Layoffs begin for tens of thousands of federal workers

OccamsRazor

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At the end of all of this....the employees that we really need in gummint will still be employed..even if it means being cut for now. Had to slash and burn first....no other way.
I agree that cuts needed to be made and should be made BUT... to say there was "no other way" is far from the truth. There were PLENTY of smarter ways to trim the fat and eliminate unproductive and unneeded workers.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
I agree that cuts needed to be made and should be made BUT... to say there was "no other way" is far from the truth. There were PLENTY of smarter ways to trim the fat and eliminate unproductive and unneeded workers.
And that exact kind of thinking is exactly why it hasn’t been done in the last three attempts. Always some reason why it’s not the right way.

All the hand ringing over “careful consideration” or “studying the workforce requirements” and other bullshit reasons to throw the brakes on things…

Take a chainsaw to it.

it won’t actually happen any other way.
 

OccamsRazor

Well-Known Member
And that exact kind of thinking is exactly why it hasn’t been done in the last three attempts. Always some reason why it’s not the right way.

All the hand ringing over “careful consideration” or “studying the workforce requirements” and other bullshit reasons to throw the brakes on things…

Take a chainsaw to it.

it won’t actually happen any other way.
Funny you say this... It is verbatim publicity speak for how this is getting done. I thought we were independent thinkers and not consuming the media speak...
To limit the potential of how this could have been executed by saying "there was no other way" is asinine. There are PLENTY of better or alternative ways to go about it.
As for your reasoning to WHY it was not done before, well.. that is because there was no real WILL to get it done. Until now.
Like I said, I think the WILL is there and it should be done... just in a better way.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
Funny you say this... It is verbatim publicity speak for how this is getting done. I thought we were independent thinkers and not consuming the media speak...
To limit the potential of how this could have been executed by saying "there was no other way" is asinine. There are PLENTY of better or alternative ways to go about it.
As for your reasoning to WHY it was not done before, well.. that is because there was no real WILL to get it done. Until now.
Like I said, I think the WILL is there and it should be done... just in a better way.
There was plenty of Will to get it done from the top.

Once it started being implemented into the bureaucratic machinery, it started grinding to a halt through “examinations” “studies” “re-organizations” and every other bullshit bureaucratic stall tactic they could use.

Burn it down and start over.
 

OccamsRazor

Well-Known Member
There was plenty of Will to get it done from the top.

Once it started being implemented into the bureaucratic machinery, it started grinding to a halt through “examinations” “studies” “re-organizations” and every other bullshit bureaucratic stall tactic they could use.

Burn it down and start over.
That thought process is akin to having plumbing issues in your home and, instead of identifying each problem individually and fixing them one-by-one.... you rip out all of the plumbing and start over.

Meanwhile, you get to have no water to drink and you get to sh!t in a bucket for the next few weeks while its being repaired.

Not the best strategy but, I am aware that you won't be convinced that there are possibly better ways to go about it so...
 
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Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
That thought process is akin to having plumbing issues in your home and, instead of identifying each problem individually and fixing them one-by-one.... you rip out all of the plumbing and start over.

Meanwhile, you get to have no water to drink and you get to sh!t in a bucket for the next few weeks while its being repaired.

Not the best strategy but, I am aware that you won't be convinced that there are possibly better ways to go about it so...
You work for the federal government don’t you.
 

black dog

Free America
There was plenty of Will to get it done from the top.

Once it started being implemented into the bureaucratic machinery, it started grinding to a halt through “examinations” “studies” “re-organizations” and every other bullshit bureaucratic stall tactic they could use.

Burn it down and start over.
Like a Viking ship on fire!
 

black dog

Free America
That thought process is akin to having plumbing issues in your home and, instead of identifying each problem individually and fixing them one-by-one.... you rip out all of the plumbing and start over.

Meanwhile, you get to have no water to drink and you get to sh!t in a bucket for the next few weeks while its being repaired.

Not the best strategy but, I am aware that you won't be convinced that there are possibly better ways to go about it so...
Our Father taught his children to keep plenty of store-able food and gallons of water in our homes, that way we were prepared for when we had no food or water available.
 

OccamsRazor

Well-Known Member
Our Father taught his children to keep plenty of store-able food and gallons of water in our homes, that way we were prepared for when we had no food or water available.
So your argument is to slash and burn because you are a Doomsday prepper? No sense in continuing the conversation then...
 

black dog

Free America
So your argument is to slash and burn because you are a Doomsday prepper? No sense in continuing the conversation then...
Prepper thats f ucking funny, If one doesn't keep a week or two worth of food and water at home is stupid.
I should have known better that you can have a adult conversation.
 

OccamsRazor

Well-Known Member
Prepper thats f ucking funny, If one doesn't keep a week or two worth of food and water at home is stupid.
I should have known better that you can have a adult conversation.
A conversation based on facts and real world events... sure.
Speaking what you call "adult" conversation.. I suppose not.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
Prepper thats f ucking funny, If one doesn't keep a week or two worth of food and water at home is stupid.
I should have known better that you can have an adult conversation.
Why bother to keep something on hand when you can just put your hand out to the government.

Oh wait, let’s ask the people in North Carolina.

Did they get actual help from uncle FEMA or from cousin Fred?
 

black dog

Free America
Why bother to keep something on hand when you can just put your hand out to the government.

Oh wait, let’s ask the people in North Carolina.

Did they get actual help from uncle FEMA or from cousin Fred?
Yep,
Oh, my toilets out of order!!! I have no water to drink....

He would never make it with an A2, a canteen a few MRE's and a woobie.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
Yep,
Oh, my toilets out of order!!! I have no water to drink....

He would never make it with an A2, a canteen a few MRE's and a woobie.
Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t like depending on anyone.

And to the folks in North Carolina with no house, no stores, no cars, no roads,…

FEMA: ”Here’s your $750 debit card… Chew it slow slowly.”
 

black dog

Free America
Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t like depending on anyone.

And to the folks in North Carolina with no house, no stores, no cars, no roads,…

FEMA: ”Here’s your $750 debit card… Chew it slow slowly.”
Aggggh.. I heard it on the news so its going to happen.
Insert meme of Richard Pryor running down the street on fire...
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
Funny you say this... It is verbatim publicity speak for how this is getting done. I thought we were independent thinkers and not consuming the media speak...

So because Trump or Musk says a word means nobody else can say it or it's "media speak"?

If anything they're copying us because many of us right on here have been saying long before they did.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
That thought process is akin to having plumbing issues in your home and, instead of identifying each problem individually and fixing them one-by-one.... you rip out all of the plumbing and start over.

And if the problem is so huge and involves the whole system, that's exactly what you have to do.
 
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