Yeah, that too.
LETS CANCEL SPACEX's CONTRACTS!!!!
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Oh that's right.
Won't Einstein and Hawking feel stupid if the stoners had the answer all along?
Nah, when you die they move you to another atom, so they won't know.Won't Einstein and Hawking feel stupid if the stoners had the answer all along?
PeoplesElbow
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So if they did something you don't agree with would you just keep quiet?
PeoplesElbow
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We are on a giant cat's collar.
OccamsRazor
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YUGE presumption there...
glhs837
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Again, you seem concerned that the possibility is there. And I agree, it should be watched. Not because I think he will self deal, but because it needs to be easily provable that he didn't. Which is why I asked about the FCC rural broadband issue. Everyone that follows the issue knows damn well that the FCC used old data as they admitted itand refused to even consider newer data when the decision was appealed. Is fixing that self dealing?
Who else could do this job, however?
OccamsRazor
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When it comes to the highest political office in the land, perception IS reality. I don't like palms getting greased just like everyone else. I do think the job of rooting out wasteful spending is essential BUT, regardless of political affiliation... putting someone in the position of finding that waste and offering solutions/decisions to the President SHOULD NOT be the same person/people that hold a financial stake with said Government. AT...ALL.
As for who else could do the job.... Which one? If it is the Space job, it is Elon 100%. If it is the DOGE job... literally ANYONE who does not have a financial stake in the decision making process AND can deal with the numbers. Someone completely independent.
And whom would that be? Doesn't every citizen have a financial stake as to the spending of our tax dollars?
glhs837
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It cannot be just anyone, to put it in old mob terms anyone can get got. Which is why DC is such a morass of self dealing and corruption. You literally need someone who cant be intimidated or bribed or socially pressured. They will come for you, your family and friends to protect their grift. The number of people with the wealth to ignore all of that and lack of pressure points is really pretty small. Which is why they are attacking Tesla like it just pulled off a second Pearl Harbor. Its literally the only venue you can come at him from.
I think its been quite clear, he finds and advises. He doesn't make the final calls. I hear all the "He's firing the people overseeing this, or that!!!!!" Especially the organizations charged with investigating his companies. What's been quite clear to fact based observers for some time now it that these orgs were practicing investigatory lawfare for the most part.
If three probies at NHTSA were canned, the odds are pretty high they were not on the verge of proving FSD is actually murder software. Same for the NLRB, or the CPSC.
CPUSA
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Well, since you haven't offered up ANYONE...
It looks like Elon is the only choice, because so far, he's the only one who has shown he can gut a powerful company's (Twitter) waste & weed out it's Unamerican Activities and rebuild that company into something more trustworthy...and profitable....
Unless you know someone who might be a better choice?...Maybe Soros?...or Harpo?
OccamsRazor
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You are correct however, not every person has the potential to benefit to the tune of MILLIONS or BILLIONS of dollars.And whom would that be? Doesn't every citizen have a financial stake as to the spending of our tax dollars?
Is the solution easy? Nope. Is anything going to change? Likely NOT. But, that doesn't mean it looks good either.
I've disagreed with things Trump has done right on here. But I don't disagree with what Dembots disagree with, so I guess that doesn't count.
With regard to DOGE, I've seen something and been like, wait, how's that going to work? So I look it up, get more information, and see how it will work, which is almost always the exact opposite of what the blatherbots in the leftwing media are saying.
Abolishing the DoE, for example. Kind of like "abolish the IRS and replace it with nothing". How's that going to work? Then I find they're not really "abolishing" the DoE, they're streamlining it and removing its bureaucratic power block and curriculum authority. Education nuts and bolts will go back to the states where they belong, but federal funding for legitimate education programs will remain the same. So I'm satisfied.
Any rational person paying even a tiny bit of attention knows that the federal DoE has been a colossal failure. Jimmy Carter created it in 1979 to address failing student education in at-risk areas. Since then those at-risk areas are even MORE at risk, and education scores have been dropping like a rock. So clearly the DoE isn't doing what it was created to do, so time to put it out to pasture.
That seems very simple to me: eliminate costly programs that aren't working.
That's really all Musk is doing - eliminating costly programs that have no benefit to We the People who are paying for it. Simple stuff. So simple even a Democrat should be able to understand it, and they would except there's this barrage of Leftist influencers and political hacks screaming propaganda at them 24/7. I haven't heard one single Democrat politician tell the bots to stop torching Tesla dealerships, but I've heard plenty of them encouraging it. That should tell us all we need to know.
OccamsRazor
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If I knew the answer to our country's issues and knew the exact correct measures to take, I would be doing it instead of arguing with internet strangers... just like you are.
All I know is what I know as a citizen and voter with critical thinking skills. It doesn't look good when someone with that much power of suggestion to the President can be in a position to profit.
Except you seem to be glossing over that Musk and his personal endeavors would more than likely benefit at a greater level then if he wasn't involved at all.
And looking good is nothing more then a subjective point of view and may not be objectively factual. Occam's Razor may not be the correct answer only the simplest.
And whom would that be? Doesn't every citizen have a financial stake as to the spending of our tax dollars?
He just wants it to be someone on his team instead of working for Trump. He was okay with unelected shadowbots blatantly stealing our money when it was under Obama and Biden. Now Musk, under Trump, is fixing it and he wants to blow a gasket.
If it were literally Oprah in charge and playing kissyface with Kamala Harris he'd be stanning like a bitch.
They said that about Trump, too. "Oh, Trump is getting rich being President!!" No, dumbass, Trump actually LOST money being President. Freaking Obama got rich being President, and Biden's whole freaking family got rich off his political office, but they don't want to bitch about that - they just want to bitch about the guy who lost money and didn't take a salary.
Trying to have discussions with ignorant brainwashed cultists is an exercise in futility.
They really do live in an alternate reality.They said that about Trump, too. "Oh, Trump is getting rich being President!!" No, dumbass, Trump actually LOST money being President. Freaking Obama got rich being President, and Biden's whole freaking family got rich off his political office, but they don't want to bitch about that - they just want to bitch about the guy who lost money and didn't take a salary.
Trying to have discussions with ignorant brainwashed cultists is an exercise in futility.
