Kindergarten homework...

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
It is mandatory in a lot of places. Why wouldn't anybody want their child to go to Pre K?

I believe it is due to lack of teachers in the county. There isn't enough space in the schools. I think that Hollywood ES has about 20-23 kids per class. One A.M. class and one P.M. class.
 

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
Because public schools offer spots to less than 10% of children of the appropriate age. A good private pre-k is expensive and daycare centers that like to pretend they are pre-k's don't do anything any conciencious parent can't do at home.

Most private Pre-K's run around $900 per month. Some in-home daycares will offer Pre-K lessons but after seeing what the kids really learn in Pre-K those daycares are not teaching them as much.
 
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ketelone

Guest
Because public schools offer spots to less than 10% of children of the appropriate age. A good private pre-k is expensive and daycare centers that like to pretend they are pre-k's don't do anything any conciencious parent can't do at home.

You will have to bare with me because I am not from around here...so you are saying that Public Schools don't accept ALL kids that want to go to Pre K? You have to apply for a "spot"? If so, that is sad.
 

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
You will have to bare with me because I am not from around here...so you are saying that Public Schools don't accept ALL kids that want to go to Pre K? You have to apply for a "spot"? If so, that is sad.

The kid has to take a test. If they are from a broken family, poor, or behind in development they will get in.
 

Dymphna

Loyalty, Friendship, Love
Most private Pre-K's run around $900 per month. Some in-home daycares will offer Pre-K lessons but after seeing what the kids really learn in Pre-K those daycares are not teaching them as much.
Depends on the daycare. There is legislation introduced in the General Assembly every year to certify certain daycares, both homes and center based as pre-k centers, authorized to contract their services to the public school systems in order to provide pre-k services to more children.

Child advocacy groups support this legislation every year, but it keeps getting lost in committee. Meanwhile, the State Dept of Education, which also supports this legislation is working to get more daycares, expecially home daycares to the point where they are doing real pre-k curriculums, so that when this legislation eventually passes, there will be daycare providers already in place to impliment it.
 

Dymphna

Loyalty, Friendship, Love
You will have to bare with me because I am not from around here...so you are saying that Public Schools don't accept ALL kids that want to go to Pre K? You have to apply for a "spot"? If so, that is sad.
The space and personnel is very limited. That's the reason behind introducing legislation to certify daycares as pre-k centers. They have personnel, they have space, they already have a lot of the children in their care. The legislation, when it gets passed will provide some money and proper certifications and oversight by the State Board of Education to ensure the children are getting a pre-k curriculum.
 

pebbles

Member
ARE you kidding me, this is what is wrong with kids today! School starts at Pre-K...right? Why should they not get homework in kindergarden? Because they are 5? I am a 24 YO and ever since I can remember we had homework every night. This is what school is about, It is not "daycare" or "play dates" it is SCHOOL. Help these children of the next generation become better than the last...:buddies:

Pre-K is NOT mandatory & it's not easy to get into....if your kid knows too much they won't be selected, unless you don't make very much money or the kid comes from a split family etc etc

Kindergarten is the beginning of school for a lot of these kids & overwhelm them with homework when it's already a huge adjustment for most & you set them up to hate school from the beginning.
 

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
Depends on the daycare. There is legislation introduced in the General Assembly every year to certify certain daycares, both homes and center based as pre-k centers, authorized to contract their services to the public school systems in order to provide pre-k services to more children.

Child advocacy groups support this legislation every year, but it keeps getting lost in committee. Meanwhile, the State Dept of Education, which also supports this legislation is working to get more daycares, expecially home daycares to the point where they are doing real pre-k curriculums, so that when this legislation eventually passes, there will be daycare providers already in place to impliment it.

You are correct. I am sure that some daycares do it. They daycare that my kids are in is great. She works with my son with his speech on a daily basis.
 
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CalvertNewbie

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Most private Pre-K's run around $900 per month. Some in-home daycares will offer Pre-K lessons but after seeing what the kids really learn in Pre-K those daycares are not teaching them as much.

Holy crap! Are you kidding me? $900 per month is insane. Isn't Pre-K generally only a few hours per day or is it different here in Maryland? I was under the wrong assumption - I just figured that everyone could get into a public Pre-K program.

In NY, almost everyone goes to Pre-K. It's almost as if you're a bad parent if you don't send your kid to Pre-K, like you're not preparing them for Kindergarten. Hmmm, I didn't realize that this would be an issue here. :ohwell:
 

twinoaks207

Having Fun!
Pre-K is NOT mandatory & it's not easy to get into....if your kid knows too much they won't be selected, unless you don't make very much money or the kid comes from a split family etc etc

Kindergarten is the beginning of school for a lot of these kids & overwhelm them with homework when it's already a huge adjustment for most & you set them up to hate school from the beginning.

The Pre-K program in most counties was started as an extension of the Head Start program (federal to assist poverty level children who did not have same advantages as children whose parents could afford to put them into private programs). At this point it is limited because of space issues, not enough certificated teachers, and funding issues.

You can really tell in Kindergarten which kids have had PreK and which have not. The children who have been in Pre-K move through the curriculum faster because of prior exposure. For the most part, the children are all pretty much at the same level by 2nd or 3rd grade depending upon individual ability levels. We do get children in kindergarten who do not know how to spell their name, do not know colors, do not know the alphabet, etc., in PG County schools (and I'm at a really good one!). The ones that I really feel badly for are the ones whose primary language is something other than English. Those poor babies come into school at age 4, not knowing anything about school and not being able to communicate in the same language -- many tears are shed the first few weeks. ESOL (English for Speakers of Other Languages) services don't start until Kdg. Makes me crazy! :banghead:

My four kids never went to PreK or to a daycare center. We had home daycare for them & made sure that they all knew the alphabet, how to write it, how to write their name, colors, etc. before they went to school.

As long as you spend time with your children, explain as many things as you can in answer to their questions (why are the leaves green?), and READ to them, they'll be okay.

Personally, I think the homework bit starts too early and we're piling too much on our kids. They need more time to just be kids. And that's coming from 27+ years in the teaching field. Today's high-stakes testing and the demands of the curriculums to meet the federal legislation (No Child Left Behind) are just ridiculous. The idea is good, the implementation sucks! We spend so much time testing, there's little time to teach and we're stressing the kids out like you wouldn't believe!
 

LusbyMom

You're a LOON :)
Sure they do...on the playground and at home. A few minutes of homework is not going to kill them. I'm happy to sit down with my son for 15 minutes a day to work with him. Even on the nights that he doesn't have homework, we still sit down to practice writing letters and numbers. :shrug:

My kids get a whole 10 minutes on the playground at school. Sorry but that is pathetic. I am fine with them having homework but they shouldn't have tons of homework. They are at school all day.

So much more is expected out of kids these days. Kindergarten isn't anywhere close to the way it use to be. These kids have to know so much in Kindergarten. If they don't know everything coming in OMG something must be wrong with them.

Then the schools push them through even if they don't know everything. My friends son is in 3rd grade this year. He has been pushed through even when his mom asked that he be held back in 1st grade. They wouldn't do it. Now in 3rd grade their is panic because no one understands how he made it to 3rd. And with Calverts grading policy he is doing WORSE then anyone realized because he can't score below a 50%.
 

LusbyMom

You're a LOON :)
The Pre-K program in most counties was started as an extension of the Head Start program (federal to assist poverty level children who did not have same advantages as children whose parents could afford to put them into private programs). At this point it is limited because of space issues, not enough certificated teachers, and funding issues.

You can really tell in Kindergarten which kids have had PreK and which have not. The children who have been in Pre-K move through the curriculum faster because of prior exposure. For the most part, the children are all pretty much at the same level by 2nd or 3rd grade depending upon individual ability levels. We do get children in kindergarten who do not know how to spell their name, do not know colors, do not know the alphabet, etc., in PG County schools (and I'm at a really good one!). The ones that I really feel badly for are the ones whose primary language is something other than English. Those poor babies come into school at age 4, not knowing anything about school and not being able to communicate in the same language -- many tears are shed the first few weeks. ESOL (English for Speakers of Other Languages) services don't start until Kdg. Makes me crazy! :banghead:

My four kids never went to PreK or to a daycare center. We had home daycare for them & made sure that they all knew the alphabet, how to write it, how to write their name, colors, etc. before they went to school.

As long as you spend time with your children, explain as many things as you can in answer to their questions (why are the leaves green?), and READ to them, they'll be okay.

Personally, I think the homework bit starts too early and we're piling too much on our kids. They need more time to just be kids. And that's coming from 27+ years in the teaching field. Today's high-stakes testing and the demands of the curriculums to meet the federal legislation (No Child Left Behind) are just ridiculous. The idea is good, the implementation sucks! We spend so much time testing, there's little time to teach and we're stressing the kids out like you wouldn't believe!


I worked with my son when he was 2-4. I tried to teach him to write, his name, his colors, his alphabet. He just would not get it. He went to PK and didn't learn a whole lot. He still did not know his alphabet when he went into Kindergarten. Towards the end of K it all finally clicked for him.
 

DQ2B

Active Member
Most private Pre-K's run around $900 per month. Some in-home daycares will offer Pre-K lessons but after seeing what the kids really learn in Pre-K those daycares are not teaching them as much.

Where on earth did you see $900/month pre-K tution? It cost me less than $200/month for my kids.
 

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
My kids get a whole 10 minutes on the playground at school. Sorry but that is pathetic. I am fine with them having homework but they shouldn't have tons of homework. They are at school all day.

So much more is expected out of kids these days. Kindergarten isn't anywhere close to the way it use to be. These kids have to know so much in Kindergarten. If they don't know everything coming in OMG something must be wrong with them.

Then the schools push them through even if they don't know everything. My friends son is in 3rd grade this year. He has been pushed through even when his mom asked that he be held back in 1st grade. They wouldn't do it. Now in 3rd grade their is panic because no one understands how he made it to 3rd. And with Calverts grading policy he is doing WORSE then anyone realized because he can't score below a 50%.


:yeahthat: Plus my son doesn't get home until almost 4:30pm (almost an hour and a half after school is over because of the bus route they take). He does his homework right after he gets home and by then, it's time to get ready for dinner. Add on the fact that it gets dark earlier now.
 

StrawberryGal

Sweet and Innocent
Pre-K is NOT mandatory & it's not easy to get into....if your kid knows too much they won't be selected, unless you don't make very much money or the kid comes from a split family etc etc

Kindergarten is the beginning of school for a lot of these kids & overwhelm them with homework when it's already a huge adjustment for most & you set them up to hate school from the beginning.

Or kids who have parents who are disabled such as deaf, blind, etc. can get in pre-k with no problem.

My son is in pre-k because I'm deaf and I can't teach him with speech since I don't say alot of words correctly, and my voice have no emotions (it's flat mono tone). Also, I talk too soft that no one could hear me. He's getting that at school to learn how to have emotions in his voice, speaking correct words, etc.

Before my son entered pre-k, he already know all of his ABC's, colors, numbers, shapes, etc. The only downfall is that I couldn't help with spoken language. That's when the school step in to help me that I couldn't do and I appreciate it very much.

My son only get homework about once a week.
 
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