LETS CANCEL SPACEX's CONTRACTS!!!!

[glhs837]

You do that skippy........ Who the hell will pick up that slack? Maybe the Chinese would do it for us? Quite a lot of these were Starlink launches. Which network carries a lot of traffic and is in use by our military, govt and commercial airlines. Some others were Starshield, the US govt owned and operated classified network for both comms and surveillance. Others were NASA missions or commercial or other US govt science/military sats.

 

[Kyle]

Yeah, that won't work out too well.

 

[limblips]

Left emotion vs Right knowledge.

 

[OccamsRazor]

Just throwing this out there for consideration.....

If Obama had brought in George Soros in a capacity to be the head of an auditing department as his consultant... and was given military contracts to benefit from... would you all be OK with that?

And yes, I already know this is very "unpopular opinion" around these parts. Just trying to get an idea of what you all would think about that.

 

[limblips]

Just throwing this out there for consideration.....

If Obama had brought in George Soros in a capacity to be the head of an auditing department as his consultant... and was given military contracts to benefit from... would you all be OK with that?

And yes, I already know this is very "unpopular opinion" around these parts. Just trying to get an idea of what you all would think about that.

If Obama needed space related technology I doubt he would have gone with Soros-ass. And if Musk wasn't the DOGE czar his contracts with the gov't/military wouldn't be in question. Why didn't you pose this question in 2023? https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoni...orce-defense-contract-worth-up-to-70-million/

 

[OccamsRazor]

Why didn't you pose this question in 2023?

Do I really need to answer this?

Was Musk running a Government advisory department in 2023? Was Biden acting on the words and making changes to the USG in 2023?

 

[Kyle]

Theres a huge difference between Musk that that evil, anti-American ####bag Soros.

 

[SamSpade]

Just throwing this out there for consideration.....

If Obama had brought in George Soros in a capacity to be the head of an auditing department as his consultant... and was given military contracts to benefit from... would you all be OK with that?

And yes, I already know this is very "unpopular opinion" around these parts. Just trying to get an idea of what you all would think about that.

Well I do get you on a related issue - if the DEMS were in charge of cutting costs and saving money, yeah, I'd be suspicious and watching them like a hawk also.

Because I remember the LAST time they did it. I think most of us are old enough to remember "Reinventing Government". IIRC, most of their "cuts" were of course, to the Defense Department, because they were seriously anxious to spend that much vaunted "peace dividend" - the idea that now that the Cold War was OVER, we didn't need to spend as much on defense.

From what ELSE I can recall, yes they made cuts - but they also repurposed the saving to do what Democrats always do - spend it on something ELSE. My Dad worked for the Navy back then - he told me it took years to recover from all the slash and burn they did.

But, but, but Sam - he - he balanced the budget, right? Well that IS another discussion, but one, the shutdown back then was because Clinton REFUSED to commit to balancing the budget. And he was also the beneficiary of a lot of things that he didn't do - the rise of the Internet and the prosperous economy of the 90's. THAT, plus having a Republican Congress for the first time in 40 years, determined to balance the budget is how we got there.

"Reinventing Government" didn't do it.

So - yeah. Mostly agree - I wouldn't be cool with the Democrats doing what DOGE is doing, and going around claiming why is the other party against saving money and cutting waste? But for one thing - they DID do it before.

 

[SamSpade]

Theres a huge difference between Musk that that evil, anti-American ####bag Soros.

Can't argue that. I've yet to hear anything redeeming about Soros.

 

[limblips]

Do I really need to answer this?

Was Musk running a Government advisory department in 2023? Was Biden acting on the words and making changes to the USG in 2023?

The three D's of the left: Deny, Deflect and Dodge.

 

[OccamsRazor]

So - yeah. Mostly agree - I wouldn't be cool with the Democrats doing what DOGE is doing, and going around claiming why is the other party against saving money and cutting waste? But for one thing - they DID do it before.

My main issue is the optics of the situation.
Can you honestly say it looks good that Musk is running DOGE and having a direct line to the President meanwhile.. still receiving government contracts and benefitting from the relationship?
Parallel would be the example I provided above. Would you be happy with it? Or, would you be upset about it simply because it would be Democrats doing it?

 

[OccamsRazor]

The three D's of the left: Deny, Deflect and Dodge.

The one (and same) answer on SOMD forum when confronted by facts: Call them a Leftist/Democrat.

 

[Ken King]

Just throwing this out there for consideration.....

If Obama had brought in George Soros in a capacity to be the head of an auditing department as his consultant... and was given military contracts to benefit from... would you all be OK with that?

And yes, I already know this is very "unpopular opinion" around these parts. Just trying to get an idea of what you all would think about that.

Why focus on something that Soros is entirely incapable of accomplishing? He isn't about creating anything of use, he is about destroying. Look at what he did to a big chunk of the criminal justice system by installing his non-prosecutorial DAs. How did that work out for the people in those jurisdictions?

 

[Ken King]

The one (and same) answer on SOMD forum when confronted by facts: Call them a Leftist/Democrat.

What facts? You asked a hypothetical question that isn't based on facts as Soros has never done anything that helps anyone, except low-life criminals.

 

[Kyle]

Why focus on something that Soros is entirely incapable of accomplishing? He isn't about creating anything of use, he is about destroying. Look at what he did to a big chunk of the criminal justice system by installing his non-prosecutorial DAs. How did that work out for the people in those jurisdictions?

not just America either.

He did what he could to destroy the Brits in the 90s.

 

[limblips]

My main issue is the optics of the situation.
Can you honestly say it looks good that Musk is running DOGE and having a direct line to the President meanwhile.. still receiving government contracts and benefitting from the relationship?
Parallel would be the example I provided above. Would you be happy with it? Or, would you be upset about it simply because it would be Democrats doing it?

So optics is your concern now? How about the optics of the four years of a senile, doddering, AWOL president and a government being led by a cabal of unelected people? I personally don't care about who is targeting waste, fraud, and abuse as long as somebody is! Every administration and Congress have bloviated about it but done nothing. I would celebrate and support the actions if it were Hitler himself doing it. Oh wait, according to the left he is.

 

[OccamsRazor]

What facts? You asked a hypothetical question that isn't based on facts as Soros has never done anything that helps anyone, except low-life criminals.

JFC... the inability to focus and comment on the point of the question and only fixate on George Soros is mind boggling!

Ok... let me possibly make it as simple as I can for those reading.

Would you all be OK if Obama brought in Oprah Winfrey to head a department where she would have the power to make cuts and changes to many facets of Government MENAWHILE, Harpo Entertainment has several contacts with the US Government and Obama was making commercials to promote OWN?

 

[SamSpade]

My main issue is the optics of the situation.
Can you honestly say it looks good that Musk is running DOGE and having a direct line to the President meanwhile.. still receiving government contracts and benefitting from the relationship?
Parallel would be the example I provided above. Would you be happy with it? Or, would you be upset about it simply because it would be Democrats doing it?

Can't see a quid pro quo, though. He's already got all of that - I haven't seen anything linking to an increase in contracts or profit because of it. Optics notwithstanding, I'm concerned only when it's clear there's an obvious conflict of interest AND criminal wrongdoing. I don't think anyone in the country is being scrutinized more closely than Musk.

Secondly, if it were Democrats and the like doing that - and it was BLATANT - nothing would come of it. I might object, but nothing would happen. We're seeing daily the money machine for the Bidens and other Democrats that they turned our government into - and no one is going to jail.

FWIW - Elon is at least, not being paid for his advisory position, and has no authority other than to advise others on his findings. He has no ability to do anything. For all the bluster about an "unelected" person intervening in national affairs, we have over 600 judges more or less doing the same thing, and while appointed by various Presidents - none of them were elected either.

That - and thus far, all of the decisions DOGE is making - whether you like it or not -is above board and published on the web.

POLITICIANS fuss about optics - there's still a mob of people who think a businessman like Trump is just using the White House to feather his own nest, and in his last administration, he took special care to - not take a salary and donate it, and insulate himself from his own business dealings.

 

[Ken King]

JFC... the inability to focus and comment on the point of the question and only fixate on George Soros is mind boggling!

Ok... let me possibly make it as simple as I can for those reading.

Would you all be OK if Obama brought in Oprah Winfrey to head a department where she would have the power to make cuts and changes to many facets of Government MENAWHILE, Harpo Entertainment has several contacts with the US Government and Obama was making commercials to promote OWN?

Hey Dumbphuck, it was your question and whom you chose to make the comparison with, not me. Move the goalposts all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you just want to stir the pot and not actually discuss anything, I'm guessing someone lit your tampon string on fire.

 

[SamSpade]

JFC... the inability to focus and comment on the point of the question and only fixate on George Soros is mind boggling!

Ok... let me possibly make it as simple as I can for those reading.

Would you all be OK if Obama brought in Oprah Winfrey to head a department where she would have the power to make cuts and changes to many facets of Government MENAWHILE, Harpo Entertainment has several contacts with the US Government and Obama was making commercials to promote OWN?

Well running DOGE sure isn't helping TESLA. And while Trump isn't promoting Tesla, the Democrats and their friends in the media are helping to incite the violence.

IF Oprah saw an uptick in contracts and profit from heretofore non-existent government contracts - I'd be suspicious.
Musk runs a space company - canceling those contracts ENDS it. AND it would result in other groups hostile to the U.S. taking up the slack.

I'm good with watching it all very carefully. If they're found doing something like that - I'd be first in line to boot them. I don't like anyone stealing my money, and it doesn't matter which side of the aisle they hail from.

Again, FWIW - Elon has enunciated his rationale for doing what he is doing - like Dems who believe focusing on climate change will save the world, he believes that stopping the country from utter bankruptcy will do the same thing. He's said that clearly - if the U.S. goes under, the world will also.