into heaven?"
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That's not really the premise of coffee’s question as I understand it. This should apply across the spectrum of ‘sins’. There isn’t a Christian on here that can claim that because they are saved they will never sin again. That’s not the point.

The point is, if being gay is a sin, can someone claim they are saved and consciously go on committing that sin? I think it goes a little deeper than that. I think gay people don’t believe their behavior is a sin. I think they believe it is perfectly natural to be gay. Given that, there is really no way to have a rational discussion about this. It will all get sorted out in the end.
 
hotcoffee

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PsyOps said:
That's not really the premise of coffee’s question as I understand it. This should apply across the spectrum of ‘sins’. There isn’t a Christian on here that can claim that because they are saved they will never sin again. That’s not the point.
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Agreed and well said....


PsyOps said:
The point is, if being gay is a sin, can someone claim they are saved and consciously go on committing that sin? I think it goes a little deeper than that. I think gay people don’t believe their behavior is a sin. I think they believe it is perfectly natural to be gay. Given that, there is really no way to have a rational discussion about this. It will all get sorted out in the end.
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The point is.... Being gay is not the sin.... Being a thief or a drunk or a myriad of other things is not the sin.... It's the act or the behavior that is the sin [according to the Bible as sex outside of the marriage as defined by God].

There are plenty of gay people who have become Christians and then made an effort to sin no more successfully. Much like the thief or the drunk makes an effort to sin no more successfully.

It's not even the success of the effort.... it's the acceptance of Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior that opens the way to Heaven...

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Zguy28

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hotcoffee said:
It's not even the success of the effort.... it's the acceptance of Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior that opens the way to Heaven...

:coffee:
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And this is key. A person will never conquer habitual sin without faith in Jesus Christ and repentance (which always accompanies saving faith). He must be your affection, not food or porn or possessions.

Like the adulterer or the glutton, the homosexual will never see heaven without faith in Jesus Christ and repentance.
 
hotcoffee

hotcoffee

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Zguy28 said:
And this is key. A person will never conquer habitual sin without faith in Jesus Christ and repentance (which always accompanies saving faith). He must be your affection, not food or porn or possessions.

Like the adulterer or the glutton, the homosexual will never see heaven without faith in Jesus Christ and repentance.
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Isn't it wonderful that Jesus Christ came to offer us Salvation so that when the temptations of life become too much for us, He is there to forgive us, understand our weakness, and help us through the times when temptations plague us.... I am so grateful for my Lord and Savior..... I am so grateful for His Grace.

Even those who we would think would never see the Glory of Heaven have hope and Salvation in the name of Jesus Christ.

I know what it's like to strive to overcome gluttony, drunkedness, and pride. It's so much easier with Christ on my side.

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rubberbandheart

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hotcoffee said:
I started the thread to open a discussion.

:coffee:
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Surely the Bible says something about sitting around, striking up conversation about who we think is going to heaven...

Regardless... clumping people is ridiculous. Asking "Can gays get into heaven" is no different than asking "Is my neighbor going to heaven? Is my brother going to heaven?" Who sits around doing that? I know you gave a scenario, but there is so much more in there than just being gay. You don't know every gay person to know if a blanket statement would cover them.

I have noticed this shift from "We all fall short of the glory of God" to "I'm not gay, so I'm safe..."
 
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