Lake Lariat not really closed?

[residentofcre]

Unbelievable. "gallons and gallons"....?????

A 48 pound child would only need to consume 1/20 of a liter contaminated at 20 ppb microcystin before it exceeds the levels considered possible for liver damage by the World Health Organization. A 24 pound child would only need to consume 1/40th of a liter. In either case they would at least suffer from diarrhea.

The maximum level of microcystin toxin for consumable water worldwide is set at 1 ppb. 1/20th the level found in Lake Lariat.

Skin exposure for extended periods to 20 ppb microcystin will nearly always produce a rash that resembles an allergic reaction to food. It is not an allergy, it is a poisoning. Benadryl will probably not help.

In many instances, the U.S. is well behind the rest of the world in recognizing certain environmental health threats. This is just one of them.

Let's consider relative toxicity. Chlorine is recommended in public water supplies at a level of 1 ppm. At 4 ppm it is considered toxic and at 6 ppm you couldn't get it past your nose and it will bleach your clothes.

To be so cavalier about this stuff is really sickening.

Do you have a link for the information you quoted there? I'm not being cavalier. I if you have a link for me to research it... I'd be happy to. I'm Activities, ARC, and Roads... I'm reporting what I read from the web too... I lost the link I found... show me yours please ....

I would be happy to correct myself.... [maybe you could put the arsenic link up too.... ]

 

[toppick08]

Our immune systems work miracles...........

 

[tommyjones]

Our immune systems work miracles...........

you are welcome to come to my dock and test your theory by swimming in and drinking the lake water

 

[residentofcre]

Talked to my neighbor yesterday and she thought the lake was closed because they found a dead dog in there. Told her no, it's because of the algae. It's bad enough with the truth, don't need rumors to make it worse. I told her she probably got it confused with Lake Anna where the park ranger shot his dog and threw it into the lake.

This is the quote I saw....

 

[woogie]

To clarify;

This was from a conversation with the dog's owner
in Food Lion at Solomons. We were just having an
informal conversation regarding the state of things
in CRE while standing at the checkout line.

I happened to be in the area for the week with some
friends. Didn't catch his name as there wasn't much
time.

He did say that the Vet was the one who told him
what his dog died from. I'm guessing he had some
tests done as he seemed very attached to his (late)
dog (it's a 'guy' thing).

 

[toppick08]

you are welcome to come to my dock and test your theory by swimming in and drinking the lake water

Ok..I'm sure I've been in worse, and I'm still kicking........

 

[residentofcre]

To clarify;

This was from a conversation with the dog's owner
in Food Lion at Solomons. We were just having an
informal conversation regarding the state of things
in CRE while standing at the checkout line.

I happened to be in the area for the week with some
friends. Didn't catch his name as there wasn't much
time.

He did say that the Vet was the one who told him
what his dog died from. I'm guessing he had some
tests done as he seemed very attached to his (late)
dog (it's a 'guy' thing).

I am so sorry to hear that.... I'll work on it immediately....

Emails will go to the board...

 

[tommyjones]

Ok..I'm sure I've been in worse, and I'm still kicking........

maybe you swim in septic tanks, i dont know. but i do know that the HEALTH DEPARTMENT posted warnings about contact with lake water.
I believe that there is a concern, and i can see plenty of reason for it from my dock.

 

[woogie]

Yeah ... It was a pretty nice looking black lab.
That's why he was always walking it along the
shore line.

This guy even had a picture of it in his wallet!

 

[residentofcre]

I can't find a link between Pythiosis and the algae.... doesn't mean there isn't one... just that I can find it...

Pythiosis

Pythiosis is an infectious disease caused by a fungus-like organism, Pythiuminsidiosum, that naturally inhabits wetlands, ponds, and swamps. In dogs, the disease usually is manifested by gastroenteritis or dermatitis. Presumably dogs become infected by ingesting, or swimming in contaminated water. Pythiosis is endemic in states that border the Gulf of Mexico, but has been diagnosed in dogs from southern Indiana (with no history of travel outside the state). Dogs with gastrointestinal pythiosis often have a history of retrieving objects, such as sticks, from water and then chewing on them; young male retriever-type dogs are particularly at risk. Dogs with open skin wounds are probably predisposed to acquiring cutaneouspythiosis is an infectious disease caused by a fungus-like organism, Pythiuminsidiosum, that naturally inhabits wetlands, ponds, and swamps. In dogs, the disease usually is manifested by gastroenteritis or dermatitis. Presumably dogs become infected by ingesting, or swimming in contaminated water. Pythiosis is endemic in states that border the Gulf of Mexico, but has been diagnosed in dogs from southern Indiana (with no history of travel outside the state). Dogs with gastrointestinal pythiosis often have a history of retrieving objects, such as sticks, from water and then chewing on them; young male retriever-type dogs are particularly at risk. Dogs with open skin wounds are probably predisposed to acquiring cutaneouspythiosis

 

[exnodak]

I had to look it up. I wasn't familiar with it. It is a bacterium/fungus like spore that resides in stagnant water. Not related to the microcystis, but shares the same kind of habitat. If one exists, the other will probably exist too. This is true of a whole bunch of different kinds of critters.

 

[woogie]

Whoa! Possibly from a person who has moved here
from another area? (Lots of those with the base and
all) Another water-borne organism to look out for?

I see that you did say in our press-release that the
retriever types of dogs are susceptible (I guess because
they are water dogs) to this.

Interesting! Scary! I wish now that I'd learned more
from this guy! Only talked to him maybe a couple of
minutes.

 

[residentofcre]

I'm not disputing you.... just doing research... that said... everything I find has it in Indiana and around the Gulf of Mexico....

I've googled it a few ways and come up with two distrinct regions.... odd...

I'll have to spend some more time on it... unless you want to send me more links than google offers....

I've got to go to the store and pick up my daughter so I won't be able to work on it again until tonight... after the OA meeting....

I hear that everyone around the lake was supposed to get a written warning about the algae.

 

[itsbob]

The Potomac River below Washington D.C. had massive blooms of Microcystis in the 1960’s and, although they still appear periodically in this region, these blooms have been reduced by improved wastewater treatment.

So who's still taking a crap in Lake Lariat??

 

[itsbob]

I'm not disputing you.... just doing research... that said... everything I find has it in Indiana and around the Gulf of Mexico....

I've googled it a few ways and come up with two distrinct regions.... odd...

I'll have to spend some more time on it... unless you want to send me more links than google offers....

I've got to go to the store and pick up my daughter so I won't be able to work on it again until tonight... after the OA meeting....

I hear that everyone around the lake was supposed to get a written warning about the algae.

Harmful Algae

 

[itsbob]

May want to check the water for Mycobacterium Marinum too.. apparently is prevalent in the Bay in less saline and freshwater portions.

Six cases of Mycobacterium marinum infections of the deeper structures of the hand are described which clinically and histologically were indistinguishable from tuberculosis. The infections became worse with steroid therapy. Surgical débridement with appropriate drug therapy (ethambutol or rifampin [TB meds]) was the treatment of choice. The organism must be suspected and then cultured at 30 to 32 degrees centigrade instead of the usual 37 degrees.

 

[toppick08]

maybe you swim in septic tanks, i dont know. but i do know that the HEALTH DEPARTMENT posted warnings about contact with lake water.
I believe that there is a concern, and i can see plenty of reason for it from my dock.

The health dept. has also issued warnings about the Bay and it's tributaries, but people are still going to seafood restuarants.

 

[Merlin99]

To clarify;

This was from a conversation with the dog's owner
in Food Lion at Solomons. We were just having an
informal conversation regarding the state of things
in CRE while standing at the checkout line.

I happened to be in the area for the week with some
friends. Didn't catch his name as there wasn't much
time.

He did say that the Vet was the one who told him
what his dog died from. I'm guessing he had some
tests done as he seemed very attached to his (late)
dog (it's a 'guy' thing).

Maybe it got bit by a water moccasin.

 

[itsbob]

The health dept. has also issued warnings about the Bay and it's tributaries, but people are still going to seafood restuarants.

The Bay and the Rivers are somewhat self cleaning.. running water, water being replaced from bigger cleaner supplies.

Lake Lariat, from what I gather is a stagnant cess pool.

 

[itsbob]

Maybe it got bit by a water moccasin.

never put on your shoes without checking them for spiders, scorpions and the like..





Oh wait, not THAT kind of Moccasin?